Is Nintendo becoming irrelevant?
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I've never been a fan of Nintendo but what I'm guessing is that just not enough people in the new market they created (casuals like elderly people) wanted to continue to commit to the brand or gaming in general and that's likely part of the reason they aren't doing as well.
For me it's a case of not caring at all about Pokemon/Mario/Zelda and so I see no reason at all to buy Nintendo products, perhaps others are starting to feel the same way?
For me it's a case of not caring at all about Pokemon/Mario/Zelda and so I see no reason at all to buy Nintendo products, perhaps others are starting to feel the same way?
If Nintendo's suffering, it won't have anything to do with the Wii.
Forumites like to harp on about Nintendo (maybe because their last two consoles haven't been as powerful as their competitors; maybe because they host the fewest new IPs; maybe just because they seem to be more "family-friendly). Yet, the Wii shifted more copies than the PS3 and the Xbox 360.
Forumites need to remember that they are not representative of the whole gaming market, of which families, casuals and younger gamers are big parts.
The WiiU certainly has some drawbacks. I don't know about its sales, or how Nintendo is doing. But, if they're suffering, the Wii won't be to blame, not even partially.
Forumites like to harp on about Nintendo (maybe because their last two consoles haven't been as powerful as their competitors; maybe because they host the fewest new IPs; maybe just because they seem to be more "family-friendly). Yet, the Wii shifted more copies than the PS3 and the Xbox 360.
Forumites need to remember that they are not representative of the whole gaming market, of which families, casuals and younger gamers are big parts.
The WiiU certainly has some drawbacks. I don't know about its sales, or how Nintendo is doing. But, if they're suffering, the Wii won't be to blame, not even partially.
People said exactly the same thing about the 3DS, that there were no decent games, that the 3D gimmick made everything crap, and that the technically superior Vita would wipe the floor with them. Then the games finally started coming out and it's a winner.
I don't know why they release their consoles so long before they release the games. But the time to judge them is when the games come out.
I don't know why they release their consoles so long before they release the games. But the time to judge them is when the games come out.
They're not relevant for the 20-30 something "hardcore" gamer, but for kids and idorts Nintendo isn't going anywhere.
I was raised in a anti-Nintendo household, and my dad always called Nintendo a kiddie console. How is that any different from now? Why are people just now realizing it?
I was raised in a anti-Nintendo household, and my dad always called Nintendo a kiddie console. How is that any different from now? Why are people just now realizing it?
First chill. Apparently I didn't make it clear enough so let me try to explain it. Idorts [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/idort] are people who own every/multiple consoles. The original meme is from a misspelling of idiot, but it doesn't mean idiot. I am not insulting them. Most gamers who own a Wii or WiiU usually have another console as well. Also you seem to think I'm anti-kid when I said Nintendo is for kids. Nintendo isn't going anywhere because they have a large market, children, which probably doesn't include OP since I assume he's in the former demographic I mentioned.KazeAizen said:
Most people who played Nintendo did so when they were kids, so they enjoyed kiddie games. You even said that. Now those people have grown up and want more mature games, while Nintendo is still making games for the family-friendly demographic like they always have been. It seems like people are confused that Nintendo is still making games for kids instead of growing up with their fanbase.
Where did you get any idea that I thought games for kids are bad? Like you said, we need to get them hooked while they're young >
... If we are constantly talking about Nintendo, no matter how bad or how good it is, then no: Nintendo aren't irrelevant.
I don't know if I would call them irrelevant, but they definitely are in an odd place right now. Game creation wise, I would certainly say they're in a rut, but new releases in key franchises are still getting them major attention. Third party support is dwindling quickly, but first party is still holding on fairly strong. Hardware creation wise, the WiiU is struggling mightily but their handhelds are still very dominant.
I would say that they are definitely a much weaker force than they used to be in the gaming landscape as a whole, but their continued strength in key areas is enough to keep them not only afloat but also successful assuming they focus on those strengths.
I would say that they are definitely a much weaker force than they used to be in the gaming landscape as a whole, but their continued strength in key areas is enough to keep them not only afloat but also successful assuming they focus on those strengths.
Yeah....No. They are currently dominating the handheld sector and the Wii U will pick up once the games come out. Why does everyone keep saying Nintendo is doomed because of the Wii U? Is everyone forgetting what happened in the first couple of years of the Playstation 3's release.
Better than Bayonetta? If so I may have to bite the bullet and pick up a Wii U earlier than expected.j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
This is too early to tell, If Nintendo is irrelevant. There is no way that Nintendo is irrelevant in the handheld and geek culture. As one can tell, they still have strong present in both market. Speaking about the WiiU, is another story. That is the part, that is too early to tell. Right now, we need to wait for the release for the main games like Mario, Super smash bros, Zelda, and ETC. Once they have been release, then we can tell if they became irrelevant.
Is it better than Bayonetta? Well you'll have to find out and pick up that WiiU, cause my sister picked up W101, I got to play it, and for the love of all that is candy and sunshine the game is simply FUN in the purest of forms.ShinyCharizard said:
OT: As for the line up on the WiiU, it'll do fine, hell it'll stay relevant especially with the demographic it has. What with SSB4 coming out, this console might just sell like hot cakes in due time.
Sorry. I'm embarrassed now. I just see too many people who are serious about kicking Nintendo out and that we should exclude kids and "casuals" I overreacted because I totally misinterpreted the post. For that I apologize.TehCookie said:
I honestly haven't even heard of this term idort and that's surprising with how often I patrol the internet. Still it is kind of funny how people are realizing in the past two gens that Nintendo hasn't decided to start cranking out the M and T rated games. At least not exclusively. I mean they are publishing other games of that rating by other companies but as for the in house stuff it still has that nice shiny E which does seem a lot less prevalent on game boxes these days and personally that makes me sad. So yeah again sorry for overreacting and missing the point. Too many other bad experiences with morons kind of knocked me out of my right mind.
This was back even further in the SNES era. I asked my dad why we had a Sega instead of a SNES like all my friends and his response was "Nintendo is for kids." Being 10 I said "But dad, I am a kid!" He laughed at me and went, "You didn't think I got the Sega for you? I bought it for me. I think he was also ahead of the elitist trend as well...KazeAizen said:
So I always saw Nintendo as a console for kids, and now people are just now realizing it makes me wonder where they've been the past 20 years. Even me as a child could see Mario was more friendly than Golden Axe. Then again gamer nostalgia is a scary thing and blinds people from reality.
Oh and don't feel bad about it, misunderstandings happen. I'm sorry you got reported for it.
20-30 year olds actually have money to spend on video games yo. Not kids. Just saying. I enjoy my 3DS and it's titles. Just like I enjoyed the Gamecube. So yes, still relevant at age 22. Also there's plenty of adult orientated games on Nintendo systems. Kid friendly, sure. But not limited to just kids.TehCookie said: