Jimquisition: I Hate Videogames (Because I Love Them)

[SnakeoilSage]

I love Dead Space, too. Yeah, EA's hanging around nagging at me because you marry the whole family, so to speak, but I love Dead Space and I want to keep playing it. As long as I don't have to deal with EA's shit every day, if the mother-in-law doesn't live with me and my digital bride, then I can tolerate it for the sake of love.

 

[GamemasterAnthony]

Only a Sith deals in absolutes. Nice one Jim!

Interesting reference...and actually quite correct. Saying you love a company just because you love the games or hate a company just because of their business practices is definitely the absolutism that goes here. Personally...I'd like to see some of the better game series turned over to other companies with less shittier business practices just to see what happens.

Hmmm...I wonder if we can relate the "good products, bad business" idea to the Spiderman franchise as well...

 

[girzwald]

How dare Chick-Fil-A support the idea that traditional marriage should be between a man and a woman, truly they are bigots of the highest order *sarcasm.

They are against homosexual couples being allowed to benefit from the advantages of being married. Eg spousal medical benefits, insurance, etc.

Bigot : a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own

Sounds pretty accurate.

That's may be the definition of bigot. But sorry, just because you don't approve of gay marriage does not mean you are a bigot. Do tell me how believing in something means you are automatically INTOLERANT of the opposite. Maybe what you need is to learn what TOLERANCE means.

Tolerance: a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry.

I hate rap. Hate, hate, hate it. Think its crap that all sounds the same and I wish it didn't exist But guess what. Still tolerant of it. I let it exist because it has a right to. But that doesn't mean I have to like it.

But its ironic, the chicken guy has a view, and a belief, but you seem to be rather intolerant of it. That make you a bigot as well?

 

[Littaly]

Say what you want about Jim Sterling as a columnist or opinion-haver, out of all the people with similar jobs he has the by far best comedy chops.

It's not necessarily all that cleverly written, it's pretty standard stuff, but his timing and delivery is priceless. I fins myself laughing out loud at things that I'd normally just sigh at. Case in point, today's intro and the "sometimes with my penis" line, I watched the video twice and laughed just as hard both times

 

[sindremaster]

This is the wrong prespective.
If the developer doesn't produce the games we want (what the apparently don't do anymore)
and it's the publishers mistake, those developers will search a new publisher.

But you still buy games and so nothing will change.

For me noone who still buys from EA, Activision and Ubisoft is a Gamer.
Sry, those "customers" pay for destroying our loved hobby.

But they do produce the games I want, I just hate the publishers for different reasons.
I love Bioware games, but I hate what EA does with DLC.
I love Assassin's Creed, but I hate Ubisoft's DRM.
Bioware is owned by EA and Ubisoft makes AC, which means they can't find a new publisher. I love their games and want to support the devs so I buy their games.

In other words, you want things to change but you are not willing to make even the slightest sacrifice. Sorry, but that is just lousy thing to do and will not work.

I want million dollars but I will not move mu ass from the chair is not how things work.

No I want thing to change, but I'm not willing to sacrifice a good developer to do it.

 

[loudestmute]

Congratulations on another successful episode, Jim. Too bad all anyone in the forum seems to be taking away is "Because he said something about the Chick-Fil-A/gay marriage thing this is now a Chick-Fil-A/gay marriage thread."

Just out of curiosity, how soon can we expect an episode on loving the games whilst hating the fanboys who support them?

 

[mjc0961]

Well said Jim, well said. Just this weekend I found a thread on one of my favorite forums where a guy was asking why people complain so much about things like Bethesda's crappy game engine and on-disc DLC, and stating that we should just shut up and get back to enjoying games like we used to. I was dumbfounded that anyone could think that not liking crappy business practices means I don't enjoy playing the games. Why people can't process this massively simple separation of the games themselves and the business practices surrounding the games is beyond me.

That said, I don't buy games from some companies anymore because they've gone too far for my tastes. EA, Capcom, THQ, screw you guys. There are plenty of other companies out there making games who treat their customers with respect (or at least fuck them up the ass far less violently; don't think I like you using online passes even I buy your games, Sony*), and their games are just as fun. My money and free time are limited, so I'm going to give both to those better companies and leave EA, THQ, and Capcom's games rotting on the shelf. I'm never going to be able to play every game that gets made anyway, so I might as well skip the ones by companies looking to screw me over.

*[small]Oh shit, said something bad about Sony. Guess that means I hate them, but am I a Microsoft fanboy or a Nintendo fanboy? I'll let the idiots decide that one while I play with the brand new PSP I bought last week.[/small]

How dare Chick-Fil-A support the idea that traditional marriage should be between a man and a woman, truly they are bigots of the highest order *sarcasm.

You're probably sick of hearing this by now, but too bad! You said something incredibly dumb and deserve every single message you get calling you out on it.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot
big·ot
noun \ˈbi-gət\
Definition of BIGOT
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Chick-Fil-A ARE bigots of the highest order. And fuck "traditional marriage" anyway. You know what traditional marriage really should be? Two people who really love each other getting married and STAYING TOGETHER. Not getting married after a few months of dating and getting a divorce another few months later after they've been cheating on each other like so many marriages these days are. If you want to complain about "traditional marriage" being ruined, go complain to all those straight couples who keep raising the divorce rate because they never should have gotten married in the first place.

 

[Blade_125]

How dare Chick-Fil-A support the idea that traditional marriage should be between a man and a woman, truly they are bigots of the highest order *sarcasm.

They are against homosexual couples being allowed to benefit from the advantages of being married. Eg spousal medical benefits, insurance, etc.

Bigot : a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own

Sounds pretty accurate.

That's may be the definition of bigot. But sorry, just because you don't approve of gay marriage does not mean you are a bigot. Do tell me how believing in something means you are automatically INTOLERANT of the opposite. Maybe what you need is to learn what TOLERANCE means.

Tolerance: a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry.

I hate rap. Hate, hate, hate it. Think its crap that all sounds the same and I wish it didn't exist But guess what. Still tolerant of it. I let it exist because it has a right to. But that doesn't mean I have to like it.

But its ironic, the chicken guy has a view, and a belief, but you seem to be rather intolerant of it. That make you a bigot as well?

The founder actively funds campaigning against gay marrage. That is a little more than disliking it.

The real issue is that he is actively trying to prevent something that benefits others and doesn't hurt him, or anyone else. This is not tolerance. How can someone else getting married diminish the meaning of marrage? You might as well prohibit Rap from being allowed to be awarded at the grammies since it would dimish the meaning of music, based on your taste of the genre. (although I think the grammies themselves diminish the value of music, but that's another conversation).

Anyway I don't want to derail this thread so I don't plan to reply anymore, but you can feel free to PM me if you have anything else to point out.

See Jim. This is what happens when you add a little tidbit comment that is completly unrelated. How am I suppose to stop myself from responding

 

[mjc0961]

That's may be the definition of bigot. But sorry, just because you don't approve of gay marriage does not mean you are a bigot. Do tell me how believing in something means you are automatically INTOLERANT of the opposite. Maybe what you need is to learn what TOLERANCE means.

Tolerance: a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry.

I hate rap. Hate, hate, hate it. Think its crap that all sounds the same and I wish it didn't exist But guess what. Still tolerant of it. I let it exist because it has a right to. But that doesn't mean I have to like it.

But its ironic, the chicken guy has a view, and a belief, but you seem to be rather intolerant of it. That make you a bigot as well?

If you wish it didn't exist, guess what. That means you AREN'T tolerant of it. Wishing that something you dislike would stop existing isn't fair, objective, or permissive at all. You're saying "I don't like that thing, I wish it didn't exist. Fuck everyone who does like it because I do not like it and I am the only one that matters."

That's about as far from tolerating rap as you can get. :/

 

[Shoggoth2588]

I don't think I wanted to see Jim fucking a Sonic plush. It was another good episode Jim and hopefully you can get the taste of hating gay people out of your mouth. Speaking of this episode, I love Legend of Zelda but I hated the DS games. I also hate how Wind Waker, Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess and, Skyward Sword take forever to 'begin'. Ocarina of Time threw you into the first dungeon within 15 minutes. You're not even properly dressed in that space of time for the others I listed above.

 

[carnex]

The founder actively funds campaigning against gay marrage. That is a little more than disliking it.

The real issue is that he is actively trying to prevent something that benefits others and doesn't hurt him, or anyone else. This is not tolerance. How can someone else getting married diminish the meaning of marrage? You might as well prohibit Rap from being allowed to be awarded at the grammies since it would dimish the meaning of music, based on your taste of the genre. (although I think the grammies themselves diminish the value of music, but that's another conversation).

Anyway I don't want to derail this thread so I don't plan to reply anymore, but you can feel free to PM me if you have anything else to point out.

See Jim. This is what happens when you add a little tidbit comment that is completly unrelated. How am I suppose to stop myself from responding

First of, if you actively support your point of view, and gay marriage is strictly point of view issue, you are not bigot, you are activist.

If you look at the marriage in naturalistic terms, gay marriage is out of the question. If you look at the marriage at today's social values, that, why not. Marriage is a farce anyway.

Problem is, that for me, and throughout most of history, marriage was never about some undying love of some other romantic story, but about family. A safe environment for raising children between two people who can live together for most of their lives. It failed quite often mind you, but we are people, piles of meat with severely flawed control protocol. In that light homosexual marriage is highly problematic even if people have no problem with homosexuals themselves (like me).

To be bigot you have no rational reason to fight against something and do it out of hatred, ignorance or feeling of superiority.

Then, because I believe marriage has a certain purpose which homosexual marriage can not fulfill I am idiot, bigot or whatever label you want to stick on me? I'm afraid you have problem with people's opinions, not me.

 

[carnex]

If you wish it didn't exist, guess what. That means you AREN'T tolerant of it. Wishing that something you dislike would stop existing isn't fair, objective, or permissive at all. You're saying "I don't like that thing, I wish it didn't exist. Fuck everyone who does like it because I do not like it and I am the only one that matters."

That's about as far from tolerating rap as you can get. :/

Wishing something, or someone doesn't exist doesn't mean you are intolerant. We all wish someone dead or something gone from this world. We are human beings, that's what we do. Wishing something and doing something is not the same.

I wish some music genres gone. And I know most of them will be gone in a while. Time does not tolerate bad stuff, for the most part. Am I a bad person because of that? I liked rap because of what it was, I hate what it's now and I wish today's rap was gone and I am against homosexual marriage. There, label me as you like, but consider for a second my point of view before you spit into the wind.

 

[girzwald]

That's may be the definition of bigot. But sorry, just because you don't approve of gay marriage does not mean you are a bigot. Do tell me how believing in something means you are automatically INTOLERANT of the opposite. Maybe what you need is to learn what TOLERANCE means.

Tolerance: a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry.

I hate rap. Hate, hate, hate it. Think its crap that all sounds the same and I wish it didn't exist But guess what. Still tolerant of it. I let it exist because it has a right to. But that doesn't mean I have to like it.

But its ironic, the chicken guy has a view, and a belief, but you seem to be rather intolerant of it. That make you a bigot as well?

If you wish it didn't exist, guess what. That means you AREN'T tolerant of it. Wishing that something you dislike would stop existing isn't fair, objective, or permissive at all. You're saying "I don't like that thing, I wish it didn't exist. Fuck everyone who does like it because I do not like it and I am the only one that matters."

That's about as far from tolerating rap as you can get. :/

I like how you highlighted and took out of context one part of what I said but obviously ignored "But I let it exist BECAUSE IT HAS A RIGHT TO" Meaning, I recognize that it has a right to exist and I have no right to make it not exist.

Sorry, that's not far from being tolerant. That's quintessential tolerance.

 

[godofslack]

Problem is, that for me, and throughout most of history, marriage was never about some undying love of some other romantic story, but about family. A safe environment for raising children between two people who can live together for most of their lives. It failed quite often mind you, but we are people, piles of meat with severely flawed control protocol. In that light homosexual marriage is highly problematic even if people have no problem with homosexuals themselves (like me).

Then, because I believe marriage has a certain purpose which homosexual marriage can not fulfill I am idiot, bigot or whatever label you want to stick on me? I'm afraid you have problem with people's opinions, not me.

Why can't gay people raise children? With adoption and in the future perhaps even the possibility to have children that are truely the sum of the two partners. Being able to biologically to reproduce shouldn't be a factor.

 

[daxterx2005]

"cigar chomping"

Who chomps cigars....?

 

[Aurora Firestorm]

...You said Konami was horrible, now I have to declare some war because Metal Gear Solid is the best thing *ever.*

Joking, but Konami isn't pure horrible evil or something.

Edit: Dammit, guys, why did you have to take a video games thread and turn it into a gay marriage thread? >< I think I can sum this up as, "We're all 21st century liberals here, except those who aren't, and neither side will be convinced."

 

[Skops]

I agree with almost everything said here, just one minor nagging issue: Just what is the 'problem' with the PS3/PSP's XMB? I think it's remarkably easy to follow and sorts everything how would sort them.

 

[irishda]

I don't understand the hatred behind Day one DLC, or even DLC in general. I've never seen DLC that was inherently necessary to something the game had to offer, so my opinion's always been, if you hate spending the money on it, don't buy it.

Before you bring up the analogy of "It's like if movies charged extra to see certain scenes", bear in mind they already do (extended edition dvds). Yet, movie fanatics aren't going, "Oh my god, this is an outrage, they're charging us more money to include scenes they already made." Because, and this is important, if the extra money is an issue, they don't spend it. They buy the regular version or whatever.

 

[Shiro No Uma]

How dare Chick-Fil-A support the idea that traditional marriage should be between a man and a woman, truly they are bigots of the highest order *sarcasm.

Who said that? I certainly didn't. I said their chicken tastes like hating gay people, and that the hating of gay people smells like fucking shit.

I stand by that claim. It has been lab-tested.

I just started watching Jim's videos retro actively because of this episode being recommended to me......and I think that he might be my Soul Caliber mate. Great ideas that few are willing to discuss with the people supporting this industry.

 

[bigfatcarp93]

Goddamn, imagine how much better the game industry would be if everyone just listened to Jim.