Is there any REASON gay marriage is wrong?
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EVEN IF the main opposition to gay marriage, the Christian church, IS right and God exists meaning homosexuality is in fact a sin, I wouldn't imagine someone who is responsible for creating everything ever (including hmosexuality :/) would really care about what people feel for each other. Comes across as petty to me.
EVEN IF the main opposition to gay marriage, the Christian church, IS right and God exists meaning homosexuality is in fact a sin, I wouldn't imagine someone who is responsible for creating everything ever (including hmosexuality :/) would really care about what people feel for each other. Comes across as petty to me.
Let me begin by saying that I'm not against gay union but after reading the thread I think people have missed a point.
It is the religions decision it does not matter how bigoted or discriminating you think they are its their choice and their religion. Marriage is a religious ceremony, so theres your reason. You don't have the right to change their religion or beliefs the same as they don't have the right to change yours.
The bigger problem is the lack of rights the civil union instills. If this were to meet the standards of a religious marriage than it would be all good.
As it stands you are put out, yes, but to demand marriage is wrong. People were talking about "the good book" and how you can't listen to all of it. If that is the case and you disagree with that scripture why in the world are you pursuing a union under it.
I don't want flames either this is just how I see it I am neither Christian nor homosexual so I may have missed the point.
It is the religions decision it does not matter how bigoted or discriminating you think they are its their choice and their religion. Marriage is a religious ceremony, so theres your reason. You don't have the right to change their religion or beliefs the same as they don't have the right to change yours.
The bigger problem is the lack of rights the civil union instills. If this were to meet the standards of a religious marriage than it would be all good.
As it stands you are put out, yes, but to demand marriage is wrong. People were talking about "the good book" and how you can't listen to all of it. If that is the case and you disagree with that scripture why in the world are you pursuing a union under it.
I don't want flames either this is just how I see it I am neither Christian nor homosexual so I may have missed the point.
It does, it just doesn't use the words "gay" or "homosexual".Bobbity said:Because the Bible said so. Well, actually, it doesn't, but you know those bloody Americans
Also, it's in Leviticus, and I've already commented on that little tidbit (viz. why the fuck are Christians basing any of their morality on the Old Goddamn Testament? Jesus was always getting down the Pharisees' throats for how hardcore they were on that stuff. Am I seriously the only guy that noticed this?).
To retort what the above person has said (before the last one). Im not forcing it down your throat, im offering a different point through a religious viewpoint. Im not telling you to accept it, im saying that is what i beleive. To reply to the last one, thats a great point as well, not everyone on the planet believes the same thing. This is what i believe, that Marriage should be between a man and a woman. End of story.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
Contradiction said:
Too damn bad, you got flames anyway!GenericPCUser said:
Actually, I've seen this argument repeated often and I'm using your post to draw attention to my logic.
There is no objective reason, because "Right" and "Wrong" are subjective themselves. Personally I believe it should be legal by default.
My hands are aching to start a long rant about society's and religion's (though it is society again who is enforcing the religious belief, so I guess it doesn't count) involvement in this, but I'll leave it as it is. Oh and I also want to note that I am against marriage, but even homosexual people aren't above desiring it, I guess.
My hands are aching to start a long rant about society's and religion's (though it is society again who is enforcing the religious belief, so I guess it doesn't count) involvement in this, but I'll leave it as it is. Oh and I also want to note that I am against marriage, but even homosexual people aren't above desiring it, I guess.
Hmm, this is a question I've been thinking about for a while. I am unable to think of any concrete reasoning but my current theory is this. Marriage is primarily a religious act. As christianity and many other religions teach that it is wrong for two men to have sex with one another, and the fact that many believe marriage before God is not complete until the marriage is consummated through sexual intercourse, therefore it could be said that God doesn't think gay people should be allowed to marry. Now the real problems come when it becomes a legal aspect and when the thought of marriage became an everyday ideal rather then specific to certain religions. Now two atheists can be married legally by the state or even the church in some cases. There are two arguments to this that I infer from my theory:
1. Religion and politics should always be kept seperate and thus marriage in the eyes of God and being legally married should be two different things. That way anyone who wants a legal marriage can have one as really should be anyones right. Keep in mind that this means they would not be married in the eyes of God. However why anyone would wish to be a part of a religion that condemns them for their lifestyle is far beyond me so I'll leave it at that.
2. As marriage was a primarily religious act and as I mentioned there is little reason to conform to a religion that you do not follow. Those who do not believe in these religions shouldn't get married. Unfortunately marriage has become so mainstreamed now that saying that might make me sound like I'm am trying to take away a right that belongs to everyone but realistically what make a married couple so much closer then their counter parts who are non religious and are not married.
I personally would have no issues with never getting married as really to me marriage is only a label accompanied by generally false promises and high expectations. Its all nice and lovey dovey but in the end if I am with the person I love most in the world I'm not going to care whether she is a Mrs or a Miss.
1. Religion and politics should always be kept seperate and thus marriage in the eyes of God and being legally married should be two different things. That way anyone who wants a legal marriage can have one as really should be anyones right. Keep in mind that this means they would not be married in the eyes of God. However why anyone would wish to be a part of a religion that condemns them for their lifestyle is far beyond me so I'll leave it at that.
2. As marriage was a primarily religious act and as I mentioned there is little reason to conform to a religion that you do not follow. Those who do not believe in these religions shouldn't get married. Unfortunately marriage has become so mainstreamed now that saying that might make me sound like I'm am trying to take away a right that belongs to everyone but realistically what make a married couple so much closer then their counter parts who are non religious and are not married.
I personally would have no issues with never getting married as really to me marriage is only a label accompanied by generally false promises and high expectations. Its all nice and lovey dovey but in the end if I am with the person I love most in the world I'm not going to care whether she is a Mrs or a Miss.
lol Leviticus. That shit stopped being relevant since Hebrews 7:18:
"The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless"
There's also Colossians 2:14:
"having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross."
Leviticus in the New Testament canon is about relevant as the 18th Amendment.
"The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless"
There's also Colossians 2:14:
"having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross."
Leviticus in the New Testament canon is about relevant as the 18th Amendment.
Um, I am sorry to inform you of this, but the belief that gays corrupt children is as homophobic as it gets.Dags90 said:
I was thinking of putting "if it isn't obvious this is sarcasm I give up" in teeny tiny font at the end, but decided against it. I figured the initial caps and Tyra avatar were enough. That a position like that isn't immediately dismissed as anything but trolling or sarcasm says a lot.summerof2010 said:
Its a social taboo that's been in place for hundreds of years. You can't destroy it.
Asking this sort of question is like asking "why do people have a problem with [insert minority]"
it'd be fantastic if everyone got along, but they don't and never will.
Asking this sort of question is like asking "why do people have a problem with [insert minority]"
it'd be fantastic if everyone got along, but they don't and never will.
Actually, marriage was not always religious in nature. In classical Greece, often times the act of marriage is simply a matter of acknowledging someone to be your spouse. That's it. This is very common in plenty of cultures.
As such, that particular line of reasoning falls apart.
As such, that particular line of reasoning falls apart.
Dude, he's not serious.Russian_Assassin said:
At least I'm pretty sure he's not.
At least I hope not...