Is my buddy sexist? Or does he make a little sense?

[emeraldrafael]

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Maybe. More he just sounds like a complete and total dick. If he always does htings like this, makes jokes like women should be in the kitchen, and just generally looks down on them as inferior, then he is.

However! This argument has been brought up a lot, and on more then just women. I hear it most commonly in the arguments about why blacks want to be treated equal and yet there's affirmative action. Or how women wnat to be treated equal, yet if they get pregnant they get maternity leave and the time after it to care for the infant (whcih accounts to sick leave), and has to take sick days to take care of a kid if its sick. However you cant fire them for that, cause it creates the image that you dont want women with (young) children working for your company.

Its a lot of double standards in reality and its a hard line to cross, since you also have to take in account the person's life (my one friend was raped, so she doesnt trust men and could be called sexist due to that experience except around people she knows personally). So, I dont know your friend's backstory.

But again, to me he just sounds like a dick.

 

[Monkfish Acc.]

... Kind of. He was making a generalised statement that basically equated to "women do fuck all".
Probably not what he meant. I think he was going for something else and it came out in a sort of garbled state with unfortunate implications.

I don't know the dude, though, so I don't know.

 

[Iron Mal]

One of the misunderstandings of equality is that it doesn't mean that everyone suddenly has to play nice with you just because you're different.

You are free to be an individual, to express yourself and to do as you please but you still have to accept the immutable fact that people out there are jackasses (for the most part), if you are now equal then that doesn't mean you can't be picked on, it just means you're fair game.

By all means go forth and share your uniqueness and sense of identity with the world, but don't come crying to me when you get a whiskey bottle in the face for it.

 

[Meet the Pyro]

Most women don't want equality. They want to be treated better and be told they're equal with everyone else.

 

[[.redacted]]

The problem lies with your wording.

It isn't "can't", it's "won't", and it's for the same reason that overlords don't put the bins out.

 

[Legion]

It's a valid point that equality means not giving people positive special treatment as well as negative.

That said, he was being a dick there. It's just polite to take the book in that situation and put it away for them, whoever it is.

Indeed.

The only thing that could be sexist about his comment is that he implies that all women want "equality" as well as preferential treatment.

He probably didn't mean that, but it comes across like that slightly.

 

[Gasaraki]

Not sexist in the slightest.

 

[Jaranja]

He is a sexist, women actually do equal the amount of work and labour as men.
even more often, they deserve to get the same amount of payment, and to be treated just like men.

Why can't they open the fucking jam jar then?! >.<

OT: Your friend's a bit of a dick, not being a gentleman and all that.

 

[loc978]

Totally not worth taking seriously. This point has been raised millions of times, seriously and jokingly, for decades longer than I've been alive.

 

[ImNotReallySane]

its actually funny when it comes to those kind of comments because if you think about it men and women will never be treated equel. let me demonstrate...

if a man and a women go out on a date who is paying 80% of the time...
if man and women work at the construction site as workers who will be more efficient...
and so on (becose im a lazy bastard ill get more examples later)

not to say that women arent good at things, but since i represent the male team ill let you ladys to fill that gap your selfs
(again im lazy)

CONCLUSION:
terms like sexist or even racist are trivial and mean differently from person to person
if i make a sexist or a racist joke it doesent mean im sexist/racist
and i make them all the time EVEN TO MY OWN MOTHER and she doesn't get offended

 

[sarge1942]

the general statement has a bit of a point... if worded differently, but in that specific situation he wasn't being sexist, just a little impolite.

 

[X10J]

My answer is simple. I'm male so I can't be sure, but I think that women do want to be treated equaly, and want people in general to be treated better. Or at least I'd rather the latter, but realy, who doesn't.

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

There is a difference between being sexist and just being rude.

He was behaving the latter.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

No but it's very cliché. The statement is partly correct, although I've never met someone who asks me to do something because they were a girl. I do disagree with the idea that you should do it because she's a girl, although I would do it out of chivalry.

You shouldn't have to do something because of gender, but you should do it because it's the nice thing to do.

 

[3AM]

He is a sexist, women actually do equal the amount of work and labour as men.
even more often, they deserve to get the same amount of payment, and to be treated just like men.

Why can't they open the fucking jam jar then?! >.<

OT: Your friend's a bit of a dick, not being a gentleman and all that.

If I can't open a jar it's not because I'm expecting special treatment, it's because the cap is on too tight and I can't make it turn. If I ask your help and don't say please and thank you you should call me on that.

OP: Maybe the girl was tired or lazy or wanted to start a conversation with your friend. Not everything has to embody a grand universal truth does it? I hope not...

 

[Frotality]

its kind of an irrelevant statement for the given situation; sure, what he said has a point, but im pretty sure the girl expected him to take it not because she thinks men should do everything for her, but because he was putting his book away anyway, so might as well save herself the effort.

a bit sexist that he thinks she would be motivated by archaic gender roles, though if people do tend to ask the same thing of him, i can see what would set him off to say that.

 

[Socius]

He is a sexist, women actually do equal the amount of work and labour as men.
even more often, they deserve to get the same amount of payment, and to be treated just like men.

Why can't they open the fucking jam jar then?! >.<

OT: Your friend's a bit of a dick, not being a gentleman and all that.

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I know alot of guys who can't either, besides if you are going to look at the general streangth of women compared to the general streangth of men, if they both train equally, or don't train equally, men will be stronger due to biologics. got nothing to do with lazyness as OP directs towards.

 

[Karlaxx]

The vibe I got from that statement was that your friend was trying to be a dick about it, but he has a point in that true equality means neither positive nor negative treatment.

 

[rubisca]

One of the hallmarks of a sexist is that the person assumes another person's positive or negative traits are related to gender. In this case, the girl is just lazy. If another girl had walked by first, she would have asked the girl to take the book. If a lazy guy had been sitting there, he probably would have asked your friend to take the book.

So yeah, your friend is sexist. The situation had absolutely nothing to do with gender until he decided to bring it up.