Infinity Ward doesn't think Modern Warfare 2 can be beat

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Spitfire175

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LunaticFringe said:
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wow, IW's head is pretty damn far up its ass for a company that couldn't release DLC that functioned on release day.
Not to mention one that just had their lead designers removed, effectively chopping off their head.
What do they care? They have money and stuff? /sarcasm.
 

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Probably will hold true for this year. But given the choice, I'd rather play WoW again. That's right, I'll revel in the hypocrisy as I get over that level 20 hump.
 

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Noogai said:
This is why I hate Infinity Ward, they are a bunch of cocky bastards.
WAAAGH! Of course they are. They're not gonna be like "oh yeah, Battlefield is better, everyone should just start playing that instead". I guarantee that if the Battlefield devs were asked the same question, they'd respond by saying that they think Battlefield is the best. And then everyone would be in here going "they're right, better than that CoD crap, herpderp".

I hate it when people who are fans of a game get accused of being fanboys or drones when the accusers don't realise that's exactly what they're being too.
 

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Gabanuka said:
Cocky much, I find BfBC2 way more fun.
pulled the words right out....... and im going to laugh if halo reach or even deadrising 2 beats it by a mile in multiplayer.
 

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man MW2 isn't that good! it's the same graphic as COD5 and 4, not very different weapons, and just because it's MW doesn't mean it's great multiplayer. oh, and i have played the game. not just trashtalking.
 

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Wow, I've never read anything more self righteous than that, not a single ounce of self awareness either and that's all the 12 year old boys fault, yes i went there.
But really. I never got modern warfare 2 because it's just a *****-slap to "real" gamers (and by that i mean people who are more analytic and care about their experience), unfortunately, not enough people oversaw the fact that the dedicated server issue was a giant problem and just thought to them selves; "I am a console gamer, so why should i care?"
And also the fact that Modern Warfare on Pc is more like the console versions than any other Cod game ever.

What happened to opportunity's to make stuff like this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aphtbAi-wOs&translated=1]?
 

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MasterMongoose0 said:
Halo Reach will dethrone it, at least temporarily.

BFBC 2 is a far superior game as well, but I know there's no chance of it surpassing MW2.
Not trying to question the popularity of Halo, but it's only coming out on 360 right?

So i doubt it'll battle a game that was extremely popular on 360 as well as PS3 and PC, when it comes to number of players or costumers.

I got MW2 and i just got BFBC2 in with the mail today, so hopefulyl BFBC2 is better (havent' had tiem to install it yet, had to go to work)
 

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Brian Hendershot said:
In all honesty I hope it stays the "best FPS around" so it will divert all the 12 year olds away from games like Bad Company that require some amount of thinking other then hacking>Sniper rifle>knifing>shotguns>rocket launchers> guns mentality that people who play MW2 have developed.


Id rather those type of people stay out of my games.
You say this implying Bad Company 2 multiplayer isn't a team of 8 snipers with the remaining 8 guys as an engineer using the Carl Gustav.

I still love the game.
 

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I'll take Bad Company 2 over MW2, it's definitely more balanced, more fun, and more... well I suppose it's more realistic, I mean they both have that issue where you can empty a clip into someone and they don't die, but it seems they're more likely to die in Bad Company 2.
 

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I bet back in the day there was another game at the top of all others sales wise, that was beat, and so the cycle shall continue until the next big thing comes.
 

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Journeythroughhell said:
Let me put it this way - Modern Warfare 2 in singleplayer is a thrill
Really? 'cause from start to finish I was bored out of my fucking skull.


Journeythroughhell said:
a blockbuster
This sounds familiar...



Journeythroughhell said:
a triumph of storytelling (not story in itself, but rather the set-pieces)

Now I realized why your comment felt so familiar. Every single person claiming Transformers 2 was "amazing" based their entire argument around these things. "It's a thrill to watch" or "amazing set pieces d00d!".

Here's a list of what's wrong with Revenge of the Fallen:

- incoherent and predictable plot;
- boring plot;
- bad acting;
- stupid shit happening;
- unlikeable and boring characters;

Here's a list of what's wrong with Modern Warfare 2's Single Player campaign:

- Incoherent, predictable and boring plot filled with holes (http://www.gamesradar.com/f/modern-warfare-2s-glaring-plot-holes-exposed/a-20091120123332495077)
- Stupid shit happening(Like for e.g. Russian jets getting into the USA undetected or Price in a gulag)
- unlikeable and boring characters. Not once did I find myself carrying for my teammates;


And to top all of the above up the campaign lasts 4 hours.


Journeythroughhell said:
Modern Warfare 2 delivers in multiplayer
There are A LOT of problems with the multiplayer at the moment ranging from overpowered weapons and air support to glitches and lag. I can hardly see any redeeming factors about the multiplayer.
 

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digitaLbraVo said:
Brian Hendershot said:
In all honesty I hope it stays the "best FPS around" so it will divert all the 12 year olds away from games like Bad Company that require some amount of thinking other then hacking>Sniper rifle>knifing>shotguns>rocket launchers> guns mentality that people who play MW2 have developed.


Id rather those type of people stay out of my games.
You say this implying Bad Company 2 multiplayer isn't a team of 8 snipers with the remaining 8 guys as an engineer using the Carl Gustav.

I still love the game.
Yeah I mean there are those times when there is a straight team of medics coming at you but in smaller games like squad deathmatch/rush it requires strategy. Or at least a little bit more then MW2, or at least it seems so to me.

EDIT: I just feel that Bad Company rewards any modicum of teamwork (i.e. spotting enemies).
Of course I may just like the game cause no more twelve year olds screaming in my ear or trying to rap.
 

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FelixFox. said:
Brian Hendershot said:
In all honesty I hope it stays the "best FPS around" so it will divert all the 12 year olds away from games like Bad Company that require some amount of thinking other then hacking>Sniper rifle>knifing>shotguns>rocket launchers> guns mentality that people who play MW2 have developed.
So what makes Bad Company 2 more complicated?

To me the two games seem almost interchangeable except that Bad Company lets you drive vehicles and lets more things explode.

Also "hacking>Sniper rifle>knifing>shotguns>rocket launchers> guns"? Really?
Isn't Bad Company 2 also a shooter? Surely it also has guns.
Of course Bad Company has guns. I am just saying in MW2 there are people that win because they care package glitch ect. Or those that make running classes with just knifes ( I mean it is called Modern Warfare). I mean yeah all those things have are pretty bamf irl but there are not people running around with just rocket launchers and and sniper rifles winning battles.

I dunno, I just feel like Bad Company takes away some of the over poweredness of some weapons. I mean vehicles really do not change the battlefield that much to me.
 

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Journeythroughhell said:
Thanks a lot for your well-rounded argument. As a fan of MW2 and someone who doesn't like being called an "idiot", I would love to refute your argument.
First of all, I believe that both Battlefield 2 and Bad Company 2 are superior in terms of multiplayer simply because I like team-based games more.
With that said, what makes a good game? Well, I'm going to assume that good gameplay does. And here's our first problem - Modern Warfare 2 delivers both in singleplayer and in multiplayer, and also in coop, Bad Company 2 is only good online.
And that would be fine, if they didn't set up a group of very likeable characters and a decent story in the first one.
Let me put it this way - Modern Warfare 2 in singleplayer is a thrill, a blockbuster, a triumph of storytelling (not story in itself, but rather the set-pieces).
Bad Company 2 in single is a frustrating, incoherent mess.
MW2 doesn't deliver gameplay online or offline. CoD4 delivered a quality singleplayer experience, and a boring online one (though I can see why some people enjoyed it).

MW2 didn't build on any of the good aspects, and instead threw in tonnes of gimmicks and an absolutely awful campaign. There was no suspense, thrill or even interest in MW2's campaign-What they didn't rehash from the first Modern Warfare, they took straight out of a cheesy B-Movie. Top that off with a linear, tiresome plot (that doesn't even try to make sense), and you have MW2's campaign in a nutshell.

The multiplayer was drastically worse than CoD4s, throwing in so many glitches, badly designed maps and clearly untested perk combinations, it just becomes rock-paper-scissors, except that the scissors run around the map like a cheetah on crack with an invincible riot shield, and the rock sits across the map shooting through walls before dropping a care package. Everything MW2 did, CoD4 did better, and I didn't really like the first one to begin with. CoD4 had tension, dramatic set pieces, and some good action, whereas MW2 simply (poorly) rehashed the scenes and threw in an arbitrary plot.

As for BC2's campaign, while it was almost as linear, it was bearable due to the humour. It didn't take itself too seriously. It wasn't as funny or open as the first, but it did improve on quality of content. Still, I find it hard to believe anyone buys a Battlefield game for the single-player, since DICE isn't exactly known for including them.
 

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Veldt Falsetto said:
While I completely agree with what you're saying. It's spelt definitely
Oh crap. Yet another time. Well excuse me, English is not my first language.