Is $6400 dollars a suitable punishment for animal cruelty? (redhooded newborn puppy killer)

[Scizophrenic Llama]

I haven't combed every post, but I'm pretty sure that fine is per animal. So do a bit of math there and you've got a pretty big price.

Although I'm not sure if that is how they do it, but I'd imagine that is how it's done.

 

[JLML]

How about getting thrown into a river without any hopes of getting out of it? At least that's what would happen if I happened to walk by when she did that. =.="

 

[Phoenix09215]

How would you get rid of them then? It's not like it's cheap to pay a vet to put them down you know.

I honestly think that Animal Cruelty is not good. But I think 6400 dollars is overdoing it a bit.

but dude... she actually threw puppies in to a river. You could hear them yelping, and she just tossed them in like they were garbage (and she enjoyed it...)

Nothing deserves to be treated like that

Its eastern Europe, they were most likely unwanted puppies and would've starved to death anyway i seriously don't get what all the fuss is about

So its ok to drown a bunch of helpless puppies for your own amusement, because they would die anyway?

Thats errr real nice that... real nice

way to put words in my mouth you twatsticle. Who/where did it say it was for amusement? seemed like mercy killing if you ask me, but hey, you go on and demand death penalty for animal cruelty. long live hypocrisy

Yeah but I mentioned that she enjoyed it... And then you went on and said it didn't matter because they would die anyway. If she was doing it for mercy I doubt she would've drowned them in a river. Its not very humane!

And again... I never said she should be killed, but I think she should get more then a fine because I don;t think thats the right punishment. But then again its in another part of the world to me so maybe its different there. So I am NOT a hypocrite!

You sir... are a jackass!

How would you get rid of them then? It's not like it's cheap to pay a vet to put them down you know. People are just crying because it is little puppies, truth is dogs are a pestilence in alot of places. Bet you didn't hear anything about the people who lit their hamster on fire and used it as a golfball, cause you know, it's a hamster and noone gives a shit about hamsters. If she had tortured them or something, then yea, she should be punished, but thats not the case so all she should get would be a like 400 euro fine or something similar. I may be a jackass, but I am a realistic jackass.

But she wasn't doing it out of mercy! I have seen the video and she cheers and laughs when she throws them in. She is just a horrible person and deserves to be punished. How can you defend her actions? And I admit that because it was puppies I felt more horrified and I really did hate the woman! But why wouldn't someone who has lived with dogs all their lives take this to heart?

Yes, I did hear about the hamster. And I cared about that just as much as this. Its not about the fact that these are puppies, its about the fact that no living creature should be treated in such horrible ways. But, seriously if your going to defend people who throw puppied in rivers and complain that people show sympathy to it and not to hamsters... I really don;t want to carry on with this, cause people like you make me angry!

I was never defending anyone I'm merely pointing out peoples ridiculous claims of pedophelia and murder and putting people into poverty. And yea, fine, don't reply then. I don't want to spend my time on prententious biggots anyway. Go on and enjoy your cozy life on rainbow lane.. I'm sick of people claiming that they'd rather see an orphanage burn to the ground with all the occupants trapped inside than a woman put a cat in a fucking bin. you're all completely insane and probally aspiring serial murderes

Who do you think your talking to here? I don't represent the people you hate because they would rather a human die than an animal suffer! I have not said anything to imply that I would rather see orphans die that animals get killed or whatever. Thats not the point! This woman should be punished! Its animal abuse! Just like someone should be punished if they harm a human! In a perfect world I would rather neither happened but neither of us live on rainbow lane, we live on Earth, which is full of sick minded bastards! So don't call me a biggot because you have some sort of vendetta against people, because I'm not the one you should be mad at! You just have a chip on your shoulder which you should probably sort out!

 

[joshthor]

money isnt a good idea. she doesnt have the money to pay for that, you know the parents are going to take the money. she should have too spend a few months in juvie and probably go to a psychiatrist, cause frankly, shes probably a psychopath.

 

[Moromillas]

Too light. Especially for someone that should not be allowed in the community.

 

[Tourette]

It's more than what some people get fined for harming other people. Go figure.

 

[kickyourass]

Maybe if it were just a case of her beating a dog, but she drowned six newborn pups in a river, she should at the very least be jailed for several months (Or maybe severely beaten).

Its eastern Europe, they were most likely unwanted puppies and would've starved to death anyway i seriously don't get what all the fuss is about

So it's ok to kill a living creature for shits and giggles if "They would've starved to death anyway?" You sir disgust me, both with your serious lack of compassion and your atrocious grammar.

What does my grammar have to do with anything, you obviously understand what im writing anyway, if it'll make you happy I could always write it in my first language, you arrogant prick. I never said it was okay to kill anything for shits and giggles, what ever gave you that idea probally also gave you the delusion that every culture has the same attachment to their animals as whereever you live.

Ok, I'll admit that the grammar comment was unnecessary and I retract the statement.

As for what gave me the idea that you thought it was ok to kill something for shits and giggles, that would be the your comment. You said you didn't get what the fuss was about when the girl drowned six new born dogs in a river simply for her own amusement. Are you saying that it's impossible for someone to perhaps misinterpret that? If that's not what you meant then by all means clarify please. I'd hate to carry on with this if the entire point of what I'm saying is based on a misunderstanding.

 

[Macgyvercas]

I think she should be shot.

Either that or tied to a mast and flogged.

And the fine should be at least 4 times that amount.

 

[Apocalypse Tank]

Teenagers tend to be irresponsible.
No its not okay to be immoral and slay animals, but considering the economic situation in Bosnia 6,400 can bankrupt any family. The biggest victim here will be her family.

And it is common in non-Western cultures to kill new born animals in order to optimize resources. I believe the internet is overreacting, and 6400 is about right as a fine.

 

[elcamino41383]

A suitable punishment would be for her to be thrown in the same river... with cement shoes...

I was thinking bind her arms and legs, but this works. If not that...well, $6400 PER puppy...and let a BIG MEAN dog play with her...see how she likes it...

Honestly, vets put down puppies and other cute animals everyday, and most likely for the SAME REASON. Extra animals have to be dealt with, and leaving them to the wild would be a much worse death.

The only thing wrong here is that she enjoyed it, and put it on the internet. Those actions are what she should be punished for.

Community service and counseling would be quite sufficient.

Yeah but it's one thing to put them down for population control or something. That's at least somewhat humane. I do agree with what you said in the second bit, about her enjoyment of it and putting it on the internet. That crossed even more of a line for me.

 

[Eren Murtaugh]

The fact that she enjoyed it enough to video tape it shows a complete disregard for moral values. She's obviously a troubled girl. She shouldn't be fined, but simply taken to a mental institution and evaluated. Some will see this as too lenient. Repercussions for her actions: Taken care of. She'll be psychologically profiled and treated as such her entire life. Punishment: More than likely to never be able to leave the institution. It takes care of it. Simply making her pay a fine isn't going to stop her behavior from continuing or growing. Remember, all psychological problems can be diagnosed and treated. She may not be a unique case but that just gives her a higher chance for rehabilitation and possibly reintroduction to society as a normal, functioning adult.

 

[charlest92]

FIRST OFF If you are one of those cock pounders who is calling for the death penalty you are gonna get the same death penalty for killing small children from some sense of selfrighteousness you stupid mindless fucking twat. OOOOO yes its soooooooo fucking bad to kill pupies even though her family might not have been able to feed them and they would have suffered more from starvation, did you ever think of that NO you didn't so shut the fuck up. Dog breeders kill puppies all the time for shit as small as a odd shaped head or a small deformity on the ballsack, and the breeders do shit like poison them or strangleing them or snapping their neck or drowning them in 5-gallon buckets or shooting them with pistols, rifles, shotguns, bb-guns, and shit like that.

SECOND ITS A LITTLE FUCKING GIRL you really want to put a deathpenalty on that. That fucking blood goes on your hands too. Killing puppies is one thing killing a 5-12 yearold little girl is completely different.

A LIST OF IDIOTS WHO THINK THAT LITTLE GIRL SHOULD BE PUNISHED MORE IN SOME WAY.
Phoenix09215-more money. hates children with gusto. you sir are a dumbass can you tell she enjoyed it? were you standing next to her?
FargoDog-more money.
Old Trailmix-wants her killed.
radarbsm-more money or jail time for a 11 year old girl.
Ironic Pirate-she goes in the river? forces more punishment onto the girl.
Lord Mountbatten Reborn-community service.
Valkyira-wants her killed.
tomtom94- wants her to go to jail.
liamwazher- wants her parents to pay.
Kpt._Rob-thinks shes mental and wants her locked up or killed.
Vicarious Vangaurd- wants her raped tortured and murdered in a male prison.
Mr. Grey- wants some kind of punishment for each puppie killed.
Banana Phone Man-wants to kill her personally.
Okuu_Fusion-wants her killed.
Xojins- wants more punishment.
Disaster Button-wants more punishment.
superstringz-likes the 6.4k and wants to ruin her life forever.
uro vii- tosses a little child in prison.
USSR-calls for public humiliation and death. essentially execution.
Trogdor1138- wants to runing her life forever.
scythecow-wants her life to be community service.
Wolfy1328-more money and community service.
Vault boy Eddie-hates the little girl and babies.
Almgandi- thinks puppies are humans and wants her punished acordingly Ie. deathpenalty.
Dragons In Space-puts little girl in prison.
Swollen Goat-thinks shes mental.
SnipErlite-wants to drown her.
Ahlycks- more punishment.
Stormz-more punishment.
Blatherscythe- lifetime of slavelike hard labor.
Gudrests-says nothing of value
Treeinthewoods-lifetime of community service.
TheMightyImp-more punishment on the girl.
Kelethor- doesnt accually say anything original.
Glerken-completely usseless comment.
Duskwaith-would kill her personally.
cursedseishi-wants to ruin her life.
These people should be ashamed of them selves.


SMARTER PEOPLE FOR SEEING THE STUPIDITY OF OTHERS.
imnotparanoid-sees some reason.
RandomWords-almost stupid.
mad825-utterly brilliant ideas.
Plurralbles-has shit tons of common sense.
manaman-awesome person, sees the light.
Hubilub- a friggen genius.
Mad Stalin- another genius. great person.
linkzeldi-sees reason.
Regular Guy- sees whats up and doesnt voice an opinion.
CaseySmith-sees reason.
SaKenyi- smarter than the list of stupid people.
Imat-no opinion.
Hardcore_gamer-not quite sure but no calling for aditional punishment.
charlest92- Thinks every person in the stupid people list should take pistol and blow head off.
These people should also be ashamed of themselves for talking about something that they know so little about, but atleast they don't want to screw up a little girls life.

AND YES I EXPECT PROBATION FOR THIS.

 

[Phoenix09215]

-mega jack ass of a snip-

You are so obviously Mad Stalin... If your not even man enough to face all the people who dare to be angry at you for defending the woman who threw puppies in a river (and like I said I watched the video and it was quite clear she enjoyed it!) then please never come back here!

And if your not Mad Stalin then again... go away!

Also:

Spoiler

 

[JaymesFogarty]

I honestly think that Animal Cruelty is not good. But I think 6400 dollars is overdoing it a bit.

but dude... she actually threw puppies in to a river. You could hear them yelping, and she just tossed them in like they were garbage (and she enjoyed it...)

Nothing deserves to be treated like that

Its eastern Europe, they were most likely unwanted puppies and would've starved to death anyway i seriously don't get what all the fuss is about

Would you do that to people with cancer?

UHM, NO I'D LEAVE THEM ON THE STREET WITHOUT ANY MEDICAL CARE TO DIE HORRIBLY FROM THE CANCER EATING AWAY ON THEIR INSIDE
Do you even think before you write, jesus

Well, without motor activity in my brain I couldn't type, so the answer is, "of course I fucking think before I type!"
Moving on, I'll presume that's a no. To be fair, you said on your post that you didn't know why people were complaining about the murder of six animals, because they would probably have died anyway. I was just saying that using the same logic, it would be more humane to kill them. You know, as just like the puppies they would have died more painfully anyway. Hell, using that logic, we should simply kill every in the world, under the premise that they would, "probably have died anyway..."
Using CAPS LOCK like it would make your sadistic and illogical point any more logical? What are you, four?
EDIT: That did make me laugh, noticing the last word on your post. No, I'm not Jesus. And from the lack of full stop on the end of that sentence, I'm guessing; not from an English speaking country? That would probably explain your lack of compassion for the puppies.

 

[xDarc]

Sorry, I just can't get all choked up about animals. You see them squashed on the side of the road every day, millions of strays and ferals... and people are talking about killing someone over a bucket full of puppies?

Shame you don't want to kill because of how badly you're getting fucked by the upper 1%;.

 

[cheese_wizington]

Nope. It needs to be far more.

Well its a start, but its still not enough.

I don't know seeing how the average yearly income per capita of Bosnia and Herzegovina is somewhere between 6,300 and 7,700 depending on which organization you trust more it should still be enough to give you an idea of how much money that is to these people. It is far to much to take from them. It could cost them their life savings, and possibly their homes as well.

They should wave the fine and just send her to a male prison.

I think she should be shot.

Yes because advocating and wishing to see the rape, murder, and torture of an eleven year old girl is a great sign of mental health. Unless of course you didn't mean that, but are just so used to being the tough guy on the internet becasue you know you never have to worry about following through.

We all know that the later is the case so why even bother pretending? You wouldn't kill this girl for killing puppies and if you did you would be a worse person then her in my eyes.

No. I'd actually fucking kill her.

 

[Plurralbles]

A flat, 6800 isn't smart. It should be $400 and up. Then maybe people would be more keen to smack people in teh face with the law.

Threatening HUMAN LIFE isnt' even that much(speeding tickets and the like)

You can't really compare speeding to drowning puppies in a river.
She wasn't threatening animal life, she was killing them.

I don't put much value in animal life. I say that the life of an animal is worth the potential life of a human.

 

[Plurralbles]

Sorry, I just can't get all choked up about animals. You see them squashed on the side of the road every day, millions of strays and ferals... and people are talking about killing someone over a bucket full of puppies?

Shame you don't want to kill because of how badly you're getting fucked by the upper 1%;.

it's the internet, people will threaten death to people over the most stupid shit just for lawls and because it's fucking easy as hell to be on a stupid high horse and be an absolute vegan pussy while behind a screen.

People get the most upset about things that don't fucking matter and just let the status quo rail them in the ass as much as possible, so long as they can use Rent a Center and get their big screens with their maxed out credit cards and pretend they're actually well off even though they can be homeless with less than a month's lost pay check.

People suck and they suck the most when things actually mean something.

Of course, if you posted a thread about how much people are getting fucked in teh ass, they won't do anything about it, and htey won't do much about this puppy killer either except ***** about it- though it's not affecting them at all in any way. Hell, it's insane how we're critiquing a BOSNIAN law's penalty. It's so irrelevant to our daily lives... it's silly.

EDIT: And to illlustrate this point. How much do these posters do to help animals in their own country? Do they do ANYTHING to help them? All the strays... alll the mistreated animals in their own country.. What do they do? Not a DAMN thing. Spay and neuter would have never had these puppies be alive in teh frstplace, THAT'S what you guys should be clamoring and bitching about. Did this girl steal these puppies? Were tehy going to good homes if they had lived? Were the parents of these puppies being taken care of? No? yes? These are very, very needed questions to be asked and I don't see anyone saying anything other than, "Kill the puppy killer! WE NEED BLOOD!". Cowards, juveniles, and misanthropes.

 

[Moromillas]

Well, I can certainly understand others call for righteous vengeance, even though it's unjustified, I think. You see, the big problem I have with it would be that most people, (probably more-so for little ones) would, after considering killing something small and defenseless think: "gee, that's not very good, I wouldn't want to hurt it." Yet, in this situation, that wasn't there. To me it looked like she enjoyed it, like something was just not right with her. Could you imagine living next door to her? Doesn't exactly scream valued community member later on in life. And the communities response is... a fine?

(Edit) Btw, I feel very left out that I'm not on that big list.

 

[Bobzer77]

As much as I thought it was cruel taking ?5k off a family won't bring the puppies back.

And a prison sentence is not going to bring back a dead human, but you can see why it is necessary. I'd say the charges need to be much, much higher, to ward idiots off trying it again.

Yes but will the girl be paying it or will the rest of her family who presumably had nothing to do with it?