It is our light, not our darkness that we fear

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Charisma

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Chonker said:
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear... And when it is gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear is gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
God I loved that book.

So much.
 

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I don't have anything too constructive to say here, but this made me think.

It's nice to have a philisophical point every once and awhile, so thanks. :)
 

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Skeleon said:
Maybe I'm interpreting this poem too much, but somehow it has a very egotistical vibe about itself.
We're not supposed to show any consideration towards others because, in the end, it's good for them. What?
The way I read it, it sounds like a request for elbow-mentality, because it's better for society in the long run (captalism in poem-format).
While I partially agree, I don't think it's good poetry-material.
A bit too much interpretation maybe, but you are right. It's very egotistical and your point about poetic capitalism made me giggle. I honestly put it up because it's a great inspirational speech. you ever seen Coach Carter or Akhellah and the Bee? They both use this.

Taern said:
I don't have anything too constructive to say here, but this made me think.

It's nice to have a philisophical point every once and awhile, so thanks. :)
Welcome
 

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I understand what people mean by good actions but why do they think those actions pertain t goodness, the only reason for laws and rules are for a functioning society, we do not kill so that people do not fear us and become chaotic, we do not steal because the idea of ownership makes people feel more powerful compared to others, and ambition is what drives societ. I could go on but i think my point is across. Just to summarise my opinion, there is no such thing as light and dark when it comes to morality except when placed in societal/legal instances, you say you have not stood up to defend another but why should you, we consider ourselves better than the animals around us when the only thing which truly defines us is that we believe ourselves to be better, and yet the fact remains that when this charade of civility falls down all our morals and ethics go with it e.g. loot, rape, murder.
OT yes i have stood down out of fear but i acknowledge its source (survival of the fittest) and only act when i cannot deny the nature i have been given by my parents and society or when it benefits me in some way.
 

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Panzer_God said:
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
That line is what hits hardest for me. You seriously dont know how stupid that line is. The power that lies inside me, that deep-seated insanity. It truly is something to be feared. Ive only let go of the Lycan a few times, and each time its been enough to scare me shitless. I hate it, I hate losing control, I hate my anger, and most of all I hate what I become. Its a primal thing, the Lycan. You cant control it, you cant tame it, you cant tell it when to come back, all you can do is let it free until all the hate and anger you've been harboring is burned out. Its truly, truly a frightening experience, and I hope no one else here wishes for that kind of power.
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I'm afraid that you are mixing up two parts of the human mind. That isn't power, so much as it is your true, animalistic, instictive behavior. Our powers, as humans, is that we can shape, we can bend what we have around us. We have technology, we have life-changing ideas, that is our "power." What you are speaking of isn't so much the power they are speaking of, but rather the part inside you that seems strong, but really is just brute force. The instincts inside of yourself that drive you to stay alive, to pursue to live no matter the odds. That isn't power, it is merely a defense mechanism inside all living creatures to stay alive. Don't be afraid of it, just be afraid that it can take over. But at the same time, don't fear it, but keep it in check, because without it, you will probably lose your drive to live entirely.

No matter how much to hate it, you need it to keep on living...
 

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Panzer_God said:
ElephantGuts said:
Panzer_God said:
ElephantGuts said:
I disagree.
You do that
Was that remark intended to be antagonistic? I was simply stating my opinion that I disagree with the poem. I apologize if you take offense to that.
It was meant to be dismissive, not antagonistic.
To dismiss me is to antagonize me, sir. You'd best remember that lest you make me say something to get myself another warning from the mods (which probably wouldn't be a warning actually). This thread has already cost me dearly...
 

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While the sentiment of not doing enough and the regret associated with said sentiment are ever-present, one also has to entertain the potential downfalls of doing too much.

Life is not without consequence, and the only deciding factor between it and success is simply a universal game of Russian roulette. Always trying to do something will yield many a success, but at the same time, will also create consequence; and depending on the scope of the aforementioned consequence, one may end up hurting those we try to help, if not ourselves.

So despite my many regrets, they are always offset by the countless times that things could have gone horribly wrong.

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

~ William Butler Yeats
 

AkJay

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I heard this once.. i think it was in Coach Carter with Samuel L. Jackson, but i can't be sure.
 

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la-le-lu-li-lo said:
I like to embrace a happy medium between modesty and confidence.
I prefer to embrace confidence, since I kinda see that as between modesty and arrogance. Of course, I'm not the most vocal person, so I let my body language project that confidence.

Though it is weird how people tell me their first impression of me was intimidation. Makes me wonder if I'm projecting the wrong message, or if people are just wary of confidence...
 

la-le-lu-li-lo

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Jedoro said:
I prefer to embrace confidence, since I kinda see that as between modesty and arrogance. Of course, I'm not the most vocal person, so I let my body language project that confidence.

Though it is weird how people tell me their first impression of me was intimidation. Makes me wonder if I'm projecting the wrong message, or if people are just wary of confidence...
Fair enough. I suppose what I should have said is that I project confidence in my body languege and style of clothing, I guess, but am still modest.

I've been told I'm intimidating too. It's weird, because I don't see it at all. Oh well.
 

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la-le-lu-li-lo said:
Jedoro said:
I prefer to embrace confidence, since I kinda see that as between modesty and arrogance. Of course, I'm not the most vocal person, so I let my body language project that confidence.

Though it is weird how people tell me their first impression of me was intimidation. Makes me wonder if I'm projecting the wrong message, or if people are just wary of confidence...
Fair enough. I suppose what I should have said is that I project confidence in my body languege and style of clothing, I guess, but am still modest.

I've been told I'm intimidating too. It's weird, because I don't see it at all. Oh well.
Intimidation comes from how confident you are. Maybe the people who see you as intimidating do so because they, themselves lack the confidence? I mean I guess it would make sense. Honestly though, I enjoy the company of others. I'm not very social around people I don't know, I sort of lack confidence myself, but when I DO get to know people, I'm wuite confident. Also, I dont think anyone's intimidating at ALL, unless they seem like they are TRYING to be. I can sort of read into people's words and actions...
 

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AkJay said:
I heard this once.. i think it was in Coach Carter with Samuel L. Jackson, but i can't be sure.
Yeah, also in Akeelah and the Bee
 

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Jedoro said:
la-le-lu-li-lo said:
I like to embrace a happy medium between modesty and confidence.
I prefer to embrace confidence, since I kinda see that as between modesty and arrogance.
I honestly jump straight to arrogence.
 

Merteg

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I don't think that's in human nature.

If you got it, flaunt it. If you don't got it? Your worthless. Now THAT'S human nature.
 

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Panzer_God said:
Jedoro said:
Hell, it's because of my regrets that I try to apply the ODST motto "We go feet first" whenever faced with a decision.
I like that, mine is "Live for Today, Tomorrow Means Nothing"
Mine are "Memento mori" and "The Past has already been, the Future is unknown, but Today you're alive. Live."
 

Panzer_God

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Merteg said:
I don't think that's in human nature.

If you got it, flaunt it. If you don't got it? Your worthless. Now THAT'S human nature.
That's pretty much what it's saying. Except it says that everyone's got it, they just pretend they don't
 

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LuzGutierrez said:
Intimidation comes from how confident you are. Maybe the people who see you as intimidating do so because they, themselves lack the confidence? I mean I guess it would make sense. Honestly though, I enjoy the company of others. I'm not very social around people I don't know, I sort of lack confidence myself, but when I DO get to know people, I'm wuite confident. Also, I dont think anyone's intimidating at ALL, unless they seem like they are TRYING to be. I can sort of read into people's words and actions...
Yeah, I figured people were just naturally afraid of confidence, to some degree. And even if someone tries to be intimidating, like throwing their weight around and stuff, I just laugh on the inside.
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Jedoro said:
la-le-lu-li-lo said:
I like to embrace a happy medium between modesty and confidence.
I prefer to embrace confidence, since I kinda see that as between modesty and arrogance.
I honestly jump straight to arrogence.
See, arrogance kinda involves talking to people...