Jimquisition: GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS

[ElPatron]

Stop blaming publishers and blame the consumers Jim!
They are not gonna waste money on new things if we only buy the same old crap!
But no no no you just keep screaming."THE PUBLISHERS THE PUBLISHERS IT'S ALWAYS THE PUBLISHERS !"
Once the consumers start buying new things the publishers will make new things.

If people gave up on buying shooters, then they would blame piracy, the second hand market, etc and we would be all punished.

Plus, millions of people just buy them because they genuinely like shooters.

Only a problem if you buy every shooter. *shrug*

It is a problem if you have an irrational hatred for shooters.

 

[Clearing the Eye]

Stop blaming publishers and blame the consumers Jim!
They are not gonna waste money on new things if we only buy the same old crap!
But no no no you just keep screaming."THE PUBLISHERS THE PUBLISHERS IT'S ALWAYS THE PUBLISHERS !"
Once the consumers start buying new things the publishers will make new things.

If people gave up on buying shooters, then they would blame piracy, the second hand market, etc and we would be all punished.

Plus, millions of people just buy them because they genuinely like shooters.

Only a problem if you buy every shooter. *shrug*

It is a problem if you have an irrational hatred for shooters.

If I have to live with... *gulp*... "dating sims" streaming out of Japan, you can damn well get over a pissy little plague of shooters, dang it! Now you march right up to those shooters and say "Don't eat me!"

Wait... What were we talking about?

 

[Clearing the Eye]

The single greatest gun-based videgame advertisement in history. The game was probably crap, but I go watch this ad every few weeks:

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The game was not crap, thank you very much!

[small][small]I quite liked it...[/small][/small]

 

[orangeapples]

But don't forget, Assassin's Creed 3 was there. Assassin's Creed 3 was everywhere...

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

There is only one mindless shooter worth playing. Borderlands 2. It has the most guns, it is colorful, it has a good art design, a lot of enemy variety and every type of gun you can imagine. Why would anyone want to play any other mindless shooter when they are all in a way integrated into Borderlands 2?

 

[The]

It says a lot when Sony stuck out the most this year with a Smash Bros. Brawl game, a new Heavy Rain, and a new Uncharted. *sigh*

*Fucking Facepalm* Why the HELL did I not say that? Thank God for you.

And Rayman Legends. And the new Sly Cooper.

 

[Chairman Miaow]

Stop blaming publishers and blame the consumers Jim!
They are not gonna waste money on new things if we only buy the same old crap!
But no no no you just keep screaming."THE PUBLISHERS THE PUBLISHERS IT'S ALWAYS THE PUBLISHERS !"
Once the consumers start buying new things the publishers will make new things.

I don't think it's that black and white.
If we're fed mainly shooters and the publishers mainly push shooters and promote mainly the big name shooters then the consumer starts to loose choices.

It's the lazy thing to do, to publish an FPS because publishers feel like those projects are safer bets. Those shooters getting published can quite easily mean that a fresh IP or original idea isn't pursued or published because it's considered too risky.
There's nothing the consumer can do about that and no one asked the consumer. Who's to say that if Syndicate was made into a modern RTS it wouldn't have done better than if they just went the FPS route. I don't remember many players demanding Syndicate come out as an FPS, yet it did, again limiting the consumers options.
It's publishers following graphs.

remember Enslaved?

It was critically acclaimed and an overall great game. Totally bombed. Even a bad FPS has a pretty good chance of making the money back.

How much was spent on the marketing for that game compared to just about any FPS on the market I wonder? Hell, I didn't even see Enslaved in stores. I don't even remember when it came out.

it had banners, the works. Every web comic ever did a piece. It was the game everyone knew no1 bought. I dont think it had TV spots, but neither had Haze. And it made its money back.

I guess that just goes to prove you can't use a single game as evidence of any kind of correlation then doesn't it?

 

[porpoise hork]

I agree with Jim, they really needed to showcase variety. too much of the same thing and it does get hard to tess one shooter from the next.

Sad thing is just watching the clips and aside from a couple in the clips I couldn't tell them apart.

But don't forget, Assassin's Creed 3 was there. Assassin's Creed 3 was everywhere...

like we need another one of those.

The single greatest gun-based videgame advertisement in history. The game was probably crap, but I go watch this ad every few weeks:

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LOL.... oh my god that was fucking awesome!

 

[lord.jeff]

I would extend this from guns to action in general, I do love a lot of action titles but when my only choice to get away from them is to just disregard AAA all together, and even then I still mostly get simplified puzzle games. I would love to see a balanced selection of games without guns, swords, or fists.

 

[Rad Party God]

At least I liked Nintendo's conference...

 

[Eveonline100]

Stop blaming publishers and blame the consumers Jim!
They are not gonna waste money on new things if we only buy the same old crap!
But no no no you just keep screaming."THE PUBLISHERS THE PUBLISHERS IT'S ALWAYS THE PUBLISHERS !"
Once the consumers start buying new things the publishers will make new things.

Heres a question if industry A is only marketing, producing and releasing product A(FPS) and thats the only thing people know about isn't it all too likely that the reason why Prodcuct A is selling in the millions is because that the only thing the consumer knows about. Honsetly i'm pretty sure in the next few years shooters will go out of style the same way say space games did. This will also most likely happen in are lift times even though it would be interseting to see what steps up to take it place. Then again in about 3-4 years after it become popular it eventually go down the same way FPSs did.

 

[LadyRhian]

Heh, if it's that bad, I'll go back to playing Angband.

 

[ElPatron]

There is only one mindless shooter worth playing. Borderlands 2. It has the most guns, it is colorful, it has a good art design, a lot of enemy variety and every type of gun you can imagine. Why would anyone want to play any other mindless shooter when they are all in a way integrated into Borderlands 2?

How the eff can be Borderlands "mindless"? Don't the series have RPG components?

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

There is only one mindless shooter worth playing. Borderlands 2. It has the most guns, it is colorful, it has a good art design, a lot of enemy variety and every type of gun you can imagine. Why would anyone want to play any other mindless shooter when they are all in a way integrated into Borderlands 2?

How the eff can be Borderlands "mindless"? Don't the series have RPG components?

Yeah, but it's still just mindless fun. No real plot. The only goal is to get better guns to kill stronger enemies.

 

[Estevao Levy Lima]

Jim is probably the best part of this site now! Very funny and informative.

 

[jmarquiso]

But we turned fps's into safe bet's because we buy them so much.
We need to do the same to other genre's

I don't think they're the safe bet they used to be. Didn't Singularity fail, for example? Not every FPS does well. When it's of low quality, consumers do notice.

 

[ZexionSephiroth]

My thoughts? They should have had more RPGs on show. I could only find about three (Persona 4[re-release I'm betting], Kingdom Hearts 3D, Elder Scrolls Online.) And since I have little reason to go back to MMOs, I only have about two games from E3 to look forward to and one's coming out in a month.

I won't be fussed if anyone here likes all the shooters, that's a debate that's either dead or pointless; what I am fussed about is that those that prefer the experience of RPGs are being ignored so much. I haven't bought a shooter in years, and am dedicated to every Colorful character I can find; and love the feel of being able to defeat an opponent with a few key button strokes. Why do they have to keep mocking my absolute loathing of having to point something exactly on target? Why can't I have my blades?

Still, there's always Devil May Cry, even though I'm a bit annoyed at how juvenile some of Dante's speech has gotten compared to that one game of his I played where he was a bit more showy. (Devil May Cry 4, for the record; in-case you want to make fun of me. And yes, I know that game was more Nero than Dante, so what?)

 

[mjc0961]

It says a lot when Sony stuck out the most this year with a Smash Bros. Brawl game, a new Heavy Rain, and a new Uncharted. *sigh*

Sony didn't stick out the most, though. Nintendo did. I don't really know why Sony was chosen to get praise at the end of that episode when Nintendo was doing things even more different than Sony did.

 

[CardinalPiggles]

Haha, what did you guys expect?