Is it cheating?

[Kinguendo]

You have to look at the big picture... "its in the game"... a glitch is in the game so stop excusing actual cheaters.

Knifing increases akimbo 1887s... a patch came out to lower the power and range of these... what excuse did they use before the patch? "Its in the game."

Using n00b tactics only decreases the fun for the new players and people who refuse to use n00b tactics, the new players are more likely to pick up n00b tactics and claim it is "skill" after the n00bs that killed them when they were starting out, laughed at them for having 2 kills and 20 deaths and saying they were crap because people were n00b tubing, camping and knifing.

EDIT: Is it cheating? No.

Does that mean you should do it? No.

Does that mean you can bully people who have less kills than you because you get cheap kills? No, and you should be reported for doing so.

Aren't you kind of bullying people be claiming that if they use a knife they are a (oh God, I have to say it don't I) "n00b", using some arbitrary, derrogatory term (in gaming at least) to describe someone you probably do not know in real life, or have no knowledge of how often they play the game or how good they are? Isn't that kind of ruining the fun for the person being called that, who isn't knowingly taking advantage of any glitch in the game that we are aware of?

I'm beginning to think everyone wants this game SO balanced that everyone leaves every match with the same amount of kills and deaths as everyone else, so nobody has to lose and get mad over it. I've blasted a shit-ton of people running around knifing, I don't see what the problem is. For the amount of time people spend complaining about every little thing in MW2, it's amazing that there are even people playing the game.

That title is something they earn by doing the things that they do, is calling a murderer a murderer bad? No, didnt think so.

If you choose to get cheap kills then you are a n00b, if you bully other people because they dont use the cheap tactics that you use then you deserve to be banned.

 

[Caliostro]

Is it cheating to use the knife, a tertiary weapon, as your main weapon, or is it a legitimate strategy?

It's legitimate, you're not exploiting a glitch or abusing a bug, you're using a weapon. It's MWII that sucks gigantically as a multiplayer game, allowing supposedly "last ditch" weapons to be more efficient than primary weapons.

FYI: Knives in the army are used as multipurpose tools, not weapons. Against a kevlar vest they do nothing, especially if thrown. They're about as effective as a thrown rock of the same weight. You'd need your entire body behind a push and a really sturdy knife to pierce the kevlar, and I mean you'd need to ram the guy with the knife... You're better off bludgeoning him in the head with the butt of your weapon.

 

[AndyRock]

it's not cheating, it's damn annoying though.
Im not sure about this but would you class a turbo controller as cheating? I definatly would.

 

[Manhattan2112]

I once hid in a dark corner, and knifed three people. They were pissed, but I was happy. No of course it's not cheating. It's just annoying as hell.

 

[SilentBobsThoughts]

You have to look at the big picture... "its in the game"... a glitch is in the game so stop excusing actual cheaters.

Knifing increases akimbo 1887s... a patch came out to lower the power and range of these... what excuse did they use before the patch? "Its in the game."

Using n00b tactics only decreases the fun for the new players and people who refuse to use n00b tactics, the new players are more likely to pick up n00b tactics and claim it is "skill" after the n00bs that killed them when they were starting out, laughed at them for having 2 kills and 20 deaths and saying they were crap because people were n00b tubing, camping and knifing.

EDIT: Is it cheating? No.

Does that mean you should do it? No.

Does that mean you can bully people who have less kills than you because you get cheap kills? No, and you should be reported for doing so.

If there were more players like you in the xbox live system it would be so much better.

 

[chronobreak]

That title is something they earn by doing the things that they do, is calling a murderer a murderer bad? No, didnt think so.

If you choose to get cheap kills then you are a n00b, if you bully other people because they dont use the cheap tactics that you use then you deserve to be banned.

Are you kidding me? You're comparing a murderer to someone playing a video game? Ok, using your strange analogy, if the knifing is in fact a glitch or exploit (which there is no evidence of, but let's roll with it), it would be like calling someone involved in a car accident that killed someone a murderer. Sure, you can see it that way, but it's a little extreme when the person was just driving along and someone swerved in their way. If you're using a murder analogy, you must be real mad about getting killed by knifers. I would suggest you take a break from the game, or not play if you can't enjoy it because of all those knifers running around. Alternatively, you could shoot them with your guns.

Also, where is this bullying? In your headset? Turn it off. On The Escapist? Don't log in. Do you really go around reporting every person who "bullies" you over XBL or whatever service you use to play?

 

[Tiny116]

My uncle encountered a similar problem when he started playing Gears he was getting kicked from a lot of matches for using the chainsaw as his main weapon.
Anyway'S No i don't think it's cheating at all, the reason everyone gets pissy About these tactics in a game is because it kills you outright without giving a chance to fight back.
to which i answer with a big FU (Usually in the form of a knife slash/chainsaw mess) As for Camping...If you're playing a sniper character what the fuck else are you SUPPOSED TO DO???

 

[tetron]

As far as I'm concerned if you can do it without a 3rd party program then it's all fair game. I'm even fine with spawn camping and the like(yes yes pipe down) since if the other team(or your own) gets themselves in that position then they should've played better. As far as the topic of knifing I rarely use the knife just because I rarely find myself in the position to use it but if I run around the corner into someone I'm not the back up and fire type I'm the keep going forward and knife that nub type.

 

[Attelia]

Naturally, whenever you kill someone with a tactic they do not like or expect they will say that you are cheating.
I have only ever played one first person shooter: COD: World At War.
While playing that with my friends all I did was knife.
All of my friends are snipers, ALL of them! So I get sniped about ever thirty seconds.
This gives me no time to shoot people once I see them. I don't have the tact to get behind them without them noticing so I have to knife whilst dodging their bullets.
I don't think its cheating because if you call knifing cheating you could basically say sniping is cheating.
Unless, of course, you think FPSs are about guns and only guns.

 

[Kaisikudo]

No, not at all. That's like saying using the Grenade-Launcher is cheating...

 

[Kinguendo]

That title is something they earn by doing the things that they do, is calling a murderer a murderer bad? No, didnt think so.

If you choose to get cheap kills then you are a n00b, if you bully other people because they dont use the cheap tactics that you use then you deserve to be banned.

Are you kidding me? You're comparing a murderer to someone playing a video game? Ok, using your strange analogy, if the knifing is in fact a glitch or exploit (which there is no evidence of, but let's roll with it), it would be like calling someone involved in a car accident that killed someone a murderer. Sure, you can see it that way, but it's a little extreme when the person was just driving along and someone swerved in their way. If you're using a murder analogy, you must be real mad about getting killed by knifers. I would suggest you take a break from the game, or not play if you can't enjoy it because of all those knifers running around. Alternatively, you could shoot them with your guns.

Also, where is this bullying? In your headset? Turn it off. On The Escapist? Don't log in. Do you really go around reporting every person who "bullies" you over XBL or whatever service you use to play?

I didnt say it was the same as murder, I said it is a title that is earned through doing an act. Like the word murderer is bestowed upon someone who commits murder... see?

Wow, so when I said "the knife ISNT a glitch" you got "the knife IS a glitch" from that... fantastic.

Your cure for bullying is that the victim stop... wow, that makes you seem like a pretty bad person.

So if "I" am being bullied I shouldnt try to stop the bullying I should just leave and bow down to the bullies, I should do what they want me to do... you really seem like a terrible person from the words that you say.

Also, I never said I was being bullied. Shockingly enough I dont only take issue with something when it effects me, I am not a selfish person. If someone is bullying someone else then they deserve to be banned... I will report them and hope they get banned.

Bullying over the internet is THE only way you can hurt another person, saying that the victim should stop doing something to avoid being bullied is punishing the victim and letting the bullies get away with harrassing people.

I dont agree with you and I never will if this is your mentality.

 

[rynocerator]

It's not cheating but it's unsportsmanlike conduct.

I'm gonna go ahead and agree here. It is very unsportsmanlike to run around like a lunatic flailing a knife around in a game where you're intended to be using teamwork (at least in team-based game modes) to accomplish a goal. I don't think anyone expects some random guy to dart around a corner and knife him from half a mile away using commando.

 

[Kinguendo]

You have to look at the big picture... "its in the game"... a glitch is in the game so stop excusing actual cheaters.

Knifing increases akimbo 1887s... a patch came out to lower the power and range of these... what excuse did they use before the patch? "Its in the game."

Using n00b tactics only decreases the fun for the new players and people who refuse to use n00b tactics, the new players are more likely to pick up n00b tactics and claim it is "skill" after the n00bs that killed them when they were starting out, laughed at them for having 2 kills and 20 deaths and saying they were crap because people were n00b tubing, camping and knifing.

EDIT: Is it cheating? No.

Does that mean you should do it? No.

Does that mean you can bully people who have less kills than you because you get cheap kills? No, and you should be reported for doing so.

If there were more players like you in the xbox live system it would be so much better.

Thank you, that is awfully kind of you to say.

 

[General Ken8]

No, it isn't. Getting kills with a knife takes a lot of skill or a lot of luck, and if you're good with them go ahead and use them.

 

[Zombie_King]

Yeah, but some games let you enter cheat codes as well. I think the question is more whether or not you're considered a douche when doing it. Just play the game as it's meant to be played. The guns aren't there for nothing, knife is a tertiary weapon for a reason.

Yes, but no games let you enter cheat codes for multiplayer use. Don't cry "the way the game's supposed to be played," the developers know a whole lot more about the way the knife is supposed to be used than you do. It has the disadvantages of range, and the advantage of being a one-hit weapon. It's balanced, because a bullet to the face could easily end any knife spree.

 

[Woodsey]

Not cheating (haven't played, but if it's legit in the game and you're not exploiting a bug, how can it be cheating?).

Oh, and there's nothing wrong with camping - if you're too stupid to check your corners/see where people are/learn where people are after dying/all of the above, then it's your own problem.

 

[Singularly Datarific]

Nah, it's just cheap and unbalanced.
Really fun though!

 

[WaywardHaymaker]

My only quirk with MW2's balance was the Akimbo 1887's. They fixed those (But having Stopping Power and Steady Aim brings them back to the original state).

Running around with a knife is fun, and only on rare occasions have I seen some one do REALLY good like that. But on more common occasions, I've seen people do REALLY good with an Assault Rifle or a Sniper Rifle.

Fair by me.

 

[NicolasMarinus]

It's like people complaining about tubes. The developers put the weapons in there, so you are meant to use them. Both are one-shot-kill weapons, if properly used. If not, they have huge disadvantages: the tube has only one shot and takes forever to reload, the knife has a véry short range and takes forever to take a second stab.

So no, it is not cheating.