Is Nintendo becoming irrelevant?

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spartandude

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Reported for the fact that this is basically the exact same thread you posted the other day with a title change. If you want to discuss anything else on the topic of Nintendo, use your other thread, don't start a completely new one. Especially one where you essentially reheat the same argument you made before.
Same here, especially since he makes these topics and then doesnt reply to anything at all, it is flame baiting
 

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Dead Century said:
TehCookie said:
They're not relevant for the 20-30 something "hardcore" gamer, but for kids and idorts Nintendo isn't going anywhere.
20-30 year olds actually have money to spend on video games yo. Not kids. Just saying. I enjoy my 3DS and it's titles. Just like I enjoyed the Gamecube. So yes, still relevant at age 22. Also there's plenty of adult orientated games on Nintendo systems. Kid friendly, sure. But not limited to just kids.
Those people tend to fall under the idort category, I don't find many adults who only own a WiiU. Besides just because games that are made for kids doesn't make them less fun.
 

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TehCookie said:
Dead Century said:
TehCookie said:
They're not relevant for the 20-30 something "hardcore" gamer, but for kids and idorts Nintendo isn't going anywhere.
20-30 year olds actually have money to spend on video games yo. Not kids. Just saying. I enjoy my 3DS and it's titles. Just like I enjoyed the Gamecube. So yes, still relevant at age 22. Also there's plenty of adult orientated games on Nintendo systems. Kid friendly, sure. But not limited to just kids.
Those people tend to fall under the idort category, I don't find many adults who only own a WiiU. Besides just because games that are made for kids doesn't make them less fun.
Yeah. No. Not an idort. Don't have a Wii U. 3DS is the first Nintendo console I've purchased since the Gamecube and I very much doubt Shin Megami Tensei IV is intended for kids. I enjoy RPGs, and the 3DS is great for that. But hey, whatever.
 

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I hate the word irrelevant when used in a context similar to this. Irrelevant is a definate, and implies that Nintendo have no holding, or no effect on the market what so ever. Which is wrong.

As much as you don't like them, and as much as they don't sell as well in the Western world, you cannot say it holds no relevance in the market. They have some of the biggest selling titles in the market on their consoles with the Marios, Zeldas, Pokemon and Super Smash Brothers, and with new titles for those games coming soon Nintendo is far from long gone.

Coupled with the child freindly online features, the easy downloading, the cutesy graphics, the novelty game controls and the unique social features Nintendo own a corner of the market, and will for a long time yet to come! (Especially in the East)
 

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This again man?

Come one. Make a thought provoking thread for once.

This is pretty similar to the last thread you made.
 

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Seems like it. The Wii drove away many due to its casual-centric approach, and the casuals don't really care about the WiiU - many of them don't seem to realize that it's a new console, according to Nintendo.

While the 3DS is beating the PS Vita, gaming-only handhelds become irrelevant due to the popularity of smartphones and tablets, which can provide gaming along with many other features.

They still have some very popular IPs that they are hoarding. They could become relevant by going the way of Sega.
 

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Doom972 said:
Seems like it. The Wii drove away many due to its casual-centric approach, and the casuals don't really care about the WiiU - many of them don't seem to realize that it's a new console, according to Nintendo.

While the 3DS is beating the PS Vita, gaming-only handhelds become irrelevant due to the popularity of smartphones and tablets, which can provide gaming along with many other features.

They still have some very popular IPs that they are hoarding. They could become relevant by going the way of Sega.
Sounds to me like handhelds becoming "irrelevant" is somewhat smalltalk coming from a few rather than just everyone, because if it was everyone well then Sony and Nintendo would have dropped out a long time ago.

What is all this talk of "hoarding"?, it sounds a lot like wishful thinking of personal desires, I have desires to but they usually involve me trying to give a care for illogical people, but alas that itself is illogical.
 

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Doom972 said:
gaming-only handhelds become irrelevant due to the popularity of smartphones and tablets, which can provide gaming along with many other features.
That's like saying consoles are irrelevant because PC's can provide gaming along with many other features.

I'm not saying smartphones haven't/aren't making gaming-only handhelds irrelevant just that there's little evidence to say that it is.

the image posted by Dexter111 arguably shows that the popularity of gaming-only handhelds is merely steadying itself out to Pre-DS levels.

 

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Badge Farming topic detected.
OP made one post and shows no further interest in discussion, but simply leaving an obviously inflammatory topic to farm views and posts.

Requesting lock or merge on account of the redundancy with their other thread.

OT: This is Nintendo's darkest hour, more or less.
With new DBZ Pokemon on the way, they will remain solvent for a while, but the WiiU is so far a colossal flop.
 

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wulf3n said:
Doom972 said:
gaming-only handhelds become irrelevant due to the popularity of smartphones and tablets, which can provide gaming along with many other features.
That's like saying consoles are irrelevant because PC's can provide gaming along with many other features.

I'm not saying smartphones haven't/aren't making gaming-only handhelds irrelevant just that there's little evidence to say that it is.

the image posted by Dexter111 arguably shows that the popularity of gaming-only handhelds is merely steadying itself out to Pre-DS levels.

That graph pretty much proves my point. The gaming handhelds sales are declining, while in those same years (2010+) smartphone and tablet sales are rising.
 

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I disagree. Nintendo has the casual/family niche fairly well locked down. The Xbox and PS are essentially cheap computers that you cant upgrade for 7 years, which isnt exactly a niche that needs to be cornered. For the first time in my 20 years of gaming, I dont really see much point in spending $600+ dollars to fully outfit a console (extra controllers, service plan, multiplayer access, etc) when I can spend $200 or so to upgrade my computer.

I'm not going to disagree that nintendo has made some missteps, but I think we are more likely to be buying nintendo products in 10 years than Xbox.
 

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Put it this way, As long as Nintendo has Mario, Link, Samus and the Pokemon franchise, they aren't going anywhere for a LONG time.

Hell they could survive on Pokemon alone, the amount of money them games churn out.
 

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Is Nintendo on its way to being irrelevant in the console market? I mean, the Wii U is practically dead in Europe, and the PS4 and One are coming soon. What about the people who are no longer Nintendo customers because of the Wii and now the Wii U?
No.

It would take more than the Wii U failing to take Nintendo out of contention - Nintendo has had weak console sales before and survived fine on its handhelds.

And the rebirth of the 3DS shows that it can recover from a period of weakness. It is just too soon to count them out yet.
 
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You mean how they had to back out of the handheld market because the 3DS was a total bomb and failed so epically that it-

Oh wait, the 3DS has recovered from the original slump and is now dominating the handheld market. Huh.

Not to mention, Nintendo KNOWS it doesn't have to win first place. They know that most people buy their stuff as a secondary console to compliment their PS3/Xbox so that they can play all the latest stuff while also getting to enjoy the Mario and Zelda and Smash bros games. Ninty's fine with second place.

They ain't going anywhere.
 

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Doom972 said:
That graph pretty much proves my point. The gaming handhelds sales are declining, while in those same years (2010+) smartphone and tablet sales are rising.
So? Why compare smartphone sales to console sales? Of course more people are buying smartphones; THEY'RE PHONES. People may play games on them but that's not why they buy them. People will always want a phone, not everyone wants a console- handheld or otherwise. Also, bear in mind that the 3DS isn't that far behind the DS original, and that's WITHOUT an exclusive Pokemon game at launch. What do you want to bet that, come October, the 3DS's start flying out of stores so fast that they have to start handing out padded clothing?

As long as Nintendo owns at least pokemon they'll never be irrelevant. But they don't just own pokemon...
 

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suntt123 said:
Doom972 said:
That graph pretty much proves my point. The gaming handhelds sales are declining, while in those same years (2010+) smartphone and tablet sales are rising.
So? Why compare smartphone sales to console sales? Of course more people are buying smartphones; THEY'RE PHONES. People may play games on them but that's not why they buy them. People will always want a phone, not everyone wants a console- handheld or otherwise. Also, bear in mind that the 3DS isn't that far behind the DS original, and that's WITHOUT an exclusive Pokemon game at launch. What do you want to bet that, come October, the 3DS's start flying out of stores so fast that they have to start handing out padded clothing?
I'm talking about handhelds in particular in that post.
 

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Doom972 said:
suntt123 said:
Doom972 said:
That graph pretty much proves my point. The gaming handhelds sales are declining, while in those same years (2010+) smartphone and tablet sales are rising.
So? Why compare smartphone sales to console sales? Of course more people are buying smartphones; THEY'RE PHONES. People may play games on them but that's not why they buy them. People will always want a phone, not everyone wants a console- handheld or otherwise. Also, bear in mind that the 3DS isn't that far behind the DS original, and that's WITHOUT an exclusive Pokemon game at launch. What do you want to bet that, come October, the 3DS's start flying out of stores so fast that they have to start handing out padded clothing?
I'm talking about handhelds in particular in that post.
Well, my point still stands. Phone =/= Console and consumers know it.