Is it time they stopped making new Pokemon?

[Piorn]

I'd say it's time they finally made a NEW pokemon game. Spin-offs are ok, but they're literally selling people the same game with different pokemon every time.

I'm talking about the gameplay here. It was ok in Red/Blue, the hardware was limited etc. But for a game that's about training, caring for and loving animals, it falls criminally short.
You know that one Pokemon that is supposed to be your partner in every situation, adventures, and life? The Pokemon that's supposed to mean alot to you? It's just a decorative sprite and a small pile of numbers. You have never interacted with it in any way, and it doesn't know you. It might as well be a colorful badge you strap to your knuckle to punch people.

 

[sethisjimmy]

I don't think they've run out of ideas for Pokemon. Look at gen 1. You've got Grimer and Muk, Pokemon based on pollution, Magneton and Magnemite, based on magnets, Exeggcute, based on a bunch of eggs, Mr. Mime and Jynx based on god knows what.

People like to forget the older generations had just as many weirdly designed Pokemon because they're nostalgic towards those games.

 

[Ryank1908]

Financially? No.

Artistically? Yes. There is no integrity left in the franchise. It's purely business.

 

[Semudara]

You know that one Pokemon that is supposed to be your partner in every situation, adventures, and life? The Pokemon that's supposed to mean alot to you? It's just a decorative sprite and a small pile of numbers. You have never interacted with it in any way, and it doesn't know you. It might as well be a colorful badge you strap to your knuckle to punch people.

That's been my biggest problem with the series lately, actually. You'd think that the Pokemon series, considering the philosophy of friendship with Pokemon that it's been espousing since the first game, would have at the very least dabbled in some pet-sim elements by now. There should be SOME way to interact with your "friends" besides battling and dressing them up in humiliating costumes.

Captcha: "i'm blessed"

True, very true. But I hope Game Freak starts actually moving the series forward. The world of Pokemon has so much more to offer us, and the potential is so very thick that it's painful.

 

[BrotherRool]

I agree with your principle, but since no-one else seems to have, I feel the need to point out that your poster maker doesn't appear to know the correct definition of an inanimate object.

Mainly that plants aren't inanimate objects. They're animate objects. Also in the simple/non simple designs, really only electrode was simple. Calling an unknown simple when it's a complicated swirl of lines, 27 different designs deliberately mimicking the alphabet? And one of them was an entire plant


Also, it seems to my eye at least, that there's a noticeable design difference in the complex ones between 1,2 and 4,5 gen, with the 3rd being a in the middle example. The 4,5t gens are a lot more curved and feature smooth points and tapered spaces, whereas the early gens are blocky, with very few continuous curves or points. I say this, because my impression of later gen pokemen was exactly that.

I'm also unsure which animal the 3rd gen pokemon is meant to be. Animal like yes, copying an actual animal? Maybe but I could put a finger on it.


The spirit of the poster stands I think though. For example a Magnemite is an inanimate object that they could have used (although in an earlier thread someone did the numbers and there was a significant increase in inanimate objects in the last gen). I don't know enough about later pokemon to find 'simple' examples but I'm sure they're there. (I always assumed Electrode was meant to look like something though, an electrical component or notation, I don't know why)


Anyway I thought I should point it out, because if we look at the poster and think 'oh yes that's a good point' then we're really just saying we agree with the point anyway, because that particular poster doesn't completely match with all it's examples. I completely believe someone could make a correct poster though

 

[Tdoodle]

I'm pretty sure I saw that working out on Pokememes and, apart from IV having the most legendaries and Pokemon that evolved from existing Pokemon, I don't remember there being much more than slight differences between generations.

On topic, no I don't think they should stop making new Pokemon because while it's possible to argue that they're running out of ideas (although I think the arguments tend to miss the point, Vanillish and Garbodor might not be the most interesting designs but I don't think that's nearly as bad as Conkeldurr and Gigalith blatantly copying Machamp and Golem's shtick), they're always finding new and interesting ways to refresh the metagame with new moves, movesets, abilities, stat distributions and type combinations. That's the main draw of a new Pokemon generation for me, that I'll have all these new toys to play around and experiment with. Take out the new Pokemon and all you don't get most of that, just some old toys with some new tricks which isn't going to keep me interested for nearly as long.

So long as they can keep adding more to the metagame I'm all for new Pokemon games. If it got to the point where each new monster was a blatant rehash of an existing one and was doing nothing for the competitive side then fine, no more. But until then, keep it coming.

 

[Judgment90]

I'll put this in a short message: No for the games, yes for the anime.

 

[Gormech]

Make a game like fireemblem/advancedwars/FFtactics with pokemon and have the game set online with a single purchase to access. Create your own pokemon unit and join others in rather a story driven quest including territory over the various biomes while allowing periodic download of your character into a single player version of the game on the handhelds or WiiU. Do not let single player characters go back into the mmo, just let the mmo update the single player unit. Allow friends to download each others characters for trade and such and I'll send in a resume.

 

[Gormech]

Also yea, try releasing less at a time per version. Just mix up which ones are available in the version by selecting around 350-400 of the last lot.

 

[Gatx]

I don't mind new pokemon. The people who complain always tend to be people who have started to outgrow the series but hold nostalgia for the first couple games.

And you can never have enough Pokemon. How many species of animals are there in the world? Millions. Pokemon are supposed to be the animals of their world so as it stands there aren't nearly enough.

I'll put this in a short message: No for the games, yes for the anime.

The show can go on forever, but I think it'd be good if they had new main character. It's ludicrous that Ash is forever ten years old. The quality of the show has gotten better though, especially since gen V.

 

[Master Cylinder]

I could list so many reasons why the main Pokemon games are awesome, how they keep getting better, etc., but I don't want to write an essay. Basically, I think Game Freak really cares about the Pokemon franchise (I can't say the same for the anime and all of the other Pokemon spin-offs) and every time a new game (from the main series) comes out, I happily give my money to them.

And to answer the original question (saw a lot of hate for the new games, so I kicked into defense): Keep releasing new Pokemon. I guess they could wait a bit until they release more. I'm fine with that. There need to be more Pokemon though, because if there are more options available, you have a better opportunity to create a unique team. Just remember, you don't have to catch 'em all. If you want to, knock yourself out, but there are many other things you can do in Pokemon other than that.

 

[SD-Fiend]

No I don't really think that they should. there are so many more species that they could come up with maybe they'll even release some of the ideas that they never used like dolly the cloned sheep pokemon.
About the legendary thing: I just feel that they should stop releasing so many of them each game. To me the pokemon still have the legendary feel Like Thundurus being a storm god or Melloetta appearing in ancient myth as a muse figure. but there are so many that aren't really plot relevant.

 

[Finbark]

There's a whole lot of people in here who don't like Pokemon that are telling the series where they want it to go. Does anyone remember the Gamecube Pokemon games? Or even the recent Mystery Dungeon games? Those took the series in a new direction and a majority of people hated them. Honestly, if you don't like Pokemon then you don't like Pokemon. The fans are still enjoying it and I see nothing wrong with it. I don't understand why an entire game series as deep as Pokemon should be restricted to children. It's an enjoyable series that's going in the right direction, and if you don't like it then that's fine, just don't get involved with it anymore.

EDIT: Just realized my post wasn't on topic.
So, OT: No, they shouldn't stop making Pokemon. Why is having more creatures to fill your party out a bad thing? Seriously, why would anyone want them to stop making new Pokemon? 90% of the Gen V Pokemon designs were flawless; I'm thinking that whatever Pokemon they bring out next will be perfectly fine.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

When it comes to Pokemon games, I kind of like how Mystery Dungeon and, Conquest exist even if they don't appeal to me in the least. What I don't like is how the last few Pokemon RPGs have been running low on steam. I like some of the gen 5 Pokemon but each generation has had some really weird Mon'.

Here's the thing though...I don't think Game Freak should stop making Pokemon games until they make THAT Pokemon game. You know the one: The one which would be on the Wii-U and look/play like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and/or, Monster Hunter, crossed with Pokemon Stadium. Once Game Freak makes the home console version of Pokemon, they will have my permission to move on to something else.

 

[Timmey]

I think so. Used to be fun to try collect them all, even with the necessary trading via gameboy to gameboy, now though it just isn't really possible.

 

[SD-Fiend]

Case in point: there are too many Legendaries. Being a legendary Pokemon used to mean something; it meant that the world would be thrown out of balance if something happened to it, even the little ones like Celebi. But now? I don't even know what this generation's "Mew" equivalent is. Kyurem? Keldeo? Genesect? Who even cares?

We need time to better get to know the species they've introduced, and they need time to make us actually care about the 50+ "Legendary" species they've flooded the series with. Just because Gen II added more Pokemon doesn't mean they have to keep doing it. There are other, better ways to get people excited about a new generation at this point.

Not really. That was something that they just added for the movies. In game you could just catch Zapdos and the world would be just fine. If I remember correctly the legendaries didn't become important to the plot till gen 3 and even then there were still legendaries that didn't really do anything. they are called legendary Pokemon because they are powerful Pokemon that are rarely seen and have in game legends associated with them like Melloetta being used as a muse figure in ancient times or the Kami trio being storm gods.I do agree however that they should stop making so many each game. It's getting to be too much.

And to answer your question the "Mew Equivalent" (also known as a mirage Pokemon) in Gen 5 is Victini