Tenkage said:
Easy, by putting it up onto her tumbler, not mentioning anything about the fact SHE KILLS A HUMAN BEING, it is clear she condones it. If she would put on her twitter she doesn't like the killing part, then I wouldn't put this on the forum.
That you think liking a piece of fan fiction which depicts her killing someone is tantamount to condoning actual murder is laughable. Completely and utterly laughable. Honestly, you lose any credibility you may have had because no sane person capable of following even basic logic through to a somewhat reasonable conclusion could ever make the flying leaps you have to make to come to that one. I honestly have to wonder if you're just trolling because that conclusion is so patently absurd. It's like saying anyone who ever gave a Grand Theft Auto title a positive review condones killing hookers, mass murder, and vehicular homicide.
wintercoat said:
Guy makes a shitty flash game where you beat up Anita: "Rabble rabble rabble rabble!!!!!!!!!!"
Person makes a fanfic where Anita murders a guy begging for his life, and RL Anita gives it a thumbs up: Oh, it's just a joke guys! Quit taking everything seriously.
It's like hypocrisy grew hands and joined the forums.
Whether or not Ms. Sarkeesian is a hypocrite or liking this is open to some debate, but she probably is on some level. Though I'd argue the problem she has with people making a game about beating her up had nothing to do with her kickstarter or the quality of her work, and everything to do with the fact that she was a woman and dared to say that there's some sexism in games and the industry. People would be absolutely right to make that argument by the way, though the key difference between that and this is that absolutely no one would argue that they didn't have the right to make the game just because some people disagree with its contents. Also, no sane person would argue that by making or liking the game, people were advocating beating Ms. Sarkeesian half to death.
But people are arguing that because she enjoyed a work of fiction she condones murder. This assertion is utterly ridiculous on the face of it, and is the thing that people like myself actually take issue with.
You can feel free to argue that it's in bad taste, that she may be a bit of a hypocrite for liking it, or whatever else you can come up with relating to the work itself and it's value. What you can't argue is that liking it means someone condones violence because that is the most ridiculous thing I think I've heard someone say on these forums in weeks. There is no line of logical thought that will take you from the events that have transpired and that conclusion. If you think there is a logical line of thought that gets you there, you are objectively wrong and I can say that without any amount of exaggeration or hyperbole. It's not something that is a matter of opinion, or which you think and is some unassailable idea because you're just throwing it out as a hypothetical. It is a conclusion which is literally not supported by the facts nor rational thought.
So no, telling some people that they need to lighten the hell up is not hypocrisy. Some people are coming to conclusions which can accurately and objectively be described as completely ridiculous and wrong, and pointing that out is merely the logical, and correct thing to do.
But excellent job completely missing the point of what most of us take issue with in this whole debate.
