Is it justified to hate your parents for the same reason people say you should love them?
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Love it when people start the bitching about "omg life sucks so much" yet they have the time and resources to be able to post on an online forum about videogames -.-
I accept that people get born in to some terrible, pointless, hopeless lives, but anyone and everyone who can post here isn't one of them.
I accept that people get born in to some terrible, pointless, hopeless lives, but anyone and everyone who can post here isn't one of them.
It's not really worth considering, because why would you worry about such pretentious nihilist blowhards? If a person thought this way, I say that their parents did the child the tremendous favor of allowing them a life in which to feel fashionably existential. This is the kind of person who reads Nietzsche as a fashion statement. Eventually, the kid will grow up and feel enormously stupid about their wayward youth. It's no crime, we all think silly things in youth. But in time either the angry child will grow up and learn to enjoy life, or find a way to make money or entertainment off of their manufactured angst. And life remains pretty okay.
Hating life is silly, it's a wonderful world and if you died, where would you keep all your stuff?
No, you'd be an idiot to hate your parents for that.
No, you'd be an idiot to hate your parents for that.
i dislike my parents solely because i have absolutely nothing in common with them and i find both of them to be very snarky negative people, at least to me. is THAT so wrong?
It depends on what you mean. If you're saying 'Is it okay to hate my parents from bringing me into the world 'cause blah blah blah life sucks and everyone sucks and waaaah' then no, you're not justified, and you're a dumbass. If, however, you mean it in the sense of a couple having a child when they're in no position to support it, then that's a bit more justifiable.
Alright, I'll go tell all the children out that that their parents had just to get more food stamps and other support from the government so they can hang out and do drugs all day that they're being whiny bastards for hating their parents for completely ignoring them.Dawn Patrol said:
Being overly cynical is bad, but so is being overly "yay life is beautiful". Not everyone gets born to parents who care about them, so maybe try being a little less judgmental next time. Some people probably have very good reasons to hate their parents. Even if they manage to make okay to 18 and get the fuck out of there and make a decent life for themselves later, they still had a shitty life to start with, and who are you exactly to tell them that they weren't born in a shithole?
I'm from the school of life is what you make it. As the saying goes as bad as it is it could be worst.
Focus on the negtive and you will be negtive focus on the postive and you will be postive.
Focus on the negtive and you will be negtive focus on the postive and you will be postive.
TheDooD said:
I am rather poor, not a super model, or even the smartest guy to ever live. This is all my fault. But if you really feel that life is so damn hard, come with me on my next mission trip to africa or mexico. Nothing makes you appreciate your little niceties like seeing a baby die of aids because his mother didn't know she was infected or helping a family clean up their house that is made out of GARBAGE. So yeah, bills suck, working is rough, and you don't get to play with your friends all day but god damn you have the ability to connect to the internet which means you either have a phone or internet. And if internet then you have electricity in your house. Seriously, come with me to a third world country and then tell me your life is so rough.
Damn you took my comment way too seriously. What is with people bring up a 3rd world wah wah their lives are shittier compared to yours. The US is broke people are struggling hard to keep their jobs they really don't have time to party so what they do they stay home get ready for the next day of work, go online and or watch TV. Shit I'm tired from moving people's stuff in the hot ass sun for shit under the table pay just so I can help my mom with the bills. Yet shit other people don't have to move shit because they're living worse then I am. Oh I'm so sorry that I should be grateful I'm being under paid for back breaking work that I can get injured for that they don't have insurance to cover it.Thomas Guy said:
Oh no no no no no... There are PLENTY of other good reasons to hate your parents. That's...not really one of them, though. Try something more along the lines of whether they're a couple of A-class twits or something.
Now, no one actually has a say in being born. If they're born with some form of disability that their parents played a major role in causing, like being born with deficiencies due to things like drinking, smoking, etc and not just some random fluke, then you have all the right to be angry at your parents for being born the way you are. If you're an orphan whose parents simply left them, you may hate them. Though you could argue that they did a good thing by giving up a child they can't raise, so the child can end up better with foster parents.
If you simply don't like the world we live in, than no you can't blame your parents for giving birth to you. They've made your life mostly bearable if you're still alive and relatively healthy. For the most part, if you're living a relatively good life, it shouldn't matter what your parents did. If your life is in the shits, and they didn't play a major role in that, than it might be your fault.
Now, let me give you a heads up. Life is pointless, meaningless, and by the end of it all you most likely get no reward. Let's ignore all our theories of afterlives and reincarnation, because from a living point of view, you end up all dressed up, in a box, 6 feet underground. Now, that sounds kinda depressing. Living life just so it can eventually be taken away from you. Maybe you get in an accident, contract a fatal disease, maybe you live a full life and die old. But in the end, all you get is a suit, a fancy box, and a stone with your name on it.
^All of that doesn't matter. As long as you're comfortable with your life, it shouldn't matter to you how it ends. Maybe you can be a bit curious, a bit sour with the whole thing, but truthfully you got to go with it. If life isn't going the way you want, you either cope with it, change all of it, or kill yourself.
If you simply don't like the world we live in, than no you can't blame your parents for giving birth to you. They've made your life mostly bearable if you're still alive and relatively healthy. For the most part, if you're living a relatively good life, it shouldn't matter what your parents did. If your life is in the shits, and they didn't play a major role in that, than it might be your fault.
Now, let me give you a heads up. Life is pointless, meaningless, and by the end of it all you most likely get no reward. Let's ignore all our theories of afterlives and reincarnation, because from a living point of view, you end up all dressed up, in a box, 6 feet underground. Now, that sounds kinda depressing. Living life just so it can eventually be taken away from you. Maybe you get in an accident, contract a fatal disease, maybe you live a full life and die old. But in the end, all you get is a suit, a fancy box, and a stone with your name on it.
^All of that doesn't matter. As long as you're comfortable with your life, it shouldn't matter to you how it ends. Maybe you can be a bit curious, a bit sour with the whole thing, but truthfully you got to go with it. If life isn't going the way you want, you either cope with it, change all of it, or kill yourself.
I'm not sure about justice, but you could do whatever you want... I say do it if you want. But, it's very nonconstructive, and I would also very much advise against it. I just don't see how would that bring any good except maybe finally coming clean with yourself, if it truly is that bad it might be good finally accepting the grim reality. But that acceptance should be then used to propel a person forwards (fixing problems etc.), not backwards (depression, suicide etc.). Acceptance should not be used as an excuse for hatred (which is, I believe, by definition nonconstructive) or abused in any way (again depression and suicide etc.).
That's my two pennies worth.
That's my two pennies worth.
Good post, I'd just like to add that I have a theory that beating death (and all that depression about ending up in a box and all that) is by leading such a good life that you don't care about dying anymore. You've beaten it, you've done all you could with your life and you did it good/the way you want it. If that makes any sense.TheNaut131 said:
Edit: Sorry for the double-post, I was hoping someone is going to post in between
Wouldn't you rather direct your hate at what makes your life hell? I'm gonna say no, it's not right to hate your parents for bringing you into this world. Hate the things that make your life suck, whatever they are.SsilverR said:
Sure your justified.
For one, those are really shaky reasons to justify loving your parents. I love them because they genuinely care for me, provide for me, and give freely of them selves to me, all while being there to give support.
However, I can see why you could hate your parents for bringing you into the world. Some people just shouldn't be parents, not because they are bad people, but because they just can't provide properly for the poor kids needs.
If you are unemployed, living in a 1 bedroom apartment in a questionable part of town, and wouldn't be able to afford the average $700 a month for a newborn, don't have the kid. Just don't. Pregnant, and truly can barely afford to pay rent? get the abortion.
It happens all too often that families, some who already have kids, have another and can't afford to raise them, and they can end up in dead-end positions in life, with very little hope for a future thats bright.
For one, those are really shaky reasons to justify loving your parents. I love them because they genuinely care for me, provide for me, and give freely of them selves to me, all while being there to give support.
However, I can see why you could hate your parents for bringing you into the world. Some people just shouldn't be parents, not because they are bad people, but because they just can't provide properly for the poor kids needs.
If you are unemployed, living in a 1 bedroom apartment in a questionable part of town, and wouldn't be able to afford the average $700 a month for a newborn, don't have the kid. Just don't. Pregnant, and truly can barely afford to pay rent? get the abortion.
It happens all too often that families, some who already have kids, have another and can't afford to raise them, and they can end up in dead-end positions in life, with very little hope for a future thats bright.
I might be the only person making the other side of the argument here. I read the majority of the other posts, and haven't seen the other side yet . I figure if someone did, there'd be a little more "heated discussion" as to whose opinion is correct.
Before I explain, I just want to explain that I have absolutely no reason to hate my parents, I hold no resentment towards them. I just consider myself lucky to be in the situation I am. I can say I'm lucky because I've seen the unlucky side; or rather, a glimpse of it.
Anyways, I think it's perfectly justifiable to "hate" your parents because they brought you into the world. When I first read the topic, I instantly thought of a single mother. I'm not talking about a mother whose husband divorced her after they had the kid, or died, or whatever. I'm talking about women/girls who hold no responsibility for their actions, and just have kids whenever they feel like it. The only reason they're not on the streets is because they live in gov't housing and they ride on the welfare-train, with the Baby-Bonus steam engine. I've known people like this, I've known their kids. It's not a good situation. Quite honestly, it's a terrible situation. Or even just irresponsible adults, who aren't ready for a kid, and never will be. The kid grows up with no foundation; nothing to build on or succeed with.
I'm rambling, and not even illustrating my main point very well, which is that there are situations that I can think of (extreme circumstances, perhaps, but they exist anyways) that would be nothing but damaging to a kid. And I can't help but think that such a child would be absolutely justified in blaming their parents. They deserve to be asking their parents WHY they thought it was a good idea to bring a kid into the world that is so obviously set up around him to crush them. And their only source of refuge/support, is so damaged themselves that they can't possibly support a child, let alone themselves.
I'm REALLY rambling now, I apologize. I'll break up my ramblings into smaller pieces.
I just want to throw the idea out there, because I don't see it out there, that parents CAN be to blame, and that it's not always the kid's fault (entirely, at least).
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Before I explain, I just want to explain that I have absolutely no reason to hate my parents, I hold no resentment towards them. I just consider myself lucky to be in the situation I am. I can say I'm lucky because I've seen the unlucky side; or rather, a glimpse of it.
Anyways, I think it's perfectly justifiable to "hate" your parents because they brought you into the world. When I first read the topic, I instantly thought of a single mother. I'm not talking about a mother whose husband divorced her after they had the kid, or died, or whatever. I'm talking about women/girls who hold no responsibility for their actions, and just have kids whenever they feel like it. The only reason they're not on the streets is because they live in gov't housing and they ride on the welfare-train, with the Baby-Bonus steam engine. I've known people like this, I've known their kids. It's not a good situation. Quite honestly, it's a terrible situation. Or even just irresponsible adults, who aren't ready for a kid, and never will be. The kid grows up with no foundation; nothing to build on or succeed with.
I'm rambling, and not even illustrating my main point very well, which is that there are situations that I can think of (extreme circumstances, perhaps, but they exist anyways) that would be nothing but damaging to a kid. And I can't help but think that such a child would be absolutely justified in blaming their parents. They deserve to be asking their parents WHY they thought it was a good idea to bring a kid into the world that is so obviously set up around him to crush them. And their only source of refuge/support, is so damaged themselves that they can't possibly support a child, let alone themselves.
I'm REALLY rambling now, I apologize. I'll break up my ramblings into smaller pieces.
I just want to throw the idea out there, because I don't see it out there, that parents CAN be to blame, and that it's not always the kid's fault (entirely, at least).
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Wintermute_ said: