Well, I was not correcting, but rather reaffirming who was responsible for the game's story...Onyx Oblivion said:
but you're welcome.
Is enjoying 'Metroid: Other M' wrong?
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but you're welcome.
I have now lost much respect for Sakamoto, especially if this is how he envisioned Samus to be from the beginning. I mean, I can't hate the guy. Without him, we wouldn't have Metroid, period. Which means no Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Zero Mission, or the Prime games.JourneyThroughHell said:
None of which I ever played.Onyx Oblivion said:
So, by my calculations, I have no right to be offended by this game.
I still am, though.
You'd probably really dig the Prime games, assuming you like atmospheric shooters like Bioshock, that is.JourneyThroughHell said:
If you've got access to a Wii/Gamecube, and the <$5 a copy of Prime costs, you should take the plunge.
Not really that much of a fan. Athmospheric usually equals horror. I can't stomach horror.Onyx Oblivion said:
What are those?Onyx Oblivion said:
The gameplay is pretty fuckin' awesome, it's just the cutscenes and the voice acting that kills most people's enjoyment of the game, and you seem to have that problem under control.
No, there's no problem with liking it at all.
No, there's no problem with liking it at all.
I can assure you, no horror. Just a strong sense of isolation. But the game makes no attempts to scare you. It's about as scary as "The Flood" are from Halo.JourneyThroughHell said:
And the Wii/Gamecube are some kinda weird things that play games. One is an ugly purple box, and one is some kinda little white rectangle.
Then you can count me to that small group as well. I really really like Metroid: Other M. The only really negative bit i found was some bossfights that are not that obvious how to beat them(specially if they can only be killed with special finishing moves).canadamus_prime said:
Isolation doesn't sit well with me, too. You know the "Dam" and "Ship" levels from the original Call Of Duty. Those seriously unsettled me.Onyx Oblivion said:
But, you know, if ever by some random chance I lay my hands on a Nintendo console, the Prime series are the first thing I'm gettung. Because they're FPS games. And I'm predictable.
Good enough for me. You may wish to start with 3, then. It's the most action focused. Wii exclusive, though.JourneyThroughHell said:
Ask one of your friends if you can borrow their old 'Cube or Wii. Statistically speaking, one in every one person has a Wii these days.
The police havne't kicked your door down and stopped you so it's not illegal however you should understand the characterisation of Samus is horrible in that game and her relationship with Adam is that of an abusive father and a little orphan girl who wants to make him proud, but he doetn't care and makes you run through a volcano without the varia suit. :B
Alright to play, shit story, D/C-
once you're done play Zero Mission or the Prime Trilogy, you have a Wii no excuse to not own the damn thing.
Alright to play, shit story, D/C-
once you're done play Zero Mission or the Prime Trilogy, you have a Wii no excuse to not own the damn thing.
Your search - my friends who ever owned a Wii - did not match any documents.Onyx Oblivion said:
Seriously, most of them are PC only gamers who play strategy games, CoD and Valve games, one of them owns a PS3, two - an Xbox.
You probably forget where I live. It's Russia. Nintendo's new console is not big here, at all.
Ah! Thank you very much for clearing that up! It almost didn't make ANY sense at all how the same entity could make Heavenly sword and Odyssey, then also the other crap. Now I know that's because they didn't!Antonio Torrente said:Team Ninja is a japanese developer known for the Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden games and also known for popularizing the "jiggles physics"(aka bouncing boobs) in video games and usually portraying women as sex fantasies in their games.Firia said:I can't afford a Wii right now.I want to play the prime games, but it'll have to wait until 2013 when I'm graduated from college. And I don't know who Team Ninja was, other than the guys that did Heavenly Sword (I think?) which I REALLY enjoyed.
Ninja Theory on the other hand is an English/British developer from Cambrige, England who developed Heavenly Sword, Enslaved: Odyssey to the West and upcoming Devil May Cry reboot.
People usually confuse these two developer because they both have ninja in their names.
Which puts my mind at ease some. I can go back to loving what I know about Ninja Theory, and despising Team Ninja.
Fair enough. Personally, I was disappointed by Other M and thought it was crap, but if you enjoyed, that's good.
Glad I could help, it usually happens that people confuse these two different developers just because both have ninja in their names. And I can't stand that Ninja Theory receive hate that is in fact for Team Ninja.Firia said:Ah! Thank you very much for clearing that up! It almost didn't make ANY sense at all how the same entity could make Heavenly sword and Odyssey, then also the other crap. Now I know that's because they didn't!Antonio Torrente said:Team Ninja is a japanese developer known for the Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden games and also known for popularizing the "jiggles physics"(aka bouncing boobs) in video games and usually portraying women as sex fantasies in their games.Firia said:I can't afford a Wii right now.
Ninja Theory on the other hand is an English/British developer from Cambrige, England who developed Heavenly Sword, Enslaved: Odyssey to the West and upcoming Devil May Cry reboot.
People usually confuse these two developer because they both have ninja in their names.
As seemingly the only person in the world who liked Dante's Inferno, I say there is nothing wrong with liking a game despite its reception in the community. I have never played it, but I don't know. It could be good.
Try reading it in an acronym:canadamus_prime said:
M.O.M
Remember the whole 'bottle ship' and 'babies cry' distress signal? I'm not going to say it as a fact, but it still is a noteworthy coincidence. I'm not going to call it fact, more like, coincidence.
Had a read, very deep and interesting stuff here. And when you actually take it all in context, there is some creepy imagery here, that even if it's not intended, still is creepy.ShadowsofHope said:
Truth be told though, I do doubt most of this stuff was intended. Just unfortunate implications. Thanks for posting though, definetly an intriguing read, helps me understand where a lot of the arguments about this game are coming from.
Frankly, I'm amazed that Movie Bob was able to draw accusations of 'facist undertones' from Halo having diverse enemy types while having samey looking allies.... but he somehow didn't notice any of this unintended symbolism here.
But then again, one was Halo and the other was made by Nintendo
... Okay, maybe I'm not that amazed.
Anyway OT:
I think you are well within your rights to like and watch whatever you want. Even with the creepy sexist undertones within, I don't think the game is genuienly trying to sell it off as a good thing and in that respects, it shouldn't bother you too much. If you are having fun playing the actual game, with the gameplay and action and level design, that's your right and no one should have any right to tell you off for it.
I mean, I'm a Halo fan. And I genuienly liked Avatar. And my preferred love interest in Mass Effect is Ashley Williams, so I certainly know how it feels to feel like you should be ashamed for liking something you do while the masses hate on it. But you shouldn't have to, don't let the haters influence you for a second.
Even if I conceded and admitted that other shooters do what Halo does better, that doesn't make me enjoy the lore, universe, weapons, music and general experience of the games any less. Even though I admit that Avatar's story is kind of preachy and rich in cheese, it didn't stop it from being a visual masterpiece. And even though people constantly pile up the accusations about Ashley Williams, it doesn't matter to me, she's still my fake video game girlfriend.
Point is, don't let other people's opinions ruin your view of a game. Even though, admittedly, I don't approve of some of the subtext in Other M, I certainly wouldn't condemn you for playing it and liking it. It's not like putting the game in your Wii automatically turns you into a woman hating masculine obsessive who will soon demand women return to their rightful place, the kitchen.
Anymore than any accusations of 'facism' will suddenly make my playing of Halo turn me into a Neo Nazi skin head conservative.
That said, I do have issues with Other M. I do find it rather sexist, and I know my two pro-feminist older sisters would as well. But I'm not about to go around preaching it to people who merely liked playing the game and had fun with it, maybe the people who genuienly maintain that the characterization of Samus is a positive thing and that her relationship with Adam was totally fair and equal. But even then, those people have a right to their own opinions so I probably wouldn't.
Bottom line: Don't let other people influence your gaming life, don't feel bad about playing whatever you want. Unless it's Ultimate Duck Hunting.
Also as a side note: I haven't actually played Metroid: Other M, or any Metroid games. Most of my understanding I take from reasearch on the web and from hearing people's arguments for and against it, so with that in mind, I am only forming an opinion on this based on what I've seen and heard, not experienced. So here I am openly pointing out that I am not really much of an authority in this regard save for a casual observer.
So if anyone has criticisms about anything I've said.... go easy on me. Please?
The thing is though, it doesn't work no matter how you try to rationalize it. Because Samus already had her little Ridley freakout in a Metroid manga, which Sakamoto has gone out of his way to confirm as canon backstory to the Metroid franchise. Besides, considering how tons of other enemies Samus had fought had been cloned on the ship, she should have expected Ridley to show up. If she didn't then she's, well, stupid.canadamus_prime said:
As someone else said, one should probably at least galnce over this [http://moonbase.rydia.net/mental/blog/gaming/metroid-other-m-the-elephant/article.html] to see just how bad the plot of Other M is. And while I don't agree with the implication that Sakamoto intentionally made Samus into a submissive women (I think he's just a terrible writer), it still highlights how the plat fails.