It's been confirmed; Xbox one wil block used games.

[Yopaz]

Isn't it a bit fishy that the new of EA partnering with Microsoft is in such close proximity to this news? I smell a conspiracy.

EA dropped their Online Pass system, and now it turns out that the new Xbox is going to charge for used games as standard.

I fucking knew something like this was in the works.

You know... I remember roughly what your comment in the article about EA dropping online passes and well, it seems like that post was spot on.

OT: You should change the title of the thread, it's kinda misleading/inaccurate since they wont block used game, but charge for the use of them. They are making it so that buying used games are more expensive than new games so it's some grade A bullshit right there though.

Now let's read what the article says. They will charge a fee for playing second hand games. OK, I can grudgingly accept that... The fee will be the same as for a brand new game... wait WHAT?! I have to pay the price of a brand new game to play a used one on top of what it cost to buy the used game? What the fuck are you thinking Microsoft?

It will uninstall from the first console once you install it on the new one? Despite that technically it's been paid for twice?

The only "good" thing I read in this article is that they do allow people to bring the games to friends and play on their console without the fee as long as you sign in to your own account. Now these news have gone from being shit to being shit with sprinkles on it. Not the good kind of sprinkles though.

 

[waj9876]

Now all Sony has to do is not shoot themselves in the foot, and they'll be top dog this generation. And now the Wii U seems a lot better now that this has been revealed. I'm going with Nintendo and Sony this generation. Like I do every generation.

Speaking of dogs, there was one good thing that came out of this conference. Collar Duty. Look it up. It's amazing.

 

[LT Cannibal 68]

According to This [http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/] article.

The new xbox will require a fee for you to play pre-owned games...

Oh fuck off Microsoft !

because that's speculation it isn't confirmed in the least they're going off a wired article, how about this for an idea?
you buy your game new and you get your cd key because that's what it is, and you put it in and you can play the game with no disc but if for example you lend a friend the game it installs normally but he still needs the disk? That is how i'd do it.

EDIT: straight from GS president
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2013/05/21/gamestop-president-tony-bartel-talks-xbox-one-playstation-4-used-games-and-pre-orders/

EDIT 2: IT'S CONFIRMED NO FEE STRAIGHT FROM MICROSOFT. the article you posted has been debunked, put down your pitchforks lads.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-always-on-drm-used-games-faq/

 

[VoidWanderer]

To think... if Microsoft hadn't changed their CPU technology, because Sony certainly showed how well it worked for the PS3, and allowed backwards compatibility, they could've won this...

I am glad I wasn't going to bother pre-ordering the Xbox1, especially now!

 

[Gothproxy]

Microsoft has until the launch of the Xbox One to either do away with the used game fee or, as some here have suggested, allow the game to play from the disc but charge if you want to play strictly from the HDD (with a used copy). Otherwise, this is going to blow up so badly in their faces Microsoft will think they are Atari from the 80s.

No gamer that I know (and I work at a GameStop...part-time) will buy this. I wont buy this. Why? Because in the past couple of years, games have been hit or miss as to whether they are good or outright crap (with most of the time being 'meh'). I will not buy a game at $60 (or probably more is what I'm sensing) if there is the slightest chance that it will be crap. All the pre-rendered game play videos, reviews, magazine articles will mean NOTHING to me if I have to gamble with my money on an overpriced game that I can't return or trade or sell or whatever if it does turn out to be lousy.

Now, if and when I decide to jump into the next generation of consoles (and just because I work at a GameStop doesn't mean I will), I'm leaning towards the PS4....but only if they enable that cloud service that will allow me to buy (reduced price) PSone, PS2, etc games and play. Sorry Nintendo but the WiiU just isn't up to snuff (unless the rumored SMT x Fire Emblem game comes out for it and then....maybe). And Xbox? Sorry, old boy but your daddy done screwed up big time.

Come to think of it...now that I'll be saving so much money by NOT buying an Xbox One, maybe I'll get that PSVita to go along with the PS4....hmmm.

 

[Gothproxy]

EDIT 2: IT'S CONFIRMED NO FEE STRAIGHT FROM MICROSOFT. the article you posted has been debunked, put down your pitchforks lads.

And where did you find out this info? Post a link? (a reliable link?)

 

[Distance_warrior]

This makes no sense whatsoever. Not even to stem used game sales. There is now nothing stopping people from buying the game used paying the fee then returning for a full refund. What I think will happen is brick and mortar games store will drop the full refund to a 75% refund. This will essentially mean that even with new games the same price as used they will still be 50% cheaper and not a cent of that will go to developers.

No one will build games for it because the devs will get paid for 1 copy that then is installed on 50 consoles. there is no way they could make a profit.

 

[LT Cannibal 68]

EDIT 2: IT'S CONFIRMED NO FEE STRAIGHT FROM MICROSOFT. the article you posted has been debunked, put down your pitchforks lads.

And where did you find out this info? Post a link? (a reliable link?)

eited my post sorry forgot to add link lol

 

[maninahat]

Here is what worries me: now that xbox announced it, is there now a danger that Sony will as well? It seems beneficial in the short run to offer a better service (one that lets you freely play 2nd hand games) and attracting more customers, but I can imagine Sony as seeing this as an opportunity to pilot their own anti-2nd hand policy, knowing that they won't lose customers to xbox.

 

[thiosk]

There is really no reason at all not to just use steam.

 

[Gothproxy]

EDIT 2: IT'S CONFIRMED NO FEE STRAIGHT FROM MICROSOFT. the article you posted has been debunked, put down your pitchforks lads.

And where did you find out this info? Post a link? (a reliable link?)

eited my post sorry forgot to add link lol

That's cool. I read the article and it only makes mention that Microsoft had "no confirmation" on the subject. Also, thanks to Jim Sterling, I saw the twitter posts from "Microsoft support" that said there will be NO fees. But that was at least 9 hours ago and has not been confirmed or denied that the twitter account is legit or if the tweet was Microsoft's official stand. There is too much smoke-and-mirrors play going on here that Microsoft could easily clear up....but they haven't. Why not? Are they testing the waters to see what gamers think of the idea? Could be (but that would be putting a whole lot into the idea that they would do such a thing as test the waters), but I think not.

To be honest, I don't think Microsoft themselves know what they are going to do about used games for the Xbox One. As I said in my original reply we'll just have to see, but if things stand as they are now, I'm recommending people stay away (personally, not at my job...which I have to do what I'm told....which is usually ok....usually) =D

 

[LT Cannibal 68]

EDIT 2: IT'S CONFIRMED NO FEE STRAIGHT FROM MICROSOFT. the article you posted has been debunked, put down your pitchforks lads.

And where did you find out this info? Post a link? (a reliable link?)

eited my post sorry forgot to add link lol

That's cool. I read the article and it only makes mention that Microsoft had "no confirmation" on the subject. Also, thanks to Jim Sterling, I saw the twitter posts from "Microsoft support" that said there will be NO fees. But that was at least 9 hours ago and has not been confirmed or denied that the twitter account is legit or if the tweet was Microsoft's official stand. There is too much smoke-and-mirrors play going on here that Microsoft could easily clear up....but they haven't. Why not? Are they testing the waters to see what gamers think of the idea? Could be (but that would be putting a whole lot into the idea that they would do such a thing as test the waters), but I think not.

To be honest, I don't think Microsoft themselves know what they are going to do about used games for the Xbox One. As I said in my original reply we'll just have to see, but if things stand as they are now, I'm recommending people stay away (personally, not at my job...which I have to do what I'm told....which is usually ok....usually) =D

after the monsoon of shit they got i'm pretty sure they'll back off on the idea of the fee. A good way to implement the fee however would be so that the fee only applies for users who want to play off the hdd, that i can agree with.

 

[Happiness Assassin]

I just wanna point out that this happened:

Spoiler: Sony and Microsoft's stocks.

And as for blocking used games? And really, their entire reveal? Sony's won this generation, hands fucking down.

And I just wanna point out two things:

1. The change in Microsoft stock was .19% or in practical terms, nothing. That change is so minuscule that it is more likely attributed to market fluctuations than anything relating to video games.

2. Sony stock took off for a completely different reason. It has to do with rumors of them spinning off their movie and music divisions. If you want to know more, just google Sony or Dan Loeb for that matter.

People seem to forget that the video games industry is relatively small compared to what these respective companies are actually worth. The video games industry has little to no effect on the stock prices of these companies.

OT: That rumor has been proven false from a variety of sources provided and even the link in the OP is sketchy on the issue.

 

[Altorin]

This makes no sense whatsoever. Not even to stem used game sales. There is now nothing stopping people from buying the game used paying the fee then returning for a full refund. What I think will happen is brick and mortar games store will drop the full refund to a 75% refund. This will essentially mean that even with new games the same price as used they will still be 50% cheaper and not a cent of that will go to developers.

No one will build games for it because the devs will get paid for 1 copy that then is installed on 50 consoles. there is no way they could make a profit.

the "fee" in this case is the full price of the game, and gamestop will probably not stock used Xbone games, if they don't boycott the system entirely

I just wanna point out that this happened:

Spoiler: Sony and Microsoft's stocks.

And as for blocking used games? And really, their entire reveal? Sony's won this generation, hands fucking down.

And I just wanna point out two things:

1. The change in Microsoft stock was .19% or in practical terms, nothing. That change is so minuscule that it is more likely attributed to market fluctuations than anything relating to video games.

2. Sony stock took off for a completely different reason. It has to do with rumors of them spinning off their movie and music divisions. If you want to know more, just google Sony or Dan Loeb for that matter.

People seem to forget that the video games industry is relatively small compared to what these respective companies are actually worth. The video games industry has little to no effect on the stock prices of these companies.

OT: That rumor has been proven false from a variety of sources provided and even the link in the OP is sketchy on the issue.

Miniscule or not, having a stock dip at all when you announce something isn't good - ideally their stock should have risen, not fallen.

 

[loa]

They should've called it dreamcast 2 except that the dreamcast was actually awesome.

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

Well, it's not necessarily Always-Online, which is something even the most uninformed members of the gaming masses would be annoyed about, but for those who care about their freedoms, restricting used games is a pretty grave decision.

EDIT: Oh, damn they still have some common sense after all. I guess I'm down to "encouraging and making more available, always-online components" as the worst offence the X1 can offer.

 

[TIMESWORDSMAN]

Well, still don't pay as much as full retail, and it looks like I can just borrow a disk from a friend and have the game forever. I can see this working.

Granted, the new Xbox is not on my list of things that make me go "eeeeeeooooooooYOW!". This list is is very short, and consists mostly of space missions, a Lancia Stratos Zero, and Tali. So I probably won't be hanging out outside Kmart to get one.

...Maybe I can get one used?

 

[kickyourass]

The article is really vague and kinda second hand with its information so I'm a bit hesitant to believe it, but if this is true then there's no way in hell I'm buying this console, that is complete and utter horseshit I honestly do not know how it could be seen as otherwise.

 

[leeprice133]

Well, I think I should thank Microsoft for making my next-gen console purchasing decision much, much easier. With only the Playstation 4 and WiiU to think about, the debate for system I should get has just been moved into which system I should get first (I always get two each generation), which will largely be based on what Nintendo's release schedule is for first-party titles on WiiU. Still, something tells me I should be thinking about how soon I want a PS4.

I'm not sure I think of the WiiU is a next-generation console - technically it seems to be only slightly beyond the 360 and PS3. Seems more like Nintendo have only just fully joined the current gen.