It's not Football, it's Soccer

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Tankdown

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In the text quoted by the OP it states that both words were used interchangeably with each other, defeating the point of this thread.

Just out of interest though (feeding off the whole terminology war): why do Americans place the month before the day when abbreviating dates to numbers (i.e 2/15 for the 15th of February)?
 

Pimppeter2

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Tankdown said:
In the text quoted by the OP it states that both words were used interchangeably with each other, defeating the point of this thread.
The title refers to the argument of Football vs Soccer.
 

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Indeed, until the last few decades, even Englishmen would routinely refer to their favorite pastime as soccer, just as often as they would say football.

Clive Toye, an Englishman who moved to the U.S. and became known as the father of modern American soccer, bringing Brazilian legend Pele to play for the New York Cosmos, takes up the story.

?Soccer is a synonym for football,? said Toye, who helped launch the North American Soccer League in the late 1960s. ?And it has been used as such for more years than I can count. When I was a kid in England and grabbed a ball to go out and play ? I would just as easily have said: ?Let?s have a game of soccer? as I would use the word ?football? instead. And I didn?t start it.?
According to this, it's both.
 

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Pimppeter2 said:
Tankdown said:
In the text quoted by the OP it states that both words were used interchangeably with each other, defeating the point of this thread.
The title refers to the argument of Football vs Soccer.
Exactly...
 

Jadak

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Calling it "Football" has always struck me as silly anyways. Not that Soccer is a great name or anything, but at least it's a name. Football, is a description, not a name. Would I be laughed at if I went around calling Hockey "Stickpuck"? Probably, and rightly so. Whether it be Soccer or something else, give things names.
 
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rokkolpo said:
Radeonx said:
And even so, since America is clearly the greatest country on Earth, and we speak American, it is called soccer. I don't care if it is the World's most popular sport, it's soccer.
[sub][sub][sub][sub][sub][sub]Yaaay sarcasm![/sub][/sub][/sub][/sub][/sub][/sub]
i had to quote you to be able to read that. thank god.
Quote what? He is totally right America is the greatest. I bleed red white and blue...and apple pie!

[sub][sub][sub]also sarcasm (this is fun!)[/sub][/sub][/sub]

OT: I don't care either way. I call it soccer, but I call goalies keepers for some reason...
 

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sgtshock said:
This makes me wish I knew a British person, just so I could flaunt this to them.
Hello, I'm British
But that doesn't really matter since I loathe football/soccer with the fire of a thousand suns. I also hate almost everything British, except for The Clash and Gallows, and can't wait to get out of here
 

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Pimppeter2 said:
[HEADING=2]Not Football, Soccer[/HEADING]

No country has been snootier toward the USA?s use of the term ?soccer? than England. Before the Group C opener between the two sides in Rustenburg, the Sun newspaper even ran a spoof front page urging Fabio Capello?s side to win the ?soccerball world series.?

But let?s take a halftime break here.

Coupled with their team?s humiliating exit from the World Cup it might be another rude awakening to the Brits that soccer isn?t an American term, it is actually an English one. And it isn?t some modern fad that shows disrespect to the world?s most popular sport, it dates back to the earliest days of the game?s professional history.

Indeed, until the last few decades, even Englishmen would routinely refer to their favorite pastime as soccer, just as often as they would say football.

Clive Toye, an Englishman who moved to the U.S. and became known as the father of modern American soccer, bringing Brazilian legend Pele to play for the New York Cosmos, takes up the story.

?Soccer is a synonym for football,? said Toye, who helped launch the North American Soccer League in the late 1960s. ?And it has been used as such for more years than I can count. When I was a kid in England and grabbed a ball to go out and play ? I would just as easily have said: ?Let?s have a game of soccer? as I would use the word ?football? instead. And I didn?t start it.?

To trace the origin of ?soccer? we must go all the way back to 1863, and a meeting of gentlemen at a London pub, who congregated with the purpose of standardizing the rules of ?football,? which was in its infant years as an organized sport but was growing rapidly in popularity.

Those assembled became the founding members of the Football Association (which still oversees the game in England to this day). And they decided to call their code Association Football, to differentiate it from Rugby Football.

A quirk of British culture is the permanent need to familiarize names by shortening them. ?My friend Brian Johnston was Johnners,? said Toye. ?They took the third, fourth and fifth letters of Association and called it SOCcer. So there you are.?

So forget that English condescension and carry on calling it soccer, safe in the knowledge that you?re more in tune with the roots of the sport than those mocking Brits.
Full Article [http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/news/its-football-to-you-soccer-to-me--fbintl_ro-soccervsfootball070110.html]

I'm sure some people may already know this, but I found it interesting and want to share it with those who don't, since its so widely joked around these parts.


EDIT: I call it football because I'm greek, and in Greek it is podosphero = Foot + Sphere.
Just to say here in québec, Canada we also say Soccer... it's not jsut the USA
 

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Maze1125 said:
The main problem isn't that Americans call football "soccer" but that they call handegg "football".
The fact that rugby used to be referred to as rugby football should have clued you in on why that game is called football. Or did you get it and you just wanted to make the handegg dig cause you find it cleaver?

Rugby football evolved into the game we call football, the rugby was dropped and the game has sense been known as football.
DSK- said:
At least soccer removes confusion, although I must admit I can't understand why American football is called football - it sounds like false advertising ;)
Figured I would quote you so you could read the answer as well.
 

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Tankdown said:
Pimppeter2 said:
Tankdown said:
In the text quoted by the OP it states that both words were used interchangeably with each other, defeating the point of this thread.
The title refers to the argument of Football vs Soccer.
Exactly...
Are you missing the point on purpose? Some of the world (some Brits especially) love to look down on us poor pitiful "yanks" for calling it soccer. Mostly making comments about how the entirety of the world likes to call it football except us (which not only isn't true, but we picked the term soccer up from them in the first place).
 

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manaman said:
Maze1125 said:
The main problem isn't that Americans call football "soccer" but that they call handegg "football".
The fact that rugby used to be referred to as rugby football should have clued you in on why that game is called football. Or did you get it and you just wanted to make the handegg dig because you find it clever?*

Rugby football evolved into the game we call football, the rugby was dropped and the game has sense been known as football.
DSK- said:
At least soccer removes confusion, although I must admit I can't understand why American football is called football - it sounds like false advertising ;)
Figured I would quote you so you could read the answer as well.
I was trying to post in a humourous and light-hearted manner. It seems that once again I failed to do so.

I'm content to call a spade a spade.
 

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The only real problem I see here is the fact that people care. That's like getting upset at your dad for calling extra lives "mans" or calling Pokémon "Pokémans".
 

VanityGirl

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I call it soccer. I'm American, I've always called it soccer, even when I lived in another country. People know that soccer=football.
 

yanipheonu

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Technically, Soccer is a football game, football in its loosest meaning a game that involves kicking a ball with your foot.

American Football and Soccer are both football, just different types of football.
 

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Soccer.
If only to differentiate it from Aussie Rules Football and Rugby League Football which are both more popular (or at least more common) than soccer.

And for the record no, not hand egg, its still a ball, certainly not an egg. A deflated ball is still a ball in name though not in shape.
 

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El Poncho said:
Usually though on the internet I have to say something to let Americans know that I am not talking about American football, I am talking about Football, so why not add in the , It's football! Not soccer! it's much more interesting than saying (soccer). You feel like you are giving in to the Americans, adding extra text just so they know what you are talking about. So, pride I guess.
Most people feel the need to do that with words or things that can have two different meanings between different countries/cultures that are fairly well known.

It's not pride so much as making it clear for all, and hopefully avoiding interwebz rage.
 

likalaruku

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I like to annoy both parties. I call one Rugby & the other American Football, always putting the term "American" in front of it.
 

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Oh you Americans...
We have at least six different football codes here in Australia. At least three of them are known as "Footy". You just have to be specific. To avoid confusion I refer to Football as Football or Soccer, never "Footy". I used to say "The round ball game" but Gaelic football has become more and more popular. You need to say Aussie Rules when talking about Australian Rules Football, League when talking about Rubgy League, Union when talking about Rugby Union, Sevens when talking about Rugby Sevens, and Gaelic Football if you are talking about the Irish game. If we mention American Football at all, it's usually called Grid Iron.