Jim Sterling in court.

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I think he might actually be insane.
He's displayed obvious narcissistic personality features (delusions of grandeur and narcissistic rage), so he's clearly unwell in a diagnosable way.

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I'm surprised Valve hasn't taken down *all* of DH's games. I wonder what kind of impact removing those 19 games has on their income.

This may explain why, Something mmofallout discovered way back on July 5th. http://mmofallout.com/column-valves-constantly-changing-position-on-digihom/
I get the impression someone at Valve might be worried about setting some kind of precedent. I just can't decide if it's "We shouldn't interfere with what people want" or "We don't want to start quality checking things now".
 

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Seems there is some clarification about DH's greenlight items from mmofallout.com from their previous article.
http://mmofallout.com/digihom-update-some-clarification/
 

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Do US courts always take so long to make decisions?

I only ask, as I was curious - so I went back to check the dates.

Jim's lawyers originally submitted their motion to dismiss back on the 4th of May. Motion #12.
(also motions #13 and 15, asking for the okay to submit more than 22 pages in reply - Granted as #18 on 10th of May).

Since then it's pretty much been James Romine putting paperwork in asking for the motion to dismiss to be itself dismissed. (#16, #17, #20, #22, #23, #24, #27, #28)

#30 was basically the judge saying that he was accepting the paperwork for #22, #23 and #24 but denying #27.
That was the 28th of June.

It's now practically 2 months later.
And this for a case that was originally opened in March.

Surely someone's got to make a decision eventually?

Does anyone have any insight on how long these things "normally" take?
 

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Elwes said:
Do US courts always take so long to make decisions?

I only ask, as I was curious - so I went back to check the dates.

Jim's lawyers originally submitted their motion to dismiss back on the 4th of May. Motion #12.
(also motions #13 and 15, asking for the okay to submit more than 22 pages in reply - Granted as #18 on 10th of May).

Since then it's pretty much been James Romine putting paperwork in asking for the motion to dismiss to be itself dismissed. (#16, #17, #20, #22, #23, #24, #27, #28)

#30 was basically the judge saying that he was accepting the paperwork for #22, #23 and #24 but denying #27.
That was the 28th of June.

It's now practically 2 months later.
And this for a case that was originally opened in March.

Surely someone's got to make a decision eventually?

Does anyone have any insight on how long these things "normally" take?
I understand how you feel, based on what we have read a person might had taking his decision agaisnt Romine way back on the end of July, but it depends on the Judge's schedule: just go to the link here and write the Judge's name (John J. Tuchi) on the search and look at his schedule for the 22nd to the 25th. http://www2.azd.uscourts.gov/azd/callive.nsf/searchresults/$searchForm?SearchView&Seq=2 (courts aren't open in Arizona on Friday, as I remember that from the Jodi Arias trial)

Priority takes on the trials in progress, specially those that are at the ending curve. If anything where to happened it would be between Friday Augt. 26th and Friday Sept.2nd. The Good news is, he only has to look at two documents from James Romine: his original response in opposition to the defense motion to Dismiss and his request to have the two documents the judge already denied be added to that surviving document(Doc22). Neither side has present more since, so the Judge got all that he has for now, pending if Romine no longer presents anything else - which is up to him to do so, been the plaintiff.

We believe by now the Judge has already studied Romine's and Jim's sides of the story and motions, and may had already formulated his decision, he just likely taking his moment to no look one sided against either side.
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Edit 8/31/16.

Is it me, or has Digital Homicide gone silent. They hadn't done a thing in a month.

They had not attempted to post any new games, nor attempt to reinstate the games that were removed by "accident" from Greenlight.
 

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Edit 8/31/16.

Is it me, or has Digital Homicide gone silent. They hadn't done a thing in a month.

They had not attempted to post any new games, nor attempt to reinstate the games that were removed by "accident" from Greenlight.
In terms of their game, apparently, one of them has gotten through which is the same game as the other space invaders reskin along with the other game with the same title ( http://store.steampowered.com/app/516230 ).

The interesting part here is that it's now under R. Romine (Robert Romine) and not under Digital Homicide or Digital Homicide LLC as their developer and publisher. I was wondering as to why that is and one thing I can assume the reason is Robert might be handling most of the stuff going on in Steam and their website while James is busy doing something else which would be trying to sue the 18 - 24 Steam members.

For those who might not know, this was from reddit that I found out about this ( https://www.reddit.com/r/JimSterling/comments/4xchj6/xpost_rdigiralhomicide_bad_news_the_brothers/ ). Apparently, James made some posts within a Steam community group ( http://steamcommunity.com/groups/digitalhomicides ) and told them that he's going to sue up to 18 or more people in there and will make an announcement about it in September. So yeah, it seems since he might know that he won't win the lawsuit against Sterling, he's just going after some random individuals now...

EDIT: Also, a bit of clarification from the Steam group mentioned from reddit and the one James joined temporarily, that is NOT Digital Homicide real group, but rather a community group that, from the description in there, serves as some kind of watch dogs over bad developers as well as keeping track of sketchy greenlight games.
 

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KoalaMan412 said:
For those who might not know, this was from reddit that I found out about this ( https://www.reddit.com/r/JimSterling/comments/4xchj6/xpost_rdigiralhomicide_bad_news_the_brothers/ ). Apparently, James made some posts within a Steam community group ( http://steamcommunity.com/groups/digitalhomicides ) and told them that he's going to sue up to 18 or more people in there and will make an announcement about it in September. So yeah, it seems since he might know that he won't win the lawsuit against Sterling, he's just going after some random individuals now...
How is this man still alive?
 

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Cap said:
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Cap said:
Better question: Does anybody in court know that he's just faffing about?
I thought we were fairly certain he was already.
I meant more than usual. Prior to now, he's been wasting the court's time by BSing them. NOW, he's just walked out and started bothering unassociated people.
 

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Cap said:
KoalaMan412 said:
For those who might not know, this was from reddit that I found out about this ( https://www.reddit.com/r/JimSterling/comments/4xchj6/xpost_rdigiralhomicide_bad_news_the_brothers/ ). Apparently, James made some posts within a Steam community group ( http://steamcommunity.com/groups/digitalhomicides ) and told them that he's going to sue up to 18 or more people in there and will make an announcement about it in September. So yeah, it seems since he might know that he won't win the lawsuit against Sterling, he's just going after some random individuals now...
How is this man still alive?
I recall this story been shared sometime ago, and I think Romine is just doing that to just scare any critics off, cause he has nothing to stop the critics anymore. If you remember when he filed the lawsuit he stated "that others would follow". Romine is just bluffing, really, even tho he has no better evidence on anyone that he has on Jim. Just one last gasp of hubris before Judge Tuchi gives the legal "deathblow" to his weak lawsuit.

Someone in the comment section there mention that Romine is the true definition of the term "Vexatious Litigant" and how Judges will very likely punish plaintiffs that waste the court's time and patience and abuse the system with repetitive and baseless evidence. Hell, I think the Judge, if he dismisses the case, will use that term to explain why he won't grant the trial. When he struck down Romine's attempts to altered the lawsuit on July 28th, the Judge agreed with the defense saying "Plaintiff does nothing but repeat arguments made in previous responses".

That's not a good sign for him and is worsen by the reality that the court reporter marked his affidavit to get the two dismiss response allow to be added into his last document with a stamp that says "This Document is not in proper form according to federal and/or local rules and practices and is subject to rejection by the court". You can see it marked on the top right corner of the paper https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/azd/969057/32-0.html
 

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I'm so looking forward to the epic shelling DigiHom is going to get when this is all over and Jim's legally allowed to talk about it. The Jimquisition will be beyond brutal.
 

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You can see it marked on the top right corner of the paper https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/azd/969057/32-0.html
That doc is honestly painful to read. It looks like something a child in middle-school would write
 

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Avnger said:
Gades said:
You can see it marked on the top right corner of the paper https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/azd/969057/32-0.html
That doc is honestly painful to read. It looks like something a child in middle-school would write
Indeed. And the best part of all, Romine has made every single motion, every single response on 8.5x11 (letter) size paper, when courts work on 8.5.x14 (document) - that's the one courts only use.

Silentpony said:
FalloutJack said:
I'm so looking forward to the epic shelling DigiHom is going to get when this is all over and Jim's legally allowed to talk about it. The Jimquisition will be beyond brutal.
I hope we get it before October, cause the wait is killing me :p
 

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Gades said:
Cap said:
KoalaMan412 said:
For those who might not know, this was from reddit that I found out about this ( https://www.reddit.com/r/JimSterling/comments/4xchj6/xpost_rdigiralhomicide_bad_news_the_brothers/ ). Apparently, James made some posts within a Steam community group ( http://steamcommunity.com/groups/digitalhomicides ) and told them that he's going to sue up to 18 or more people in there and will make an announcement about it in September. So yeah, it seems since he might know that he won't win the lawsuit against Sterling, he's just going after some random individuals now...
How is this man still alive?
I recall this story been shared sometime ago, and I think Romine is just doing that to just scare any critics off, cause he has nothing to stop the critics anymore. If you remember when he filed the lawsuit he stated "that others would follow". Romine is just bluffing, really, even tho he has no better evidence on anyone that he has on Jim. Just one last gasp of hubris before Judge Tuchi gives the legal "deathblow" to his weak lawsuit.

Someone in the comment section there mention that Romine is the true definition of the term "Vexatious Litigant" and how Judges will very likely punish plaintiffs that waste the court's time and patience and abuse the system with repetitive and baseless evidence. Hell, I think the Judge, if he dismisses the case, will use that term to explain why he won't grant the trial. When he struck down Romine's attempts to altered the lawsuit on July 28th, the Judge agreed with the defense saying "Plaintiff does nothing but repeat arguments made in previous responses".

That's not a good sign for him and is worsen by the reality that the court reporter marked his affidavit to get the two dismiss response allow to be added into his last document with a stamp that says "This Document is not in proper form according to federal and/or local rules and practices and is subject to rejection by the court". You can see it marked on the top right corner of the paper https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/azd/969057/32-0.html
Does Jim not get some form of reimbursement from Digital Homicide for their lawsuit? What's to stop Digihomicide from going after someone else? Im sure there are rules in place, but the U.S. Legal system baffles me.
 

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Fox12 said:
Does Jim not get some form of reimbursement from Digital Homicide for their lawsuit? What's to stop Digihomicide from going after someone else? Im sure there are rules in place, but the U.S. Legal system baffles me.
Not unless the judge orders digihom to pay. If he just rules in favor of Jim, that's it. If he dismisses with prejudice, then I believe DigiHom can't sue again for the same reason, but can sue for different reasons.
But my understanding of the Legal system is there is no way to prevent DigiHom from suing other people, unless the State/Government brings charges of fraud/legal malpractice and gets a conviction. And even then, I'm sure there are ways to bring more suits.
 

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Fox12 said:
Does Jim not get some form of reimbursement from Digital Homicide for their lawsuit? What's to stop Digihomicide from going after someone else? Im sure there are rules in place, but the U.S. Legal system baffles me.
Not unless the judge orders digihom to pay. If he just rules in favor of Jim, that's it. If he dismisses with prejudice, then I believe DigiHom can't sue again for the same reason, but can sue for different reasons.
But my understanding of the Legal system is there is no way to prevent DigiHom from suing other people, unless the State/Government brings charges of fraud/legal malpractice and gets a conviction. And even then, I'm sure there are ways to bring more suits.
Well, heck, I wouldn't be surprised if he does start suing other critics. He doesn't need to win, he just has to harass everyone until they stop.
 

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Fox12 said:
Silentpony said:
Fox12 said:
Does Jim not get some form of reimbursement from Digital Homicide for their lawsuit? What's to stop Digihomicide from going after someone else? Im sure there are rules in place, but the U.S. Legal system baffles me.
Not unless the judge orders digihom to pay. If he just rules in favor of Jim, that's it. If he dismisses with prejudice, then I believe DigiHom can't sue again for the same reason, but can sue for different reasons.
But my understanding of the Legal system is there is no way to prevent DigiHom from suing other people, unless the State/Government brings charges of fraud/legal malpractice and gets a conviction. And even then, I'm sure there are ways to bring more suits.
Well, heck, I wouldn't be surprised if he does start suing other critics. He doesn't need to win, he just has to harass everyone until they stop.
They could actually turn it into a profitable business. Just start suing people and offer them settlement deals that would be cheaper than hiring a lawyer to fight them. People would pay just to make that shit go away. Even someone like Jim under Google's protection would take a deal rather than spend more money fighting.

And at that point it doesn't have to be critics. You can sue for any reason. It could just be you and I who watched Jimquisition, and commented on how shit DigiHom is. Legally speaking, that's enough for a lawsuit if they cite not being human excrement.
 

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Silentpony said:
Fox12 said:
Does Jim not get some form of reimbursement from Digital Homicide for their lawsuit? What's to stop Digihomicide from going after someone else? Im sure there are rules in place, but the U.S. Legal system baffles me.
Not unless the judge orders digihom to pay. If he just rules in favor of Jim, that's it. If he dismisses with prejudice, then I believe DigiHom can't sue again for the same reason, but can sue for different reasons.
But my understanding of the Legal system is there is no way to prevent DigiHom from suing other people, unless the State/Government brings charges of fraud/legal malpractice and gets a conviction. And even then, I'm sure there are ways to bring more suits.
If they lose, and the Judge denies the trial cause the lawsuit is Vexatious, then yeah, the Judge would force them to pay for wasting his time.

Silentpony said:
Fox12 said:
Silentpony said:
Fox12 said:
Does Jim not get some form of reimbursement from Digital Homicide for their lawsuit? What's to stop Digihomicide from going after someone else? Im sure there are rules in place, but the U.S. Legal system baffles me.
Not unless the judge orders digihom to pay. If he just rules in favor of Jim, that's it. If he dismisses with prejudice, then I believe DigiHom can't sue again for the same reason, but can sue for different reasons.
But my understanding of the Legal system is there is no way to prevent DigiHom from suing other people, unless the State/Government brings charges of fraud/legal malpractice and gets a conviction. And even then, I'm sure there are ways to bring more suits.
Well, heck, I wouldn't be surprised if he does start suing other critics. He doesn't need to win, he just has to harass everyone until they stop.
They could actually turn it into a profitable business. Just start suing people and offer them settlement deals that would be cheaper than hiring a lawyer to fight them. People would pay just to make that shit go away. Even someone like Jim under Google's protection would take a deal rather than spend more money fighting.

And at that point it doesn't have to be critics. You can sue for any reason. It could just be you and I who watched Jimquisition, and commented on how shit DigiHom is. Legally speaking, that's enough for a lawsuit if they cite not being human excrement.
Pending DigiHom don't lose the case and aren't view in the same way as patent trolls.
 

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If they lose, and the Judge denies the trial cause the lawsuit is Vexatious, then yeah, the Judge would force them to pay for wasting his time.
No, they'd to do it a few times before they're labelled vexatious. On the bright side, if they get labelled vexatious they're never allowed to sue anyone again.
 

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Cap said:
Gades said:
If they lose, and the Judge denies the trial cause the lawsuit is Vexatious, then yeah, the Judge would force them to pay for wasting his time.
No, they'd to do it a few times before they're labelled vexatious. On the bright side, if they get labelled vexatious they're never allowed to sue anyone again.
But don't they have to prove that in a court of law? Like one judge thinking they're vexatious isn't enough, even if multiple suits are brought. DigiHom could argue Jim continues to slander and harass them, and the judge has ensured they're defenseless against him.
There has to be a separate trial to prove DigiHom is simply wasting time for the sake of wasting time.