Joining the glorious PC Master Race
- Thread starter Ranorak
- Start date
Recommended Videos
I would suggest NOT going for a controller 
I suppose there are some games that work better with it, for sure, so I'm not sure if my struggling along with mouse/keyboard in these situations is just because I really HATE controllers, or some other factor.
Stick to the mouse and keyboard (quick group controls - ctrl+1 and such - and lots of keys to have as shortcuts to numerous bits and pieces) unless there's a game you think you definitely couldn't play on a mouse/keyboard setup.
I suppose there are some games that work better with it, for sure, so I'm not sure if my struggling along with mouse/keyboard in these situations is just because I really HATE controllers, or some other factor.
Stick to the mouse and keyboard (quick group controls - ctrl+1 and such - and lots of keys to have as shortcuts to numerous bits and pieces) unless there's a game you think you definitely couldn't play on a mouse/keyboard setup.
I'm honestly shocked, I swear I had heard it used multiple times before 08, in high school fanboyism was at its worst when the 360 and ps3 first came out and I had 2 pc friends who swore by their towers pc would always be better. The conversations were hilarious to watch so I didn't mind at the time.Cerebrawl said:
But I'll concede that point, your factual proof is greater than my subjective memories at this point.
Regardless of what bitter console plebs bring up, welcome to the master race.
Remember, one must have patience and a sense of humour when dealing with lower races.
In terms of a controller.
Well, you're on a PC, given ultimate flexibility, you can use literally whatever you want as an input, you're not limited to what Microsoft or Sony can afford to sell you.
For wireless. Look into Bluetooth technology, a lot of motherboard have this by default, and if not, a USB dongle (hehe) can be purchased for a few dollars.
PS3 controller supports Bluetooth and thus can be connected right off the bat, and configured to function as if it were an Xbox device and thus have automatic support on games.
Xbox controllers, plug them right in, they'll be detected and work straight away.
Beyond that, want to use a steering wheel for your FPS? Go right ahead, just configure the specific inputs to whatever keys you want on the keyboard.
Want to control the game with your mind?
Look into Emotiv!
http://emotiv.com/
Want to move your head around and have your character's view change accordingly?
Look into TrackIR
https://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/
Ultimate in one-handed gaming? Look into modding a 3D Mouse to do your bidding!
http://www.3dconnexion.co.uk/
The possibilities, really are quite endless! And there's nothing beyond a little bit of effort to stop you from doing any of it.
Remember, one must have patience and a sense of humour when dealing with lower races.
In terms of a controller.
Well, you're on a PC, given ultimate flexibility, you can use literally whatever you want as an input, you're not limited to what Microsoft or Sony can afford to sell you.
For wireless. Look into Bluetooth technology, a lot of motherboard have this by default, and if not, a USB dongle (hehe) can be purchased for a few dollars.
PS3 controller supports Bluetooth and thus can be connected right off the bat, and configured to function as if it were an Xbox device and thus have automatic support on games.
Xbox controllers, plug them right in, they'll be detected and work straight away.
Beyond that, want to use a steering wheel for your FPS? Go right ahead, just configure the specific inputs to whatever keys you want on the keyboard.
Want to control the game with your mind?
Look into Emotiv!
http://emotiv.com/
Want to move your head around and have your character's view change accordingly?
Look into TrackIR
https://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/
Ultimate in one-handed gaming? Look into modding a 3D Mouse to do your bidding!
http://www.3dconnexion.co.uk/
The possibilities, really are quite endless! And there's nothing beyond a little bit of effort to stop you from doing any of it.
The beauty of PC gaming is, as long as you're willing to put in the effort, you can do just about anything.Ranorak said:
So my advice is: pick the controllers you're comfortable and most familiar with and use those. Odds are that there's already official drivers or community work-arounds that will enable you to use that controller on your PC.
While I agree with much of the rest of your post, the thing is....Yahtzee did actually coin the term; in so far as the meme is concerned.gmaverick019 said:
Do you know why everyone recommends getting a 360 controller for your PC? Because you're mostly going to be playing console ports on it. Most PC gamers are still console gamers, just playing with higher resolutions and better frame rates. Despite what they tell themselves, they're still playing gussied up hand me downs.
yeah I didn't edit my original post but someone did notify me of this, I'm still surprised, it honestly feels like I heard the term way before then, but then again what do I subjectively know. (and I hadn't even heard of Yahtzee until the end of 09', so it's not like I could have picked it up from him subconsciously.)Vigormortis said:
Sadly, I noticed that other post after I'd posted mine, so...gmaverick019 said:
My B.
And to be fair, he coined the term roughly six years ago. Given how prevalent it's become; ironically, unironically, and even referentially outside it's original meaning; it's not hard to see why one might forget or not be aware of it's origin.
Minecraft, Terraria, FTL, just about every MMO ever, The Witcher, MechWarrior, Starcraft, Dota, League of Legends, Torchlight, Diablo, Hard Reset, Killing Floor, Painkiller, Payday, Amnesia, Homeworld, Company of Heroes, Outlast, Project Zomboid, Rust, DayZ, Hawken, Starbound, Sins of a Solar Empire, Civilization V, Freespace, and hundreds if thousands of other PC exclusives or PC originals that I dare not even attempt to list lest I go insane from monotony....would beg to differ, good sir.Exhuminator said:
And besides, the reasons people so often suggest a 360 controller are three-fold:
1: It's the only one that has any kind of built-in robust native driver support for Windows. (thanks Microsoft)![footnote]Said with an emphatic smile, two thumbs up, and not a HINT of sarcasm. Nope. No sarcasm at all...[/footnote]
2: It's one of the few "standard" controllers that people are familiar with; especially if they're coming from gaming on consoles.
3: A lot of people aren't even aware of the vast array of other controller options available on PC.
But please, continue to condescend to PC gamers as if you know what the hell you're talking about. It makes you seem so very mature.
Welcome to another side of gaming where you can do no wrong I suppose?, I mean from what I've seen near the end of page 1 and the rest of this page, there is nothing that can ever go wrong and that the gamer can do wrong in PC gaming, I'll likely be proven right in either a few minutes and hours with the usual reply from someone on here.
Cannot see this thread ever talking down another side, no sir not at all.
Cannot see this thread ever talking down another side, no sir not at all.
Shadow-Phoenix said:
Nothing can ever go wrong that can't be fixed.
Hardware breaks? Nothing new, happens to every form of hardware, at least now you don't have to buy a whole new console to replace the broken part.
Software issues? Not had these in a while, but, usually it's something simple, and easily solved, worst case, the internet has a massive and open community, and you can just ask people.
Last issue I had was with some indie game, to fix it, all I had to do was close a graphics card monitoring program.
PC Gaming has its issues, absolutely, but, the idea that it's somehow magnitudes more buggy than consoles? Pretty much complete bullshit.
Why do you seem to take issues with computer hardware? What's wrong with something being objectively better and people discussing it's objective advantages over another format?
And if you're so sure about PCs having some hidden downfall we're not mentioning, why don't you tell us?
What can a console do, that a PC absolutely can't do better or has no equal to?
Says the guy who devolves into ad hominem tactics.Vigormortis said:
Console and PC gaming are equal for different reasons. Neither is more glorious or masterful then the other. To believe otherwise is purely elitist and toxic. This comes from a guy who owns three gaming PCs and lots of various consoles, and has been gaming since 1983, so yeah I have a clue buddy.
I think this is the crux of my memory fogginess, the damn phrase is used in so many different ways (thank god most of the time it's used ironically as a joke.) that it's just implanted everywhere in my brain like a sleeper agentVigormortis said:
*twitches*
MUST.KILL.CONSOLE.PEASANTS.
fixed, pretty sure you meant to put the no in there.Shadow-Phoenix said:
Master PC gamer chief, reporting for duty at 1006 hours. *Salutes*
what other side? he was making a light hearted joke and was simply asking advice on what kind of controllers to get for a pc so he doesn't misspend money on something that won't work well. What other side could you possibly referring to?
The peasant pad is the best for PC (bet master race are really hoping that valve pad isnt crap, that or it will just be a 360 pad knockoff). Now all you have to do is beg for console games now like GT5 or whatever. Hee hee. I kid, a little bit anyway. 360 pad is the best for PC. Apart from Steam, also sign up with GOG for your non-DRM gaming needs, and some nice freebies every now and then plus classics. Also they sell for cheaper than Steam, so i like them for that.
Now all you have to do is beg for console games now like GT5 or whatever. Hee hee. I kid, a little bit anyway. 360 pad is the best for PC. Apart from Steam, also sign up with GOG for your non-DRM gaming needs, and some nice freebies every now and then plus classics. Also they sell for cheaper than Steam, so i like them for that.
Says the guy that doesn't actually quote me, thus not alerting me to your new post.Exhuminator said:
Ad hominem? Please. That's the cry of someone who has no counter-point to the argument against their claims.
I refuted your assertion. So unless you only bothered to read the end of my post, your "devolves into ad hominem tactics" claim is ridiculous.
Well, "buddy", I never said one was better than the other. I game on PC and consoles and hold no person to their platform of choice. You're putting words into my mouth.
In fact, all I did was point out how utterly and objectively wrong your original assertions were. Something you've yet to counter-argue.
So...care to share with the class why we should accept your original claims at all or are you going to just keep changing the topic and presenting strawman arguments?
There's no point in being histrionic about the history of PC gaming, I'm not talking about history. I'm talking about modern times and the way things are now.
My point is simple. The majority of folks who are new to PC gaming, are actually mainly playing console ports on their PC. That's why they need a 360 pad, instead of a mouse & keyboard. Most people are treating their PCs as souped up console game players. They're mainly playing console ports with better frame rates and higher resolution. That's not my opinion, that's pure fact based on sales of PC games for the past many years.
If you play AAA PC games, it's most likely they are ports. Look at how many of those have console versions. Now look at when the console versions were released, it's before the PC version was. That's because the PC version is the port. Ask yourself how many of the indie PC games you're playing are also available on XBLA, PSN, or eShop. Then look and see when said indies were released on those online stores, it's most likely before they ported to PC.
Right now the biggest selling PC game is Titanfall. The game is also on Xbox One (and 360...). Funny how the biggest selling PC game is also on console. Then again, that's been the case for years. The number one selling PC game is almost always a port of the number one selling console game. Don't think so? Right now the number one most requested PC game is Dark Souls II, which is a console game, factually.
I'm not saying consoles are better than PC. But I am saying the vast majority of "master race" PC gamers are being amazingly hypocritical if they do really think console gamers are somehow beneath them. Because according to sales data, most PC gamers are actually playing the same games the console gamers are, just turbocharged and belated.
My point is simple. The majority of folks who are new to PC gaming, are actually mainly playing console ports on their PC. That's why they need a 360 pad, instead of a mouse & keyboard. Most people are treating their PCs as souped up console game players. They're mainly playing console ports with better frame rates and higher resolution. That's not my opinion, that's pure fact based on sales of PC games for the past many years.
If you play AAA PC games, it's most likely they are ports. Look at how many of those have console versions. Now look at when the console versions were released, it's before the PC version was. That's because the PC version is the port. Ask yourself how many of the indie PC games you're playing are also available on XBLA, PSN, or eShop. Then look and see when said indies were released on those online stores, it's most likely before they ported to PC.
Right now the biggest selling PC game is Titanfall. The game is also on Xbox One (and 360...). Funny how the biggest selling PC game is also on console. Then again, that's been the case for years. The number one selling PC game is almost always a port of the number one selling console game. Don't think so? Right now the number one most requested PC game is Dark Souls II, which is a console game, factually.
I'm not saying consoles are better than PC. But I am saying the vast majority of "master race" PC gamers are being amazingly hypocritical if they do really think console gamers are somehow beneath them. Because according to sales data, most PC gamers are actually playing the same games the console gamers are, just turbocharged and belated.