Is punishing a kid consider abuse?

[Guffe]

Depends on how you punish him.

Grounding him/her abuse? No
Making him/her pay for breaking something (smaller wirth maybe 20?)? No
Punching him/her? Yes
Throwing him/her into a wall/tree? Yes

Then we can get into the Mentally abusing which is a lot harder to draw a line with.

But basically depends if you tell your kid he/she did something wrong or putting a piece of wood up his/her a**, both are some form of punishment but very different.

 

[game-lover]

I'm assuming this topic is about spankings and the like?


To be honest... I'm rather... unsure. I say this as a child who grew up in a home where spankings happened. And where it's still happening with my siblings' children. I used to think it wasn't. After all, I turned out fine, right? So surely, it must not have been abuse.

But now... I dunno. I doubt I'll ever have children but if I ever did, I'm not sure I'd spank. Though I have thumped a kid once or twice.

 

[Adeptus Aspartem]

Because the only form of punishment is beatin your kid to death.
Groundin' it, taking away cellphone/tv/pc, cutting his pocket money etc. is not possible.

Black or White. That's why threads like these fail, because most of the people can't really discuss, they just talk one of the extremes into death without even realizing that wasn't even what was asked.

Bleh.

 

[Yopaz]

According to new laws here all kinds of punishment seems to be illegal. Even saying that if they don't do their homework they'll be grounded is illegal.

I am OK with punishment that involves taking away privileges, but I don't see the point. I only had a few of these and that was usually when me and my sisters were fighting when we were visiting someone. Smaller offences just earned us s stern talking to and that was enough. Although I am kinda scared of both my mom and dad when they get angry though so that might be what made that be enough.

Physical punishment has been illegal here for at least 40 years now (I can't remember the exact year) and I agree. Why is it assault when you punch a grown man, but tough love when you beat a kid who can't defend him/herself?

 

[FallenMessiah88]

No, punishing a child either by grounding them or taking away certain things (like computers, phones etc.), or even slapping them (though it should only be used in extreme situations IMO) is not abuse.

However, what that father did was abuse, as not only was it way to excessive, it was pretty much equivalent to a public humiliation. The worst part however, was that he shot up her laptop and then demanded that she pay him for the bullets as well as the software. Why? Because it would be the same as if I took a bat and smashed someones car until the bat broke and then told the owner of the car to pay me for a new bat.

Furthermore, I was one of those who were talking about punishing a child and beating your wife. And no, I did not say that punishing your child is equilvalent to beating your wife. I said that just because the daughter and the father have come to an agreement and the daughter has "accepted her punishment", that doesn't mean that his punishment was justified or even right. Just because someone accepts something doesn't make it right.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

What do you mean with punishing a kid?

Is that included/exclude hitting a child? cause I would see that as abuse.

spanking is abuse? Really?

Yeah... You're hitting somebody...

...strongly disagree. It isn't abuse, nobody is beating anybody else

"It isn't abuse, nobody is beating anybody else" Can you clarify that?

But may I ask how is it not abuse since you are hitting a person.

Hitting a person =/= automatically abusing someone. When spanking is done as punishment, it is different from a parent hitting a child in the face with a closed fist.

It's still hitting somebody and I personally think its pathetic since you're venting your anger at somebody that is defenseless.
Do you also think people should be able to "spank" a grown up person as punishment for misbehaving?

I wouldn't spank a child out of anger, I would do it if I felt it would be effective in disciplining the child.

As for an adult, imo I don't think it would have the same effect if I did that.....and some people like being spanked >_<

If you do not think it would have any/same affect on grown up, why do you expect it to work on kids?

Well for one, the mind of a child is different from an adult, and as I mentioned before kids don't get a sexual feeling from it.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

...really?

Spoiler: your going to compare this

..to spanking a child? Get serious

I'm not comparing the severity of whipping and spanking, I'm pointing out that neither one is punching. Your argued that spanking is not abusive because it isn't punching. Whipping is not punching either. If whipping is abusive despite not being punching, then saying something is different from punching cannot be sufficient to declare it as non-abusive. So, why isn't spanking abusive?

because generally speaking it doesn't leave scars like in the photo I showed you.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

Punishment is fine, just not anything physical. No I don't believe you are irreversibly harming your child if you smack them I just feel like it doesn't accomplish anything and you an ass for doing it. [sub](Not you as in you by the way.)[/sub]

 

[somonels]

So, Escapist, do you think punishing a child is, or should be, considered abuse?

It is, the only thing the parent can do at that this day and age is is put the kid up for adoption, but that cannot even be mentioned to him/her as it would be considered mental abuse. :ninja:

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

The subject has been tackled a lot here: Some people think that any touch is abusive.

You wonder how they got brought up.

If a child deserves a smack, they get one. If an adult enjoys that, then he gets locked up. Simples.

 

[Nikolaz72]

So, I've been following another thread wherein the original poster argued that Tommy Jordan, the man who shot up his daughter's laptop, is abusing his daughter. Disturbingly, I found that some people had the opinion punishing a child for doing something wrong is considered a form of abuse. Some even going as far as suggesting punishing a child for doing something wrong should be considered on the same level as beating a wife.

So, Escapist, do you think punishing a child is, or should be, considered abuse?

My aunt and uncle have this naughty corner system going on where they'll make their kids sit in the corner for like ten minutes to think about what they did. Basically they do what school teachers do. It doesn't work, each of their kids are sent there like 12 times a day and they never come out learning anything. They realise the system is a bust and they know that they don't face any real repercussions so they continue to be the most annoying little dickheads I've ever seen.

The kinds of people who don't think punishing children is okay are the kinds of people who create little morons like my cousins; say what you will but punishment is absolutely necessary. Even spanking is fine as long as you don't get super into it and do it more than necessary.

I wasnt spanked, I turned out fine, my sister wasnt spanked, she turned out fine. My parents werent spanked, they turned out fine, my grandparents werent spanked (Amazingly) They turned out fine, my cousins werent spanked, they turned out fine. My brother wasnt spanked either, his a cool guy. Spanking is illigal in Denmark/Sweeden and kids here are pretty well behaved, from America and England where it aint illigal I meet all theese sort of brats on the internet, now im not gonna say its because physical punishment is legal, maybe its something to do with culture, or maybe im just really, really lucky to have met very few brats irl. Personal experience right there, not gonna spank my kids thats for sure.

 

[Nikolaz72]

So, I've been following another thread wherein the original poster argued that Tommy Jordan, the man who shot up his daughter's laptop, is abusing his daughter. Disturbingly, I found that some people had the opinion punishing a child for doing something wrong is considered a form of abuse. Some even going as far as suggesting punishing a child for doing something wrong should be considered on the same level as beating a wife.

So, Escapist, do you think punishing a child is, or should be, considered abuse?

My aunt and uncle have this naughty corner system going on where they'll make their kids sit in the corner for like ten minutes to think about what they did. Basically they do what school teachers do. It doesn't work, each of their kids are sent there like 12 times a day and they never come out learning anything. They realise the system is a bust and they know that they don't face any real repercussions so they continue to be the most annoying little dickheads I've ever seen.

The kinds of people who don't think punishing children is okay are the kinds of people who create little morons like my cousins; say what you will but punishment is absolutely necessary. Even spanking is fine as long as you don't get super into it and do it more than necessary.

I wasnt spanked, I turned out fine, my sister wasnt spanked, she turned out fine. My parents werent spanked, they turned out fine, my grandparents werent spanked (Amazingly) They turned out fine, my cousins werent spanked, they turned out fine. My brother wasnt spanked either, his a cool guy. Spanking is illigal in Denmark/Sweeden and kids here are pretty well behaved, from America and England where it aint illigal I meet all theese sort of brats on the internet, now im not gonna say its because physical punishment is legal, maybe its something to do with culture, or maybe im just really, really lucky to have met very few brats irl. Personal experience right there, not gonna spank my kids thats for sure.

 

[Nikolaz72]

So, I've been following another thread wherein the original poster argued that Tommy Jordan, the man who shot up his daughter's laptop, is abusing his daughter. Disturbingly, I found that some people had the opinion punishing a child for doing something wrong is considered a form of abuse. Some even going as far as suggesting punishing a child for doing something wrong should be considered on the same level as beating a wife.

So, Escapist, do you think punishing a child is, or should be, considered abuse?

My aunt and uncle have this naughty corner system going on where they'll make their kids sit in the corner for like ten minutes to think about what they did. Basically they do what school teachers do. It doesn't work, each of their kids are sent there like 12 times a day and they never come out learning anything. They realise the system is a bust and they know that they don't face any real repercussions so they continue to be the most annoying little dickheads I've ever seen.

The kinds of people who don't think punishing children is okay are the kinds of people who create little morons like my cousins; say what you will but punishment is absolutely necessary. Even spanking is fine as long as you don't get super into it and do it more than necessary.

I wasnt spanked, I turned out fine, my sister wasnt spanked, she turned out fine. My parents werent spanked, they turned out fine, my grandparents werent spanked (Amazingly) They turned out fine, my cousins werent spanked, they turned out fine. My brother wasnt spanked either, his a cool guy. Spanking is illigal in Denmark/Sweeden and kids here are pretty well behaved, from America and England where it aint illigal I meet all theese sort of brats on the internet, now im not gonna say its because physical punishment is legal, maybe its something to do with culture, or maybe im just really, really lucky to have met very few brats irl. Personal experience right there, not gonna spank my kids thats for sure.

 

[Nikolaz72]

So, I've been following another thread wherein the original poster argued that Tommy Jordan, the man who shot up his daughter's laptop, is abusing his daughter. Disturbingly, I found that some people had the opinion punishing a child for doing something wrong is considered a form of abuse. Some even going as far as suggesting punishing a child for doing something wrong should be considered on the same level as beating a wife.

So, Escapist, do you think punishing a child is, or should be, considered abuse?

My aunt and uncle have this naughty corner system going on where they'll make their kids sit in the corner for like ten minutes to think about what they did. Basically they do what school teachers do. It doesn't work, each of their kids are sent there like 12 times a day and they never come out learning anything. They realise the system is a bust and they know that they don't face any real repercussions so they continue to be the most annoying little dickheads I've ever seen.

The kinds of people who don't think punishing children is okay are the kinds of people who create little morons like my cousins; say what you will but punishment is absolutely necessary. Even spanking is fine as long as you don't get super into it and do it more than necessary.

I wasnt spanked, I turned out fine, my sister wasnt spanked, she turned out fine. My parents werent spanked, they turned out fine, my grandparents werent spanked (Amazingly) They turned out fine, my cousins werent spanked, they turned out fine. My brother wasnt spanked either, his a cool guy. Spanking is illigal in Denmark/Sweeden and kids here are pretty well behaved, from America and England where it aint illigal I meet all theese sort of brats on the internet, now im not gonna say its because physical punishment is legal, maybe its something to do with culture, or maybe im just really, really lucky to have met very few brats irl. Personal experience right there, not gonna spank my kids thats for sure.

 

[Nikolaz72]

So, I've been following another thread wherein the original poster argued that Tommy Jordan, the man who shot up his daughter's laptop, is abusing his daughter. Disturbingly, I found that some people had the opinion punishing a child for doing something wrong is considered a form of abuse. Some even going as far as suggesting punishing a child for doing something wrong should be considered on the same level as beating a wife.

So, Escapist, do you think punishing a child is, or should be, considered abuse?

My aunt and uncle have this naughty corner system going on where they'll make their kids sit in the corner for like ten minutes to think about what they did. Basically they do what school teachers do. It doesn't work, each of their kids are sent there like 12 times a day and they never come out learning anything. They realise the system is a bust and they know that they don't face any real repercussions so they continue to be the most annoying little dickheads I've ever seen.

The kinds of people who don't think punishing children is okay are the kinds of people who create little morons like my cousins; say what you will but punishment is absolutely necessary. Even spanking is fine as long as you don't get super into it and do it more than necessary.

I wasnt spanked, I turned out fine, my sister wasnt spanked, she turned out fine. My parents werent spanked, they turned out fine, my grandparents werent spanked (Amazingly) They turned out fine, my cousins werent spanked, they turned out fine. My brother wasnt spanked either, his a cool guy. Spanking is illigal in Denmark/Sweeden and kids here are pretty well behaved, from America and England where it aint illigal I meet all theese sort of brats on the internet, now im not gonna say its because physical punishment is legal, maybe its something to do with culture, or maybe im just really, really lucky to have met very few brats irl. Personal experience right there, not gonna spank my kids thats for sure.

 

[Nikolaz72]

So, I've been following another thread wherein the original poster argued that Tommy Jordan, the man who shot up his daughter's laptop, is abusing his daughter. Disturbingly, I found that some people had the opinion punishing a child for doing something wrong is considered a form of abuse. Some even going as far as suggesting punishing a child for doing something wrong should be considered on the same level as beating a wife.

So, Escapist, do you think punishing a child is, or should be, considered abuse?

My aunt and uncle have this naughty corner system going on where they'll make their kids sit in the corner for like ten minutes to think about what they did. Basically they do what school teachers do. It doesn't work, each of their kids are sent there like 12 times a day and they never come out learning anything. They realise the system is a bust and they know that they don't face any real repercussions so they continue to be the most annoying little dickheads I've ever seen.

The kinds of people who don't think punishing children is okay are the kinds of people who create little morons like my cousins; say what you will but punishment is absolutely necessary. Even spanking is fine as long as you don't get super into it and do it more than necessary.

I wasnt spanked, I turned out fine, my sister wasnt spanked, she turned out fine. My parents werent spanked, they turned out fine, my grandparents werent spanked (Amazingly) They turned out fine, my cousins werent spanked, they turned out fine. My brother wasnt spanked either, his a cool guy. Spanking is illigal in Denmark/Sweeden and kids here are pretty well behaved, from America and England where it aint illigal I meet all theese sort of brats on the internet, now im not gonna say its because physical punishment is legal, maybe its something to do with culture, or maybe im just really, really lucky to have met very few brats irl. Personal experience right there, not gonna spank my kids thats for sure.

 

[EternalFacepalm]

...strongly disagree. It isn't abuse, nobody is beating anybody else

Except the parent beating the child. Uhm.

OT: Some punishing is, but not all. Shooting a laptop isn't abuse, it's just silly, and he shouldn't be allowed to wield a gun.

 

[EternalFacepalm]

...strongly disagree. It isn't abuse, nobody is beating anybody else

Except the parent beating the child. Uhm.

OT: Some punishing is, but not all. Shooting a laptop isn't abuse, it's just silly, and he shouldn't be allowed to wield a gun.