Judge beats daughter, internet has her back

[emeraldrafael]

I can see two things wrong with this.

A) She did technically break the law, so really no one should be defending this girl for being punished for committing an illegal action that her father (as a judge) knew all to well could give her a prison sentence.

B) the mother said shes really sorry and isnt being held accountable even though she should have done something. This is just as much her fault as it is the fathers, more so hers in fact because she left the daughter alone in that situation and didnt fight to take her daughter away.*

*and dont say "well her father is a judge so he'd rig the system" cause if thats true this guy is just gonna skate on by regardless.

The belts a bit unnecessary, but what this girl did was illegal and wrong, and she does deserve to be punished. to the extent the father took it? certainly not, and his actions are overkill. But she does deserve punishment.

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

The wife should be held responsible for what she did, she's a coward.

While she is not by any means guiltless, I think this is one of those situation where you can't really judge unless you've been in their shoes. The real damage abuse like this (which I assume the wife was also a victim of several times) is not physical, it's psychological. The aim of it is to make you feel so worthless and pathetic, that you think that you are nothing without this authoritarian figure guiding you. As a result you will do almost anything they say. Bear in mind also that if she had tried to stop him she may only have succeeded in just making him even more angry, and that could have meant someone ending up seriously injured, or worse. In a roundabout way, being complicit to her husbands actions may have been the best way of protecting her daughter from further harm.

 

[LadyDeadly]

Serve his head on a silver plate i say~

What kind of worthless father would do that to his child.
Well he's going to internet hell anyways by the looks of it~

 

[Jesse Gunn]

I have no idea if under the law in that area at that time he had the right to use a belt. If he did, while I don't agree with what he did, it was her choice to punish her for breaking the law. Certainly a judges daughter breaking the law is not a ood thing.

If he wasn't legally allowed to use that kind of force, why would she upload it instead of handing it over to the authorities to have him criminally charged?

As for the wife, she is 100% responsible for what she did. Any excuses she has are BS, as proven by the fact she was inisting on helping with the beating even though her husband wanted to handle it.

You read my mind. There's a lot missing here.

The authorities are always looking favor of their own, my friends dad abused him and childservices did nothing because he was a cop. OT: This is why I hate authority figures in the government they tend to be abuse with any power on any level.

OK... but there's still a whole lot missing here.

really? it'd be hard to be any more straight forward. at all. i think she did really, really well for a terrified 15 year old in setting a recording trap for ol' Judgie dad when she heard him on the warpath.

I'll bet he forced her to smile quietly for election shots all the time while gripping her shoulder just a little too tightly. here's to judge adam's unelection campaign!

 

[kurupt87]

I have no idea if under the law in that area at that time he had the right to use a belt. If he did, while I don't agree with what he did, it was his choice to punish her for breaking the law. Certainly a judges daughter breaking the law is not a good thing.

If he wasn't legally allowed to use that kind of force, why would she upload it instead of handing it over to the authorities to have him criminally charged?

As for the wife, she is 100% responsible for what she did. Any excuses she has are BS, as proven by the fact she was inisting on helping with the beating even though her husband wanted to handle it.

The thing is though, is that even if it was legal to do this, what he did was assault. That's pure domestic violence. I am a strong advocate of spanking, believing that many of the so called psychological studies that show its negative effects on children to be narrow minded, not taking in the whole picture.

But when you come AFTER your daughter, when the discipline leave physical injury (in this case severe bruising and/or lacerations), when the father says "I'm gonna go get a knife," etc., this is all clearly abuse/assault/domestic violence. Whatever you want to call it, this is simply not right and not legal. He should be in jail.

I agree with the point about the mother too. Even if she WAS psychologically manipulated, in this video she doesn't exhibit the behavior of someone who is (they don't usually "take charge"). Never mind that, with that logic, a crack head shouldn't be condemned for stealing to try and get cracked. He's hooked; without professional help he can't get better and he can literally DIE if he tries to stop. But it's still his choice. His problem. His consequences.

I wouldn't be so harsh on the mum. She tries to make the girl take one hit from her and be done. Also, listen to what she says; everything she says is defensive. It isn't offensive, what she is saying strikes me as what you'd say if you were afraid for yourself. "Back him up or I'm next" type of vibe is what I get from her tone and what she says. "Better she takes one hit from me than loads from him" for her hitting the girl too.

I'd also normally jump on a chance to show that women can be as horribly cuntish as any bloke too so, take that as you will.

Vis a vis you on spanking, yeah I agree. Spanking stops at around 10 or so. Past that and to keep its viability you have to go from painless shock to painful submission. That's where it goes from discipline to abuse.

 

[Torrasque]

So, sit back and enjoy the internet superheroes or submit it to your local news if you live in Texas (especially in/near Rockport).

Wait, this happened in Texas?
LOL! What is with Texas this week?!
Whats next? Is there going to be a famous Texas politician saying something incredibly stup-
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/4d483d7b4bd7c88a6d320000/ron-paul.jpg
"Ah shit..."

 

[Omnific One]

Seriously, why do we still allow this in modern society? This is so backward.

9 times out of 10 the beatings are less about punishment and more about the parent venting frustration about something else.

 

[Sansha]

Domestic violence continues to disgust and offend me.

This guy should hang himself now - he'll be raped a lot less in prison than Hell.

 

[lacktheknack]

I have no idea if under the law in that area at that time he had the right to use a belt. If he did, while I don't agree with what he did, it was her choice to punish her for breaking the law. Certainly a judges daughter breaking the law is not a ood thing.

If he wasn't legally allowed to use that kind of force, why would she upload it instead of handing it over to the authorities to have him criminally charged?

As for the wife, she is 100% responsible for what she did. Any excuses she has are BS, as proven by the fact she was inisting on helping with the beating even though her husband wanted to handle it.

You read my mind. There's a lot missing here.

The authorities are always looking favor of their own, my friends dad abused him and childservices did nothing because he was a cop. OT: This is why I hate authority figures in the government they tend to be abuse with any power on any level.

OK... but there's still a whole lot missing here.

really? it'd be hard to be any more straight forward. at all. i think she did really, really well for a terrified 15 year old in setting a recording trap for ol' Judgie dad when she heard him on the warpath.

I'll bet he forced her to smile quietly for election shots all the time while gripping her shoulder just a little too tightly. here's to judge adam's unelection campaign!

You said "I think" and "I bet". Sadly, you cannot make reality be so.

This also doesn't account for things such as why the mother acted so two-faced. Believe it or not, there's more options than "she was abused".

Also, you still pulled a bizarre non-sequitur when you originally quoted me.

Anyways, my entire point is that I reserve judgement. You won't, as you've already demonstrated, apparently because you hate authorities. Um. Cool story, bro.

Edit: Sorry, thought you the first guy who quoted me.

 

[Saltyk]

I have no idea if under the law in that area at that time he had the right to use a belt. If he did, while I don't agree with what he did, it was his choice to punish her for breaking the law. Certainly a judges daughter breaking the law is not a good thing.

If he wasn't legally allowed to use that kind of force, why would she upload it instead of handing it over to the authorities to have him criminally charged?

As for the wife, she is 100% responsible for what she did. Any excuses she has are BS, as proven by the fact she was inisting on helping with the beating even though her husband wanted to handle it.

The thing is though, is that even if it was legal to do this, what he did was assault. That's pure domestic violence. I am a strong advocate of spanking, believing that many of the so called psychological studies that show its negative effects on children to be narrow minded, not taking in the whole picture.

But when you come AFTER your daughter, when the discipline leave physical injury (in this case severe bruising and/or lacerations), when the father says "I'm gonna go get a knife," etc., this is all clearly abuse/assault/domestic violence. Whatever you want to call it, this is simply not right and not legal. He should be in jail.

I agree with the point about the mother too. Even if she WAS psychologically manipulated, in this video she doesn't exhibit the behavior of someone who is (they don't usually "take charge"). Never mind that, with that logic, a crack head shouldn't be condemned for stealing to try and get cracked. He's hooked; without professional help he can't get better and he can literally DIE if he tries to stop. But it's still his choice. His problem. His consequences.

I didn't watch the video? Did the "spanking" leave visible marks on her? I'm not talking about a red mark, but actual bruising and such. Also, did he say that he was going to get a knife in the video? Because THAT is pretty fucking extreme. That's beyond too far.

Anyway, I'm all for spanking, but when it goes too far and involves belts and such, I get a little squeamish on the subject (as in not fully willing to defend it). I think there is a fine and thin line between abuse and spanking. Though, at 15 there have to be better ways to punish a child. That's too old for spanking, in my book.

 

[jelock]

I can see two things wrong with this.

A) She did technically break the law, so really no one should be defending this girl for being punished for committing an illegal action that her father (as a judge) knew all to well could give her a prison sentence.

B) the mother said shes really sorry and isnt being held accountable even though she should have done something. This is just as much her fault as it is the fathers, more so hers in fact because she left the daughter alone in that situation and didnt fight to take her daughter away.*

*and dont say "well her father is a judge so he'd rig the system" cause if thats true this guy is just gonna skate on by regardless.

The belts a bit unnecessary, but what this girl did was illegal and wrong, and she does deserve to be punished. to the extent the father took it? certainly not, and his actions are overkill. But she does deserve punishment.

Noone is arguing that this girl shouldnt have been punished for what she did, though it was, in the scheme of things, a thoughtless indescretion by a teenager. Would you argue that shoplifting a chocolate bar should get you 20 years in prison? The issue is the extent to which it was done. This girl was violently beaten by her own father. Had it been 1 smack, ok (I, as a father, agree that smacking is not wrong but would NEVER violently beat my child.) Anyone who does anything like this to a child gets everything they deserve and hopefully a lot more.

 

[Jesse Gunn]

I have no idea if under the law in that area at that time he had the right to use a belt. If he did, while I don't agree with what he did, it was her choice to punish her for breaking the law. Certainly a judges daughter breaking the law is not a ood thing.

If he wasn't legally allowed to use that kind of force, why would she upload it instead of handing it over to the authorities to have him criminally charged?

As for the wife, she is 100% responsible for what she did. Any excuses she has are BS, as proven by the fact she was inisting on helping with the beating even though her husband wanted to handle it.

You read my mind. There's a lot missing here.

The authorities are always looking favor of their own, my friends dad abused him and childservices did nothing because he was a cop. OT: This is why I hate authority figures in the government they tend to be abuse with any power on any level.

i hate judges that think this is the way to deal with children

OK... but there's still a whole lot missing here.

really? it'd be hard to be any more straight forward. at all. i think she did really, really well for a terrified 15 year old in setting a recording trap for ol' Judgie dad when she heard him on the warpath.

I'll bet he forced her to smile quietly for election shots all the time while gripping her shoulder just a little too tightly. here's to judge adam's unelection campaign!

You said "I think" and "I bet". Sadly, you cannot make reality be so.

This also doesn't account for things such as why the mother acted so two-faced. Believe it or not, there's more options than "she was abused".

Also, you still pulled a bizarre non-sequitur when you originally quoted me.

Anyways, my entire point is that I reserve judgement. You won't, as you've already demonstrated, apparently because you hate authorities. Um. Cool story, bro.

Edit: Sorry, thought you the first guy who quoted me.

I have no idea if under the law in that area at that time he had the right to use a belt. If he did, while I don't agree with what he did, it was her choice to punish her for breaking the law. Certainly a judges daughter breaking the law is not a ood thing.

If he wasn't legally allowed to use that kind of force, why would she upload it instead of handing it over to the authorities to have him criminally charged?

As for the wife, she is 100% responsible for what she did. Any excuses she has are BS, as proven by the fact she was inisting on helping with the beating even though her husband wanted to handle it.

You read my mind. There's a lot missing here.

The authorities are always looking favor of their own, my friends dad abused him and childservices did nothing because he was a cop. OT: This is why I hate authority figures in the government they tend to be abuse with any power on any level.

OK... but there's still a whole lot missing here.

really? it'd be hard to be any more straight forward. at all. i think she did really, really well for a terrified 15 year old in setting a recording trap for ol' Judgie dad when she heard him on the warpath.

I'll bet he forced her to smile quietly for election shots all the time while gripping her shoulder just a little too tightly. here's to judge adam's unelection campaign!

You said "I think" and "I bet". Sadly, you cannot make reality be so.

This also doesn't account for things such as why the mother acted so two-faced. Believe it or not, there's more options than "she was abused".

Also, you still pulled a bizarre non-sequitur when you originally quoted me.

Anyways, my entire point is that I reserve judgement. You won't, as you've already demonstrated, apparently because you hate authorities. Um. Cool story, bro.

Edit: Sorry, thought you the first guy who quoted me.

there's no rest of the story that could make things like this less horrible. everyone has a point where they make a judgement in their mind and say "ok. this is wrong." for you, that point has not yet been reached, and it's sad.

and i don't hate authorites. i hate that this man is an authority and could be re-elected. a judge, specifically this judge, judge adams.. you do realize he's handed down many judgements on custody, right? how many lives beyond his wife and daughter has he ruined, do you think because of what he was concealing in his own house?

my speculation was completely accessory, but also very logical. it's likely as this topic heats up some old election shots will pop up that reveal basically what i described.

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

If you're not going to watch the fucking video, don't comment on it.

This is child abuse. This guy should be in prison. So should the wife. End of story.

 

[Zhukov]

Yuck. Just... earrg. Watching that makes me feel downright murderous.

It's some comfort that his actions are going to be spread all over. I notice that his contact info is being thrown around like confetti.

Good on the kid for getting the worthless turd on camera.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I can see two things wrong with this.

A) She did technically break the law, so really no one should be defending this girl for being punished for committing an illegal action that her father (as a judge) knew all to well could give her a prison sentence.

B) the mother said shes really sorry and isnt being held accountable even though she should have done something. This is just as much her fault as it is the fathers, more so hers in fact because she left the daughter alone in that situation and didnt fight to take her daughter away.*

*and dont say "well her father is a judge so he'd rig the system" cause if thats true this guy is just gonna skate on by regardless.

The belts a bit unnecessary, but what this girl did was illegal and wrong, and she does deserve to be punished. to the extent the father took it? certainly not, and his actions are overkill. But she does deserve punishment.

Noone is arguing that this girl shouldnt have been punished for what she did, though it was, in the scheme of things, a thoughtless indescretion by a teenager. Would you argue that shoplifting a chocolate bar should get you 20 years in prison? The issue is the extent to which it was done. This girl was violently beaten by her own father. Had it been 1 smack, ok (I, as a father, agree that smacking is not wrong but would NEVER violently beat my child.) Anyone who does anything like this to a child gets everything they deserve and hopefully a lot more.

No, but thats a hyperbole. Im not saying she needed the beating, but she did need punished. I'd actually say that somewhere inside him, the judge thought he was doing his daughter a favor by keeping her from the court system for this (and arguably so, but then you get into justifications and assumptions and it just gets messy and counterproductive in the end). Both parties are at fault (three if you want to include that wife who ran), and yet this girl is garnering sympathy when in the age of piracy and illegal downloads/torrents and etc. and its evils she should be condemned (albeit for a different crime than her fathers). especially since she grew up under a judge, she should know what is and isnt illegal.

abuse is never right, but then again, neither is illegal activities on the web.

in fact, i even said in my post you quoted what the father did was too much

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The belts a bit unnecessary, but what this girl did was illegal and wrong, and she does deserve to be punished. to the extent the father took it? certainly not, and his actions are overkill. But she does deserve punishment.

 

[Keepeas]

Anybody who likes technology is a friend of mine.
Anybody who beats and abuses others, especially family, is an enemy.
Anybody who takes laws too seriously is a warped mind.

Remember, laws were made by people.
People make mistakes.
Laws can contain mistakes.

 

[astrav1]

"the fact that this was filmed at all makes me think it's faked."

i think you mean SET UP BY THE GIRL TO PROVE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

give ONE reasonable scenario for how this could have been faked.

who was there?
- the girl, and she was 15 when she filmed this
- the mom was involved
- it's judge william adams or, as you bizarrely are convinced, a very, very good impersonator who's also a great actor with no qualms of beating a young girl

how could this be faked, then? No, don't walk away. think about it. think about what you just said. ah!

the girl and the mom hired an excellent fake dad and performed a startlingly real abuse scenario, held onto the video for 7 years, then randomly decided to hit up ol judgey with it. that's what you're saying.

...are you judge adams? he's already called this as "libel" on another forum, which is pretty hilarious because it's a VIDEO OF HIM. Libel only applies to things that are said falsely.

It's appears you don't understand bullshit performance art. It's better not to, trust me.

 

[Cazza]

The wife should be held responsible for what she did, she's a coward.

The wife is brave for leaving him. Are you referring to how she just left her daughter in the care the father. Did you even see that part that says he's a judge. The mother probably fought like hell for custody. A judge is a very fitting parent in the eyes of the law.

 

[Jesse Gunn]

"the fact that this was filmed at all makes me think it's faked."

i think you mean SET UP BY THE GIRL TO PROVE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

give ONE reasonable scenario for how this could have been faked.

who was there?
- the girl, and she was 15 when she filmed this
- the mom was involved
- it's judge william adams or, as you bizarrely are convinced, a very, very good impersonator who's also a great actor with no qualms of beating a young girl

how could this be faked, then? No, don't walk away. think about it. think about what you just said. ah!

the girl and the mom hired an excellent fake dad and performed a startlingly real abuse scenario, held onto the video for 7 years, then randomly decided to hit up ol judgey with it. that's what you're saying.

...are you judge adams? he's already called this as "libel" on another forum, which is pretty hilarious because it's a VIDEO OF HIM. Libel only applies to things that are said falsely.

It's appears you don't understand bullshit performance art. It's better not to, trust me.

actually, i do, and i know it is pretty common. angry german kid comes to mind off the top of my head, or "i love cats."

but you didn't answer my question: on this video in particular, HOW could it be faked? how would that be possible? please imagine a scenario and explain it to me. it's obviously the kid, the mom, and the judge.

option #1: already described. hired fake dad, held onto video for 7 years

option #2: ...brainwashed dad into beating teenaged daughter???

 

[OpticalJunction]

Judge or no this guy is a child, bullying his own child.