Inside the Sick Mind of a School Shooter Mod

[KILGAZOR]

Am i the only one who really isn't even at all offended?

Nope.

I mean, I wouldn't play it, and I don't even want to watch the trailer because I'm pretty sure it would make me sick, but then again I don't watch gay porn either. But there's nothing wrong with people who watch gay porn. It's just not my thing, and neither is this mod.

I'm actually glad mods like these are being made. If anyone wanted to shoot up a school in real life, they could first play this mod, and probably vent their frustrations out through playing the mod, and maybe not actually kill in real life anyone then, and if you're the type of person who enjoys killing masses of innocents, I say go wild with this mod as long as you don't take your rage out on people in real life.

Bottom line is, there's no good reason for this game NOT to be made, and if someone wants to make it, there's no reason to stop him.

If it offends you, just don't play it, but don't ***** about the fact that it exists. Pretend that you got off on, say, crushing the skulls of small virtual bunnies, and you wanted to make a mod about it. Would you really want people trying to stop you?

I'm also kind of upset on the title the article. Who are you to say that he's "sick"? Last time I checked, Escapist columnists were gamers, not psychologists.

 

[Retardinator]

Most people will say it's disgusting and whatnot. So what does that mean? Mowing down hundreds of innocent civilians, cops and SWATs on an airport in MW2 is edgy, but mowing down pretty much the same three groups of people in a mod is unacceptable?

When you strip it down to bare essentials, it's the same fucking thing, which nobody should really get so aroused about, considering it's been done already 2 years ago.

 

[MolotoK]

There was a similar outcry about a multiplayer Source mod called "1378 km".
It's about the inner German border in the 70s and 80s, with watchtowers, barbed wire, concrete walls, antipersonnel mines and Kalashnikov armed guards.

The designer's goal was not to shock people, but to educate people and give people the opportunity to experience both the situation of the border guards, who were ordered to shoot at their fellow citizens, and the refugees, who weren't allowed to leave their own country.

Quite a good game.

 

[Weaver]

Am i the only one who really isn't even at all offended?

Nope.

I mean, I wouldn't play it, and I don't even want to watch the trailer because I'm pretty sure it would make me sick, but then again I don't watch gay porn either. But there's nothing wrong with people who watch gay porn. It's just not my thing, and neither is this mod.

I'm actually glad mods like these are being made. If anyone wanted to shoot up a school in real life, they could first play this mod, and probably vent their frustrations out through playing the mod, and maybe not actually kill in real life anyone then.

And if you're the type of person who enjoys killing masses of innocents, I say go wild with this mod as long as you don't take your rage out on people in real life.

Bottom line is, there's no good reason for this game NOT to be made, and if someone wants to make it, there's no reason to stop him.

If it offends you, just don't play it, but don't ***** about the fact that it exists. Pretend that you got off on, say, crushing the skulls of small virtual bunnies, and you wanted to make a mod about it. Would you really want people trying to stop you?

Honestly, if you watch the trailer you probably wouldn't think it's a school if it didn't have the "SCHOOL SHOOTER" logo on the bottom left of it. The game is basically taking the classic arcade survival mode idea. The first "wave" is a practice wave of unarmed "students" which are just the rebels from HL2. Then the combine storm in after you beat the practice wave 1 and they get harder and harder until you die.

 

[mikespoff]

"...my ideas stemmed from the fact that nobody has ever tried to create a proper game about a school shooting."

Umm... maybe that's because it's a fucking terrible idea?

There also isn't a proper game where you kidnap a 10-year old girl and keep her locked up in your cabin in the woods, earning points for how terrified and miserable you make her.

Because that would also be a fucking terrible idea!

 

[Belated]

Why make such a game? Because you can. And because you should be able to. Every now and then, you need to flex your rights and stretch them as far as they will go. It's the same reason people should burn their own flags once in a while: To remind people that you have a right to do so, and that ALL free speech is important, even if that speech is something we disagree with. And this game is only a big deal if you MAKE it a big deal. The most rational position you can take is, "It's just a game where you play a villain. So what? Just deal with it. It's not like anybody is making you play it."

This guy could also very well be trolling. He might be making the game just to see how people react. And the more angry you get, the more successful he is. If you outright BAN the game, that's like giving him a gold trophy.

 

[WildSeraph]

Honestly, if you watch the trailer you probably wouldn't think it's a school if it didn't have the "SCHOOL SHOOTER" logo on the bottom left of it. The game is basically taking the classic arcade survival mode idea. The first "wave" is a practice wave of unarmed "students" which are just the rebels from HL2. Then the combine storm in after you beat the practice wave 1 and they get harder and harder until you die.

Yeah, it was really more of an office setting or training facility or something. Maybe that's my biggest problem with the game. I was expecting them to look more like terrified high-schoolers, not emotionless clones. I'm still rooting for my anime high school shooting sim! Unrealism and mass murder rolled into one big ball of violent goodness! And it's probably a lot less offensive to kill cel-shaded schoolgirls than 'realistic' high-school students.

I don't know if anyone's pointed this out yet, by god someone must have and I'm just beating a dead horse, but this sentence needs "its" without the apostrophe.

I was going to point it out, but I usually get called some variation of 'fag' when I do. Thank you for having a pair and letting the good people know how to use proper English.

 

[KILGAZOR]

"...my ideas stemmed from the fact that nobody has ever tried to create a proper game about a school shooting."

Umm... maybe that's because it's a fucking terrible idea?

There also isn't a proper game where you kidnap a 10-year old girl and keep her locked up in your cabin in the woods, earning points for how terrified and miserable you make her.

Because that would also be a fucking terrible idea!

I'm sure someone out there would beg to differ.

Am i the only one who really isn't even at all offended?

Nope.

I mean, I wouldn't play it, and I don't even want to watch the trailer because I'm pretty sure it would make me sick, but then again I don't watch gay porn either. But there's nothing wrong with people who watch gay porn. It's just not my thing, and neither is this mod.

I'm actually glad mods like these are being made. If anyone wanted to shoot up a school in real life, they could first play this mod, and probably vent their frustrations out through playing the mod, and maybe not actually kill in real life anyone then.

And if you're the type of person who enjoys killing masses of innocents, I say go wild with this mod as long as you don't take your rage out on people in real life.

Bottom line is, there's no good reason for this game NOT to be made, and if someone wants to make it, there's no reason to stop him.

If it offends you, just don't play it, but don't ***** about the fact that it exists. Pretend that you got off on, say, crushing the skulls of small virtual bunnies, and you wanted to make a mod about it. Would you really want people trying to stop you?

Honestly, if you watch the trailer you probably wouldn't think it's a school if it didn't have the "SCHOOL SHOOTER" logo on the bottom left of it. The game is basically taking the classic arcade survival mode idea. The first "wave" is a practice wave of unarmed "students" which are just the rebels from HL2. Then the combine storm in after you beat the practice wave 1 and they get harder and harder until you die.

Oh, so he's just a bad game designer. Okay, even less reason to play it now.

 

[conflictofinterests]

So THIS is where the "games are not art" road leads? Consider me a pretentious games-are-art fag then. (Note: Yes, I have actually been called this. I'm now officially proud of it.)

Well, there are plenty of crass and wrong-minded works of "art" too. Artistic representation wouldn't need to be afforded protection under the first amendment if it never included rude and offensive things. This might be one of those things the video game community, like various artistic communities before them will have to condone and ignore until, like an angry, angsty teenager's book of homocide pictures, it fades from history.

It would be stupid to legislate against it, because the people who follow legislation AREN'T the ones who are going to cause a problem. Except for Fox and those crazies who would like to ban everything even mildly offensive to themselves. They will be very fussy when this comes out, mostly because they cannot or will not be reasoned with.

 

[fnartilter]

It's humor is crude, it's writing is dumb, and it's gameplay is ultra-violent. (page 2, paragraph 11)

I don't know if anyone's pointed this out yet, by god someone must have and I'm just beating a dead horse, but this sentence needs "its" without the apostrophe.

Interesting read. He's got some good points, but it boils down to an argument with a flamethrower on thin ice.

 

[Weaver]

Am i the only one who really isn't even at all offended?

Nope.

I mean, I wouldn't play it, and I don't even want to watch the trailer because I'm pretty sure it would make me sick, but then again I don't watch gay porn either. But there's nothing wrong with people who watch gay porn. It's just not my thing, and neither is this mod.

I'm actually glad mods like these are being made. If anyone wanted to shoot up a school in real life, they could first play this mod, and probably vent their frustrations out through playing the mod, and maybe not actually kill in real life anyone then.

And if you're the type of person who enjoys killing masses of innocents, I say go wild with this mod as long as you don't take your rage out on people in real life.

Bottom line is, there's no good reason for this game NOT to be made, and if someone wants to make it, there's no reason to stop him.

If it offends you, just don't play it, but don't ***** about the fact that it exists. Pretend that you got off on, say, crushing the skulls of small virtual bunnies, and you wanted to make a mod about it. Would you really want people trying to stop you?

Honestly, if you watch the trailer you probably wouldn't think it's a school if it didn't have the "SCHOOL SHOOTER" logo on the bottom left of it. The game is basically taking the classic arcade survival mode idea. The first "wave" is a practice wave of unarmed "students" which are just the rebels from HL2. Then the combine storm in after you beat the practice wave 1 and they get harder and harder until you die.

Oh, so he's just a bad game designer. Okay, even less reason to play it now.

Yep, I really have no desire to play it. It looks pretty boring, really. I've seen way better mods come from the HL2 community.

 

[EGtodd09]

This guy has a point you know, shit like this is fun, but not doable in the real world, that's why its in a game. I personally play games like Call of Duty because it's fun being a super awesome, near invincible solider, free of all consequence on my real life, but that's obvious not possible outside of a video game, so I play the damn video game. I'm an escapist, literally, that means I escape my real life an take on the role of someone with no impact on anything in the real world and do things I know I can't do. My mind knows I can't do the things I do in video game in the real world, but some kids in my generation are just so fucking stupid. Games are there for fun we can't have in the real world, and it's just statistics that some children are very close to retarded, and reverse it, so they do things in real life reserved for video games, like killing innocents. These kids are just too goddamn stupid to live.

 

[perpetualburn]

I may disagree with him, but he was articulate and his thoughts were pretty interesting.

It has probably been said already, but just because he has the right to do something, doesn't mean he should...

There are so many aspects of video games to defend and so many bigger battles to pick. This one seems so trivial in comparison.

 

[Xan Krieger]

Can we please wait to play it before judging it? I'm gonna get Half-life 2 for the PC just for this mod. Why? I was playing Super Columbine Massacre today and it showed me something. If you've ever sat alone in a cafeteria, if you've ever been beaten up in school you can identify with bits of the shooters. Sitting alone, realizing everyone hates you, and wanting them to suffer is something that I remember about myself in High School. Naturally I didn't start blasting people, I started smoking instead. Still though you can see bits of yourself in the killers and you see how society can make people do irrational things.

I want this mod because I had a bad time in High School and it'll feel good to get rid of my anger in a way that doesn't hurt anyone in real life. I want to do it the same way I always deal with my anger, through a videogame.

 

[sinsfire]

This is just a sick, un-entertaining, plea for attention. I feel sorry for this guy. All he has succeeded in doing is dumbing down the debate and hiding it behind notions of art and free speech. This is a sad day for gaming.

 

[Elf Defiler Korgan]

So biased Mr Tito. You are going with the moral panic flow on this one.

It is just action, catharsis and slaughter. We have this in so many games across platform types. It plays into the hands of certain lobby groups, but we don't have to join their side ad agree with them. It is a chance to tell the rest of would-be censoring society to fuck off and leave us to our distractions. This now-hated mod could be quite fun, and aren't we all about games that entertain and are fun? I enjoyed fighting my way out of botched or noisy assassinations in hitman, why not fight your way into a school and try to survive as the heat comes down?

Mr Tito, if you are meant to be passing on the news about new games and mods, could you please be more objective and actually informative. I don't want to hear that you agree with some cause against a game. Thank you.

 

[TheDarkestDerp]

I will never play it, mods are not my thing.

But he made some very good points regarding the industry and users as a whole.

I like the bit about gamers being worse sensationalists than the media and pulling their epeen out the second someone disagrees with their opinions. He is dead on correct with this and the one reason why I am a member of so few online communities. If I dont know you personally, I dont really care about your opinion, but I wont tell you this on a forum as it is disrespectful and rude.

Agreed all the way. Great comment. *thumbs up*

Mods being mods, and people being people, I'm honestly surprised it took so long to see this happen. Beavis n Butthead shooting pop sulture icons, Barney the purple dinosaur being decapitated, Justin Bieber gunned down, I've seen FPS custom jobs of practically every other nuance of pop culture and news bytes being lampooned or outright insulted, why not school shootings? With the internet itself being allegorical to the tale of Gaiges' ring, and humanity's complete lack of compassion or empathy where it's unnecessary why this mod surprises or shocks anyone is a bit beyond me. If it's in good taste or not is up to the individual observer, but at the end of the day, questioning if it's "offensive" or "wrong" seems a bit laughable in my backyard.

What makes this such a big deal? In "GTA whatever", we do everything from take drugs, to beat elderly people to death for their pocket change to killing policemen in the street for entertainment. So it's obviously not purely the violence. In "Call of Duty AGAIN" we stain the memory of countless actual men and women who fought, suffered and died for their respective countries by badly trivializing the military conflicts they actually took part in. So it can't be the factual basis of subject matter. I don't see too much hooplah over either of these.

Because children -ahem- teenage children are somehow sacred?

Give me a break... *sighs* Call it juvenile, attention-seeking, trolling, whatever. It's just another game where you are a character and you're shooting people. Monsters, zombies, Nazis, American pop-stars, gang-bangers, school-age lay-abouts, it's all the same in the end, a work of fiction to unwind to and exorcise the stress-demons of your day on digitally rendered pressure valves. If you're feeling a bit awkward because for whatever reason you feel you can somehow relate to the characters you're shooting in the fictional digital world, then don't play it. Me? I'm a bit sick of "taboo" subjects and "touchy" subjects being off-limits to creative people in a country which often lauds itself for being the "home of the free" where we have "freedom" to do and say as we want that "other countries don't have". (if you need me to place the sarcastic emphasis in that sentence, sorry, I'm too tired right now)

 

[Deminobody]

The whole project and the way it's being presented seems like an elaborate troll attempt. He constantly contradicts himself and his moddb page seems to be as dedicated to the mod as it is to playing up the hostile reactions people are having to the mod. Frankly, the first game play video makes the game look like a completely half-assed bit of game design and programming. The video also makes it seem like the mod's "intended audience" would not even find it interesting for more than 5 minutes.

Personally, I think articles like this and responses like some of those in this thread are EXACTLY what the mod was intending to invoke. The mod is merely for attention's sake and needs to simply be forgotten.