Japans death row makes prisoners go insane
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Wow, Japan has gone down in my books. I didn't even know that the country had the death penalty, let alone a death row that allegedly renders its prisoners insane. Poor form, Japan, poor form.
Love the way people here seemed so quick to condemn people demanding that they lose all rights as a human being for being convicted for a crime. They completely overlook the fact that innocent people get convicted! That many of the current systems in place, such as long waiting times with mandatory retrials, are there because far too many innocent people where ending up on death row. A system which tortures, even 'soft torture,' is taking a bad situation and making it far worse!
Sarcasm: Cause after all only guilty people go to jail. /sarcasm
Sarcasm: Cause after all only guilty people go to jail. /sarcasm
Japan is a contoversial country. Very conservative, very chauvinistic, very brutal and very strict.
We campaign for better treatment than this for CHICKENS. They do not deserve this treatment egardless of what crimes they have commited. Death and isiolation is enough of a punishment, this is needless toture. To force a human to live years sat silent, unmoving, is beyond some of the most brutal torture I can imagine. Trapped inside your mind awaiting the hour where you are told it's time to die. Inhumane to an extreme.
Humans are the only creatures truly capable of evil.
Humans are the only creatures truly capable of evil.
America should adopt this system. Hell, America should just get off of our freaking pedestal and actually USE the death penalty.
I think the Death penalty takes too long. Don't they give bailiffs sidearms? If the defendant is found guilty of a capital crime let everyone else leave the courtroom and put one between the defendant's eyes. At the very least it would save time.
Hmmm, of all the human rights abuses that are bandied about these days, I have to say that I could care less but they still deserve at least a modicum of decent treatment. Though you could say that they're going to die insane or not and that they really should have thought about what they were doing before they committed a capital offence.
Bowss, I need'ta see'ya here for a moment...
OT: Someone once said that part of what makes us human is our capasity to be inhumane to others.
OT: Someone once said that part of what makes us human is our capasity to be inhumane to others.
If the Yacuza are involved with the process, that makes things significantly more awkward as far as sorting the mess out goes. (This is probably why so many innocent people end up on death row in Japan.)
Well, when someone first gets sentenced they still sit in jail. When someone on death row makes an appeal they come back to jail. When they are awaiting trial they sit in jail. Jail and Prison management techniques are the same across the board. It's not 'going soft' the thing is if you take away EVERYTHING -even the ability to move- right off the bat you have no way to control them without using violence. Taking away privilages is the cornerstone of corrections management regardless of if they are minimum, medium, maximum, federal, ICE, CAPITAL, DCS, SDMH... or any other form of an inmate. I have had to deal with hundreds of them all they are all still people they all still respond to orders the same. (well except for SDMH, they are mentally ill) My objection was about how this is basically torture in addition to the isolation and death punishment. This isn't even eye for an eye it's steps beyond that.Stalk3rchief said:
The thing is this...
[HEADING=1]ANYONE CAN GO TO JAIL![/HEADING]
You are all one bad mistake, one crazy situation, one wrong place wrong time, one passionate moment away from a life behind bars.
Not every murderer's situation is the same. Some are defending themselves and unable to prove it (that happens a lot with gang bangers) Or in a passionate moment of catching their wife of 30 years in bed with two other men. Well I can see how your judgment might get clouded.
In addition a 99% conviction rate?!? Do they even HAVE trials? That is ridiculous I can say as a former inspector that occasionally I have gotten the wrong man. I have been lucky enough to realize it or find a new lead before I pressed charges but to say that the cops have the right guy 99% of the time is fucking ridiculous. Not to mention punishing the convicted in this way also punishes their FAMILY. Maybe they are a ruthless bastard who deserves to die but that doesn't mean they're wife and kid shouldn't have a choice in if they want to visit him or not.
I'm not saying they're innocent. I'm saying a society is only as good as it treats it's worst citizen.
Lastly, where do you get off telling what moments I've lived count for what? You ever had a man strangling you screaming bloody murder? How many cracked ribs from stopping two people from killing each other over a magazine? How many times have you talked a man down from suicide because of his decision which he truly and deeply regretted? How many times have you looked someone in the face after they were told "You are hereby sentenced to death by electric chair, where electricity will pass through your body until you are dead, have you any questions direct them to your attorney." You can tell me what MY experiences count for when I can tell you the same. Which is to say NEVER.
this kind of crap is japan all over, they need to learn that human life if a valuable thing and gain some fucking empathy
i hate to go all controversial but maybe a few more nukes might actualy mutate them into proper humans, ya know with feelings and stuff
i hate to go all controversial but maybe a few more nukes might actualy mutate them into proper humans, ya know with feelings and stuff
Unjust punishment does not dissuade criminals, but rather, leads to embitterment. They need to take a page from Montesquieu.
Well people on Death Row have generally done something awful. The majority of first-degree murderers still just get a lengthy sentence. These people, in their crimes, have done something sickening and repulsive, something that defies nature, something inhuman and therefore are treated as such by the Japanese, who have a firm tradition of honour. Murderers are not honourable people, and honour practically defines Japanese culture.
