Intolerance and Judgemental thinking - SO FUCKING ANNOYING

[Guttural Engagement]

It pisses me off to no end when someone of a different point of view is ignorant and judgmental towards you. Honestly, there's nothing worse than the frustration that comes from this.

For example, my mother somehow can't understand no matter how many times I tell her that Satanism has nothing to do with Devil Worship, or even the Christian idea of Satan. She constantly criticizes me for listening to metal, she's even tried to claim that it's not music - just because it's not "relaxing" or "happy" sounding like her fucking Gospel shit that she insists on playing 24/7 because it gives the house a 'Spiritual protection'.

Honestly, I can't stand people who judge something as negative/bad because: A. They're not used to it, or B. Because they don't like it.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Everyone does it, even you.

By the way... the 9 Satanic Statements:

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence.
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams.
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit.
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates.
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek.
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires.
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development", has become the most vicious animal of all.
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification.
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years.

True, it has nothing to do with 'Satan, the Defiler,' and is more of 'Satan, Fuck You,' I can still see how a mother might not like the concept. Also, if metal music turned you to this, you are one hell of a tool.

 

[KEM10]

Funny, cause Hebrew Satan is just one of God's angels that watches the world and gives a status report to God on how everyone is doing.

Then again, the Hebrew God is more human than Buddha half the time.

 

[Sougo]

Everyone does it, even you.

By the way... the 9 Satanic Statements:

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence.
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams.
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit.
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates.
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek.
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires.
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development", has become the most vicious animal of all.
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification.
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years.

True, it has nothing to do with 'Satan, the Defiler,' and is more of 'Satan, Fuck You,' I can still see how a mother might not like the concept. Also, if metal music turned you to this, you are one hell of a tool.

Thats at least 9 reasons why I agree with what you said.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Funny, cause Hebrew Satan is just one of God's angels that watches the world and gives a status report to God on how everyone is doing.

Then again, the Hebrew God is more human than Buddha half the time.

Its more accurate to describe 'Satan' as a sort of title. Basically, a Satan is just a douche bag that tempts humanity, try's to lead them astray, and challenges their beliefs in God, and when he succeeds, runs off to tattle to the big man.

Christians 'In the Know' often refer to such a being as 'The Tempter.'

 

[A Free Man]

Haha what a silly thing to be frustrated about. My best advice would be suck it up and get used to it. It doesn't matter what you believe in or who you are there will always be people who disagree with you and since most of those people will be arrogant and idiotic they will try to either change your mind or just criticize you as much as possible. I know this sounds a bit harsh but that is just the way the world works, you shouldn't care so much about what other people think. Just accept that they do not understand why you do what you do and will therefore never be acceptive of your way of life.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Spoiler

It depends what satanism you're buying into.

The translation for all forms of satanism is

"I'm an angsty mofoin teenager and I'm pretending to be a part of this absurd religion to shock you. Because I'm so edgy and different."

How much of a tool that makes you depends entierly on the particular brand you think is coolest.

Just so you know. Satanism isn't a real religion. If you're talking about the tripe Anton LaVey laid out in his 'satanic bible'. It's little more than postured musings on individuality.

It wouldn't surprise me that your mother would judge it based on it's name. Because if you're going to call it something like that. You're obviously looking for some kind of reaction from the people you tell.

If you actually want to live by 'the creeds' of individuality and indulgence. Here's a novel idea. Why not just be yourself.

Calling yourself a satanist is just a cheap way of getting a rise out of people.

And their you go. A voice of reason. This is probably exactly whats running through your mother's mind, she just doesn't articulate it as such because... well, she's your mother. She shouldn't have to.

 

[Funkysandwich]

I used to know a guy who was into metal and Satanism as a weak ploy to get women. It hasn't worked, but he's still trying. He's 21 and still acts like an immature brat who is used to getting his own way.

My advice to you: Suck it up, princess.

I hate people who can't accept that people are a bunch of disagreeable morons who always have and always will get into petty squabbles over really unimportant things.

 

[Azure Sky]

Everyone does it, even you.

By the way... the 9 Satanic Statements:

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence.
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams.
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit.
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates.
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek.
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires.
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development", has become the most vicious animal of all.
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification.
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years.

True, it has nothing to do with 'Satan, the Defiler,' and is more of 'Satan, Fuck You,' I can still see how a mother might not like the concept. Also, if metal music turned you to this, you are one hell of a tool.

I could have sworn there was one denouncing the stereotypical 'children/animal/blood/sacrifice' bs.

Not sure though, been quite some time since I have looked at said field.

Lets see if I can grab the attention of someone into this type of thing though...

 

[Baron_BJ]

I've read much into Satanism and I do agree with most of the basic ideas behind it (for example the 9 statements), however the fact is that it is a glorified cult that has religious status, technically to even be called a member you must pay the church something along the likes of $200USD.

However satanism also practices natural magicks (fuck I hate spelling it with a "k") for the sake of influencing others and the like, not to mention a loosely karmic related universal judgement system.

Do you believe what the system preaches or merely share the ideals? If the latter you're not a satanist.

 

[Stryc9]

I think the best part of threads like this is when the OP says they hate intolerance or whatever then they go on to make a statement that pretty much makes them a hypocrite.

It pisses me off to no end when someone of a different point of view is ignorant and judgmental towards you. Honestly, there's nothing worse than the frustration that comes from this.

For example, my mother somehow can't understand no matter how many times I tell her that Satanism has nothing to do with Devil Worship, or even the Christian idea of Satan. She constantly criticizes me for listening to metal, she's even tried to claim that it's not music - just because it's not "relaxing" or "happy" sounding like her fucking Gospel shit that she insists on playing 24/7 because it gives the house a 'Spiritual protection'.

Honestly, I can't stand people who judge something as negative/bad because: A. They're not used to it, or B. Because they don't like it.

If you were a truly tolerant person you wouldn't let such petty things bother you. Seriously, being criticized over your choices in music is hardly the worst thing to have to deal with. As far has her giving you shit for being a 'Satanist' if you knew your mother was as heavily into her religion as it sounds like she is you brought that on yourself by ever mentioning it to her.

 

[KarumaK]

Being intolerant and judgmental about being intolerant and judgmental - PRICELESS

 

[Azure Sky]

I could have sworn there was one denouncing the stereotypical 'children/animal/blood/sacrifice' bs.

Not sure though, been quite some time since I have looked at said field.

Lets see if I can grab the attention of someone into this type of thing though...

There is the 9 statments and the 11 rules.

They're probably in the 11 rules.

Really though. I thought LeVey's book just read like common sense dressed with fancy wording and mystical mumbo. It seems more like a gimmik to me than anything else.

He was certainly just using the name as a shock and awe title.

That sounds right, I knew it was there somewhere.

While it didn't really interest me when I read it originally, it was quite the interesting read.
Common sense and decency is something far too many people lack, it seems somewhat more present in larger groups though.

 

[Kortney]

It pisses me off to no end when someone of a different point of view is ignorant and judgmental towards you. Honestly, there's nothing worse than the frustration that comes from this.

For example, my mother somehow can't understand no matter how many times I tell her that Satanism has nothing to do with Devil Worship, or even the Christian idea of Satan. She constantly criticizes me for listening to metal, she's even tried to claim that it's not music - just because it's not "relaxing" or "happy" sounding like her fucking Gospel shit that she insists on playing 24/7 because it gives the house a 'Spiritual protection'.

Honestly, I can't stand people who judge something as negative/bad because: A. They're not used to it, or B. Because they don't like it.

Loose the teen angst.

It's going to happen in life. Things you do and things you like are going to be misunderstood and criticised. You should listen to your mother in some ways. Yeah, she sounds like a bit of a piece of work and would be very frustrating but she obviously loves you and she's your Mum. Does this mean you should stop listening to metal? No of course not - but do take some of the things she says on board and try to negotiate in a mature way instead of raging. I know that is easier said than done.

 

[BonsaiK]

It pisses me off to no end when someone of a different point of view is ignorant and judgmental towards you. Honestly, there's nothing worse than the frustration that comes from this.

For example, my mother somehow can't understand no matter how many times I tell her that Satanism has nothing to do with Devil Worship, or even the Christian idea of Satan. She constantly criticizes me for listening to metal, she's even tried to claim that it's not music - just because it's not "relaxing" or "happy" sounding like her fucking Gospel shit that she insists on playing 24/7 because it gives the house a 'Spiritual protection'.

Honestly, I can't stand people who judge something as negative/bad because: A. They're not used to it, or B. Because they don't like it.

You need to be more tolerant and less judgemental about intolerant judgemental thinkers.

I'm not even taking the piss. The way into their hearts is to show them how tolerance should be done, not to copy them while acting like their mirror image.

 

[Elle-Jai]

For example, my mother somehow can't understand no matter how many times I tell her that Satanism has nothing to do with Devil Worship, or even the Christian idea of Satan.

I feel your pain here. Mine thinks that Marilyn Manson sounds like he's throwing up, believes that me having a copy of the Satanic Bible in the house is inviting the presence of evil, and so forth. She doesn't listen to gospel music, but she is considering calling in a priest to "cleanse" our home.

It doesn't surprise me that your mother would judge it based on it's name. Because if you're going to call it something like that. You're obviously looking for some kind of reaction from the people you tell.

If you actually want to live by 'the creeds' of individuality and indulgence. Here's a novel idea. Why not just be yourself.

Calling yourself a satanist is just a cheap way of getting a rise out of people.

This [http://churchofsatan.com/Pages/BBWelcome.html] is from LaVey's consort, Blanche:

Spoiler: Introduction and Answer to Why call it Satanism?

"If you?re new to Satanism, or simply curious, perhaps a brief discussion of one of the most common questions might help you to better understand what this site is all about. Why call it Satanism?

Dr. LaVey has answered this question many times in his writings and in interviews but, apparently, it?s a tough concept for some people. It is usually accompanied by, ?You know, everything you say makes a lot of sense. But that name, ?Satan?, is a real turn-off for people. Why don?t you just call it ?Humanism? or something?you?d get a lot more followers.?

Of course, the first point is, we don?t need a lot of followers; we need more leaders in society in general and Satanism is a philosophy of leaders. That?s the glib answer. The more complete answer is that Satanists find more strength in images of defiance, fortitude against all odds and self-determination than we do in the image of the guy hanging on the Cross. We are sickened by the complacency, hypocrisy, prejudice, and self-righteousness that most conventional religions (including ?Wicca? and ?paganism? as they are currently defined) encourage in people. When my back is up against the wall, I?m not strengthened by Jesus? supposed martyrdom, or by the idea of praying and being saved, or of mooning over some glorious afterlife (so I don?t have to take responsibility for this one). Satanists? scorn for such drivel is in our hard-wiring, and we could no more ?give our lives over to Christ? than we could cut off one of our own limbs. The word ?Satan? is the first hurdle to understanding what we?re trying to get across. Question, challenge all things, especially what you?ve been taught about supposed enemies. Sort out the truth from convenient myths. Words are magical and potent?use them effectively."

Also, to clear up one of the common misconceptions (as I was asked to by Azure Sky)

I could have sworn there was one denouncing the stereotypical 'children/animal/blood/sacrifice' bs.

Not sure though, been quite some time since I have looked at said field.

Lets see if I can grab the attention of someone into this type of thing though...

There are the aforementioned

Spoiler: Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth:

1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.

2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.

3. When in another?s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.

4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.

5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.

7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

9. Do not harm little children.

10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.