Is it just me or are we starting to live in V for Vendetta times?

[Hammartroll]

I never understood the "Move to Canada or Britain" people.

If you're leaving America because you hate it, why would you go to the two countries most similar to it?

actually, after giving it a little thought, I think I'd move to New Zealand if America went to shit.

 

[greatcheezer2021]

depends on who is "we". in the U.S., congress is getting around to the habit of censoring a bit more blatantly than usual and their people are getting pissed for it.

eventually, i think one day further in the future when my generation is older, we'll have something akin to the internet but without the great technology of communication. only mindless brainwashing followed by some mass advertising will be present. with that i believe one day congress will cross the wrong line and the people of the U.S. will start an uprising. or a purging of congress. or some sort of overthrow and a great anarchy will follow and their society be forever changed, thanks to their amendments.

 

[Locke_Cole]

Seeing as Alan Moore wrote V for Vendetta in the 80's and was based off England's super conservative, authoritarian government, I'd say we've long since been in "V for Vendetta" times." It's just that Americans are finally starting to realize it.

Like Alan Moore in the late 80's. I've begun thinking of moving to a different country. Despite my dislike for snow, I've been researching Canada. Looks like they've got, at least, the same standard of living and freedoms, better healthcare and economy, they aren't as corporate or war hungry, and no one waves the flag in your face and asks, "Did you thank God you were born American, today?" Any Canadians in the audience who want to shed some more light on their country for me?

Don't worry dude, we've got you covered. Send us your vote this year.

http://www.collegehumor.com/embed/6685277/canada-runs-for-us-president

But seriously, it's not at all easy to get citizenship in another country. Generally for the vast majority of people, the country you're born in is the country you'll be stuck with for the rest of your life.

 

[Akimoto]

I don't think so. But I think we hear more thanks to the Internet, Twitter and Facebook. At the risk of sounding cynical, I daresay there's nothing new in terms of people being unhappy with ruling powers. It's a matter of what's at stake and how many know.

 

[Dark Knifer]

And your solution is autralia!? I think it's worst there . So much censorship compared to other first world countries.

Not really. We lose a few video games but I can say whatever I want on the internet and real life without fear. We're hardly that censored because a few video games didn't make it through, this stuff I hear about government monitoring phone calls in the USA and New Zealand watching your every move on the internet seems much worse in comparison.

OT: Not really here in Australia. No totalitarian regimes here, just some politicians arguing over who did what far away from us. Elsewhere, not sure but 1st world countries are mostly liberal, apart from ones like china, north korea and maybe russia.

 

[ultimateownage]

Do you see a totalitarian police state, with no personal freedom and monitors on every street corner?
No? Then no, it's not V for Vendetta. Stop trying to link real life to works of fiction.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

I haven't read the comic, but I have seen the movie, and I'm pretty sure most of the changes made to the movie were to make it look more like the logical end point of the Bush administration's policies[footnote]see also: the sixth Harry Potter book. I don't know why so many Germans were upset; that was about post 9/11 witch hunts, not Nazi Germany. The seventh book, on the other hand, did have a lot more in common with the Nazis than anything going on in American politics at the time it came out.[/footnote]. Anyway, yes, we're living in V for Vendetta times. But it's because V for Vendetta was a commentary on trends that were already in motion when it was released.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

I think Mike Kupari's answer to this entire brouhaha belongs in this thread.

http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/01/18/sopa/

You didn?t care when the government decided it could spy on you without a warrant. You didn?t care when they started telling you what you could eat. You didn?t care when your kids? education was turned into indoctrination. You didn?t care when they were more worried about military veterans than Islamic terrorists. You didn?t care when they spent so much money that our entire economic system may co?llapse. You didn?t care when they gave billions of your money to unions and corporations that were their political contributors. You didn?t care when inert cosmetic features on guns were felonies. You didn?t care when they made it a fucking crime to not have government approved health insurance.

All of these things were done in your name. On your behalf. To help you, protect you, take care of you. Each time you gave them more power and gave away more of your freedom. Each time you believed them when they said they were protecting you, or helping the less fortunate, or sticking it to ?the rich? who ?aren?t paying their fair share?.

Each time you applauded their efforts. Mocked those that were concerned. Called them uncaring or racist or alarmist or stupid. Each time you asked for more. You begged them to take care of you, protect you, right wrongs, enforce equality.

But now that your Internet porn and bit torrents are threatened, NOW you care?

It?s too late for all that, kids. Turning off Wikipedia for a couple days isn?t going to win back the freedoms we?ve pissed away. It isn?t going to undo decades of expanding government power. They?ve already decided there?s nothing they can?t do, no law they can?t pass.

We watched it happen. We let it happen. We have the country we deserve.

So go ahead, post a rant about SOPA on your blog. Link to Ron Paul?s web page. Pretend you?re doing something. It?ll make you feel better. Then you will go back to business as usual and so will they.

Democracy in action. Isn?t it beautiful?

So because a lot of our freedoms have been taken away from us, we should just give up. Wow. That makes sense.

And I know that was written a couple of days before, but the SOPA protests undeniably worked. So there's one more point down. Any I've missed there?

What bugs me about that is that the PATRIOT act is not the fault of the generation that got up in arms about SOPA; that was our parents fault. I'm old enough to have voted for Obama, but when the PATRIOT act passed, I was in middle school. What, pray tell, was I supposed to do about it then? Not to mention the fact that my parents and I are long time members of the ACLU, so we actually /have/ been doing what we can to fight these power grabs...

 

[theultimateend]

I never understood the "Move to Canada or Britain" people.

If you're leaving America because you hate it, why would you go to the two countries most similar to it?

Similar food.

Some folks don't like eating new things.

I don't imagine it is much more than that, food is a big deal and motivates lots of things.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

I never understood the "Move to Canada or Britain" people.

If you're leaving America because you hate it, why would you go to the two countries most similar to it?

Similar food.

Some folks don't like eating new things.

I don't imagine it is much more than that, food is a big deal and motivates lots of things.

Also language, climate, and ease of access. I mean, if people really started leaving the U.S. en masse over the stuff that's been going on lately, the most logical choice for a first world country that doesn't pull that crap would be Sweden, but good luck actually getting citizenship or any other form of permanent residence there; it's just easier to move to Canada or the U.K., and any improvement is better than none at all.

 

[theultimateend]

I never understood the "Move to Canada or Britain" people.

If you're leaving America because you hate it, why would you go to the two countries most similar to it?

Similar food.

Some folks don't like eating new things.

I don't imagine it is much more than that, food is a big deal and motivates lots of things.

Also language, climate, and ease of access. I mean, if people really started leaving the U.S. en masse over the stuff that's been going on lately, the most logical choice for a first world country that doesn't pull that crap would be Sweden, but good luck actually getting citizenship or any other form of permanent residence there; it's just easier to move to Canada or the U.K., and any improvement is better than none at all.

Oh man...I'd love to live in Sweden. If I ever become famous I might use my super famous powers to get Citizenship in Sweden.

Then I'll do commercials for Swedish goods, kinda like American actors in Japan.

 

[krazykidd]

And your solution is autralia!? I think it's worst there . So much censorship compared to other first world countries.

Actually, Melbourne <url=http://www.smh.com.au/business/melbourne-judged-worlds-most-liveable-city-20110830-1jjaq.html>was voted the world's best city to live in. And frankly, I wasn't interested in playing

Hey UK/Australian escapists! American anthro dragon here. How's it in the UK/Australia? Because if America keeps on track with these kinds of bills and freedom-limiting actions, I may reconsider my citizenship here.

Australia's pretty damn awesome at the moment.

Really? How do you think so? :3

I wasn't saying australia sucked or anything like that . I assume OP was talking about censorship and Australia isn't the most " censorship-free" first world country. Sorry if i offended you :/