Let me help you there. On a scale, if Ultra-liberal has the value of -1, and Ultra-conservative the value of +1 (moderate therefore being 0), we would be at about +1/4.Treblaine said:
Is America a mainly Conservative Country?
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Well then I can understand. Hearing the same shit day again and again makes me want to go against the flow just to see them act like someone being liberal means they're going to hell and will die painfully and poor, and it's even worse since they're ALL Christian, so most of their views on everything are just based on what their pastor told them. I started going to Church though, just because the church nearest me has the coolest guy teaching Sunday School, and there's free donuts and their new pastor is completely pro-gay.Onyx Oblivion said:
Edit: Those crazy asshats who go around saying Obamas the next messiah piss me off too. But people make them seem like the majority, just like how apparently the majority of people who need Welfare abuse it.
Thank you, kind sir.MrJohnson said:
I'm not convinced that political views can be quantified and cancel each other out in such a way. Also you haven't pointed out how it's been quantified - by population, by notable figures, or however else. Call me cynical if you will, but it sounds like it's based on personal experience, which is definitely not a good way to measure the approach a whole nation takes on anything.EqualNOpposite said:
I genuinely love that, it should totally be made into a car sticker. It'd certainly be a good counter to all the "Jesus loves this car" themed ones.Decabo said:
Do you know who the last president was? George Bush was very inexperienced, and he was *gasp* white. If Obama was white, I doubt people would be acting like the world was about to explode. You can say "It's not because he's black, I just don't like his policies.", and maybe that's true for you, but with all Obama's been through, you have to admit that no white president has been put through this, and Obama hasn't even done anything to warrant it.D Bones said:
I would say mainly yes. I personally disagree strongly with all of the policies going on now though mainly our health care bill. I don't want my tax dollars going to pay for abortions.
I'm not sure if you don't understand or if you disagree. After all, that's the Internet-official picture for 'Not this shit again,' not 'I don't get it.'Treblaine said:
Either way, I think the three agreeing polls from the three largest statistics institutes in the country should either help edify you or... well, help edify you, whatever the case may be.
Oh sorry, you were using those weird backwards labels. Liberal traditionally means more individual freedom both political and economic, which is what I meant by liberal economy.mcgroobber said:
Seriously, our culture has a huge fundamentalist base that many Americans think is the same as mainstream Christianity. This has lead to huge and continuing mistreatment of homosexuals and other minorities. Heck, a significant chunk of Americans aren't even convinced Evolution has and is taking place. Texas just added a whole bunch of historical revisionism to it's school curriculum (which the textbook manufacturers always follow for most of the country), including that Senator McCarthy was IN THE RIGHT with his witch hunts.
Here is the problem with the coverage of the Tea parties, Fox sold them as great heros and a triumph of free speech, but when people protested Bush and the war, they were terrorist lovers and whiners, but their was virtually no difference in how they acted, probably had the same ratio of crazies and generally concerned citizens. Left wing news my may be guilty of the same hypocrisy, but it certainly is a good example of Fox having a bias.Hunter2458 said:
It is these reasons that I avoid 24 hour news shows in general, I'd rather watch the news hour or meet the press.
As for my opinion on america's political standing I think its pretty balanced and in constant flux. After Bush's approval rating was down to like 30% a lot more people wanted to vote democrat, now that people feel like obama hasn't done enough, the country has started to take steps back towards the right. I also feel it has a lot to do with the region, since I am a college student in Mass., almost everyone around me is liberal.
WHAT? You're joking, right?Jark212 said:
Who were the people screaming "We want change!" all over the media? Who are the people who never shut up about how articulate and perfect Obama is? Conservatives? Please. The conservatives are far more quiet with the exception of the Tea Party.
Glad to see you've not done your research, otherwise you might know that that's a complete fabrication. But let's focus on that, rather than the 46 million uninsured, or 300% increase in premiums, or those denied coverage for stupid shit like preexisting conditions, the world revolves around abortions! And really, who wants their tax dollars to go toward helping people?incinerate94 said:
All the young people are liberal, and all the old people are conservative. Most old people vote, whereas young people sit on their ass and *****. In the '08 election, more younger people got out and voted than in the past 50 years or so, which is why Obama got elected.
Hahaha! Aren't the only people mentioning socialism in American politics at all conservatives who are afraid of it anyway?Skullkid4187 said:
Besides, like I keep saying, egalitarianism isn't automatically socialist or communist. That's a huge misconception. Egalitarianism is a basis for democracy - why else would everyone have the right to vote?
Hah. Haha. HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHA.AkJay said:
Wait, you were being serious? Oh dear.
Ok.... Well I will clear the air about this. I am both American and a political science/history major, so I really ought to know what I am talking about (my education rests on the fact that I do).
America has been both a heavily conservative and heavily progressive/liberal nation. Saying that more presidents were Republican and therefore more conservative is wrong, because roughly 80-90 years ago the party platforms were reversed. Republicans were more liberal and Democrats were more conservative, hence if you look up the term "southern democrat" that refers to a southern conservative mainly in the time up to and around 1920.
America also has a few periods of conservative and liberal periods, there has been four periods up to this point with 2 being heavily conservative and 2 being heavily liberal. Right now is the "Return of the Republicans (conservatives)" namely a primarily right wing movement beginning with Richard Nixon during the 1960's.
America is having a Democratic, namely liberal, resurgence at the moment with the past 2 of 3 presidents being liberal. And yes, most of the media is of the liberal at the moment, while during reconstruction (post civil war) most of the media was heavily conservative and was against the progressive actions of president Johnson (who oddly enough was Abraham Lincoln's running mate to win conservative vote).
America at its heart is really just a bi-partisan government. We have swayed both directions heavily in the past and in all relative terms will continue doing so. If you want to argue the virtues/inherent issues of a bi-partisan government that is all speculation and I have no input. Yes there is a lot of name calling, demonizing and conflict on both sides; and it has been that way for hundreds of years (even back to the federalists and anti-federalists... Look at Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton... they had a lethal duel, leading to the death of Hamilton).
Let's just put it this way... America is roughly half and half, where one half believes that the other is a bunch of close-minded, god-fearing, half-witted simpletons and the other half thinks that their counterparts are a bunch of latte-sipping, hollywood-living, arrogant busy bodies who just tell everyone what is good for them.
So, yea that is the best I could answer this forum thread. I feel like I deserve a cookie or something.
America has been both a heavily conservative and heavily progressive/liberal nation. Saying that more presidents were Republican and therefore more conservative is wrong, because roughly 80-90 years ago the party platforms were reversed. Republicans were more liberal and Democrats were more conservative, hence if you look up the term "southern democrat" that refers to a southern conservative mainly in the time up to and around 1920.
America also has a few periods of conservative and liberal periods, there has been four periods up to this point with 2 being heavily conservative and 2 being heavily liberal. Right now is the "Return of the Republicans (conservatives)" namely a primarily right wing movement beginning with Richard Nixon during the 1960's.
America is having a Democratic, namely liberal, resurgence at the moment with the past 2 of 3 presidents being liberal. And yes, most of the media is of the liberal at the moment, while during reconstruction (post civil war) most of the media was heavily conservative and was against the progressive actions of president Johnson (who oddly enough was Abraham Lincoln's running mate to win conservative vote).
America at its heart is really just a bi-partisan government. We have swayed both directions heavily in the past and in all relative terms will continue doing so. If you want to argue the virtues/inherent issues of a bi-partisan government that is all speculation and I have no input. Yes there is a lot of name calling, demonizing and conflict on both sides; and it has been that way for hundreds of years (even back to the federalists and anti-federalists... Look at Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton... they had a lethal duel, leading to the death of Hamilton).
Let's just put it this way... America is roughly half and half, where one half believes that the other is a bunch of close-minded, god-fearing, half-witted simpletons and the other half thinks that their counterparts are a bunch of latte-sipping, hollywood-living, arrogant busy bodies who just tell everyone what is good for them.
So, yea that is the best I could answer this forum thread. I feel like I deserve a cookie or something.
Except the Tea Parties were for the majority old racist homophobic white folk. And that old lady was probably racist, just pointing out. And the fact that they harrowed Senators by calling the n***** f*** might have also had something to do with it. And the fact half of them showed up armed, and with signs like "If Brown Doesn't Do It, A Browning Can."drisky said:
I find it funny that the author of this thread is unaware that the democratic party used to be the southern white racist party for most of its history. The republican party has sometimes been the liberal one and the democratic party has sometimes been the liberal one. It seesaws back and forth. As for the country right now? It seems very split down the middle with a slight emphasis on being liberal.
Ahem... I wish I could make my own post on the thread a sticky... or maybe I should edit it so that it is soooo massive that everyone will be drawn to that. But I literally just said that, less than a minute ago.Canid117 said:
i dont think it is
i live in a start that allows gay marriage ( clap clap ) good everyone should have the right to marry who they love ....
my views are not consevative i am very liberal
i think a small portion of usa is conservative but its that part that gets so much media attention
i live in a start that allows gay marriage ( clap clap ) good everyone should have the right to marry who they love ....
my views are not consevative i am very liberal
i think a small portion of usa is conservative but its that part that gets so much media attention