Indian man attacked and burned alive in Australia

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Graustein

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This is disgusting. Racially motivated or not (I'm not even going to hazard a guess), it's disgusting.
 

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Skarin said:
Pandairon said:
It's weird. I didn't know Australia had a history of racism towards Indians.
Way to stereotype a whole country.

I don't think anyone (besides those coducting these acts) know why it's happening but I could hazard a guess. First thing is people have to clarify if this was a racially motivated crime or if it's a just a coincidence that the media is claiming a racist attack by association.

For all intents and purposes it could be little of A and a massive amount of B.

The Indian guy murdered was out of the 53 previous murders in Melbourne, the only Indian.

It could very well be that most of the assaults have occurred in areas where the chances of it happening to anyone is higher than normal. The students (international students at that) don't usually have the money to live in better areas, so they live where they can afford. Some of these areas are, to be totally fair, not a place I'd like to live. Mostly they've been robbed for money etc by people who are mostly out of it or looking for money to buy drugs and mostly late late at night.

Lots of the Indian students work graveyard shifts at 711s etc, live in shitty areas (this is based on observation when I was in Melbourne). Therefore the odds are higher than the average bear for something bad to happen. You call all the recipes for a mugging/assault to occur.

That's not to say there aren't racists in Australia, beyond any doubt they have their share of dickheads but is it a purely racially charged crime?. Maybe not.
This man speaks sense!.
 

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I wonder the reason behind the racism in this case?
If it is racially motivated.
And if both attacks were not just coincidences.
It would appear that these crimes weren't racist attacks. Both of thses victims were ALONE at night in areas where you shouldn't be. I doubt that they were killed because they were Indian.
 

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From the last few attacks I heard (not including this one) the attacks were committed by Serbian and Lebanese gangs.
 

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Demented Teddy said:
I wonder the reason behind the racism in this case?
If it is racially motivated.
And if both attacks were not just coincidences.
You don't set somebody on fire to teach them a lesson. Of course it was a racially-motivated attack.
Even if they were coincidences, somebody appears to be killing Indian men horrifically.
 

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What...the...fuck?

Who the fucking craphell would do that to someone? I mean...fuck the what hell, what.

That's just fucked up.

[sub]What is this I don't even[/sub]

I really don't know if it's directly a racist thing, or just targets of opportunity. It ain't doing too good for Australia's foreign reputation, though.
 
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When I first saw this I was like "holy shit, no way" but then I saw that it happened in Melbourne and all my surprise was taken away.

Those Victorians are crazy.
 

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I'm not saying these crimes aren't racially motivated, (similarly I'm not saying they are).

But what I do know, is that as racially stereotyping as it is, there are a lot of indians in Melbourne who are taking taxi jobs, crappy retail jobs in convenience stores and similar occupations which a lot of others simply wouldn't do. What this leads to is a larger amount of indiands getting assaulted than Australians.

Whether this holds true or not to these stories is another question.

What is true is that indian press do like to demonise Aussies, and as retarded as I may sound, I do believe it stems somewhat from the cricket.

Also, an Australian woman last year went to India -her dream holiday- for the first time ever, less than an hour off the flight, she had been raped and killed by Indians.

Did it have anything to do with inherent racism in India's culture? Hell no, it was some assholes who comprise of the extreme minority of the country, and morso it probably had nothing to do with her race. And yet a murder happens in Australia and it is considered a show of inherent racism in society.

Bernzz said:
What...the...fuck?

Who the fucking craphell would do that to someone? I mean...fuck the what hell, what.

That's just fucked up.

[sub]What is this I don't even[/sub]

I really don't know if it's directly a racist thing, or just targets of opportunity. It ain't doing too good for Australia's foreign reputation, though.
Which it shouldn't matter really. I mean what country doesn't have violent attacks, every day, all the time?

Perhaps lichtenstein? But they don't really count.

Also setting someone alight isn't exactly uncommon in the world. It happens more than you might think.
 

Pegghead

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Well we aren't all that bad just so you know. Personally I hate racists, I think they're as bad as Mexicans satan himself.
 

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Demented Teddy said:
Keepitclean said:
Demented Teddy said:
I wonder the reason behind the racism in this case?
If it is racially motivated.
And if both attacks were not just coincidences.
It would appear that these crimes weren't racist attacks. Both of thses victims were ALONE at night in areas where you shouldn't be. I doubt that they were killed because they were Indian.
I never said it was racially motivated.
Never said you did, I just thought quoting your post would make my point clearer.
 

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Bernzz said:
What...the...fuck?

Who the fucking craphell would do that to someone? I mean...fuck the what hell, what.

That's just fucked up.

[sub]What is this I don't even[/sub]

I really don't know if it's directly a racist thing, or just targets of opportunity. It ain't doing too good for Australia's foreign reputation, though.
Well, that certainly illustrates the diversity of the word!.

I do however agree with you what are saying..in essence.
 

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I think the fact that an act of racism in Australia has gained this much attention only highlights how much of an infrequent occurrence it is compared to other places. At least it still makes the news here, like fatal car crashes. None are nice, but they do show that we still consider them to be tragedies. Not that Australia hasn't had it's share of Xenophobia, mind you.
 

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Hopefully India will invade Australia, and capture their attorney general, and violently torture him. Then feed him to Tigers.
 

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that's awful. what makes people do something like that? whether it was racially motivated or not, it's still frighting that people can do something like that.
 

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Skarin said:
Lots of the Indian students work graveyard shifts at 711s etc, live in shitty areas (this is based on observation when I was in Melbourne). Therefore the odds are higher than the average bear for something bad to happen. You call all the recipes for a mugging/assault to occur.

That's not to say there aren't racists in Australia, beyond any doubt they have their share of dickheads but is it a purely racially charged crime?. Maybe not.
Well, being doused in a flammable liquid and then set on fire doesn't, as far as I know, follow the standard modus operandi of muggings. In this particular case, with such a horrible attack, I think racist motives are more than likely.

I think the question isn't, "was it racially motivated?" rather "is this a part of a wider pattern?"

In Denmark we had an attack on a 16-year old Turkish paper-boy by a small group of whites. They killed him with a bat to the head without any motive other than race. Witnesses heard them say racist things to this poor kid when he was bleeding out on the street. This was a horrible case and the police tried to rule out a racial motivation at first, but on a wider scale, the case didn't concern me because, in spite of the rampant racism in Denmark, these violent acts doesn't occur very often.

So, to sum up my wall of text, of course one should be horrified by this but see it in a larger perspective: is this a common occurrence?