Justien Bieber On Abortion and Health Care.

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CarpathianMuffin

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If it weren't for that rape answer, and the mention of Korea, it would've been a fairly competent interview on his part. As it is, those two answers damn him a bit.
 

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Ryouma said:
maddawg IAJI said:
Ryouma said:
Canid117 said:
So he calls the country that made his bank roll evil? Little douchebag.


But once again, i envy and feel sorry for the boy, he is 16 years old and he gets questions like this where people judge him like he is a grown man. he aint he is 16 frekking years old and i am pretty sure he have other stuff on his mind then abortion, Us citi ship, Politic.
He's from Canada, by law up there, he's recognized as an adult. He's 16, I've seen people much younger then him discuss abortion, health care and political ideologies. You can't throw the "he's just a kid!!11." argument at him when he is clearly old enough to form his own opinions.
And i have seen people much much older then him discuss abortion health care and political ideologies and failed horribly on the subjects.

Ok maby we cant trow the he is only 16 arguemnt around all the time but what about this:
He is a 16 year pop star and his day to day rutine is making songs, singing, and 1 day a week *quote from himself in a intervjue* he takes a day to be a KID and hang with friends and play baskeball and whatnot.

You really really think he is so interrestet in politic? and abortion and health care? I cant think for him but i am pretty sure his honest awnser would be no.

And tbh to ask a 16 year old pop star about stuff like this just comes off as trying to put him in a bad light.

Once again not saying its a EXCUSE that he is a 16 year old pop star, just saying the chance is rather frekking big that he got other stuff on his mind then the question asken.

So guys cant we just give him some slack?
First things first, please check your spelling. I don't mean to be rude or anything, but you have several typos in your post and it would help out quite a bit if I didn't have to stop every five seconds to auto correct something in my head.

Second: What point are you trying to make about his routine? A normal child of his age has a job, has chores, has to worry about school, the looming threat of having to choose a college and usually 3-5 hours of homework every night. If he wants to be a normal kid, I'll gladly change places with the guy. He doesn't though, if he wants to leave the music business, he can. But you know what? He won't, in 6 months to a year, he'll probably be negotiating another contract with his record label. He doesn't want to be normal.

A NORMAL 16 year old is usually barraged by a large amount of information regarding controversial topics. Especially during election years. Youths in the US have been doing projects regarding universal health care for several years and have been debating its uses and in the last 4 years, I can bet you that number has increased with news of Obama's health care reform. As for Abortion, its been a hot-topic issue for several months. As for politics, you ever try watching the morning news without ever hearing anything about politics? Every teenager has some minor idea about politics, even if it isn't their primary concern, they usually know a thing or two about it.

Look, you're asking for me to cut a kid some slack and not ask him any tough questions? Why? The kid already has it easy enough. He has enough money to not only retire, but to be financially secure for the rest of his life. He is on easy street, no reason to take the tough questions away from him because chances are those are the only things he will ever have to worry about. Besides, if they get really tough, he could always just say 'no comment.'
 

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Hey cool, my respect for him actually went up a little bit. Completely agree with him on health care, but I'm in England so we have public anyways but it is a lot nicer of a system in my opinion. Can't say I agree on the second point, the "everything happens for a reason" is a bit odd (implying rape happens for a reason?!). Still, I don't want to kick him quite as hard as I did now.
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
Ryouma said:
maddawg IAJI said:
Ryouma said:
Canid117 said:
So he calls the country that made his bank roll evil? Little douchebag.


But once again, i envy and feel sorry for the boy, he is 16 years old and he gets questions like this where people judge him like he is a grown man. he aint he is 16 frekking years old and i am pretty sure he have other stuff on his mind then abortion, Us citi ship, Politic.
He's from Canada, by law up there, he's recognized as an adult. He's 16, I've seen people much younger then him discuss abortion, health care and political ideologies. You can't throw the "he's just a kid!!11." argument at him when he is clearly old enough to form his own opinions.
And i have seen people much much older then him discuss abortion health care and political ideologies and failed horribly on the subjects.

Ok maby we cant trow the he is only 16 arguemnt around all the time but what about this:
He is a 16 year pop star and his day to day rutine is making songs, singing, and 1 day a week *quote from himself in a intervjue* he takes a day to be a KID and hang with friends and play baskeball and whatnot.

You really really think he is so interrestet in politic? and abortion and health care? I cant think for him but i am pretty sure his honest awnser would be no.

And tbh to ask a 16 year old pop star about stuff like this just comes off as trying to put him in a bad light.

Once again not saying its a EXCUSE that he is a 16 year old pop star, just saying the chance is rather frekking big that he got other stuff on his mind then the question asken.

So guys cant we just give him some slack?
First things first, please check your spelling. I don't mean to be rude or anything, but you have several typos in your post and it would help out quite a bit if I didn't have to stop every five seconds to auto correct something in my head.

Second: What point are you trying to make about his routine? A normal child of his age has a job, has chores, has to worry about school, the looming threat of having to choose a college and usually 3-5 hours of homework every night. If he wants to be a normal kid, I'll gladly change places with the guy. He doesn't though, if he wants to leave the music business, he can. But you know what? He won't, in a 6 months to a year, he'll probably be negotiating another contract with his record label. He doesn't want to be normal.

A NORMAL 16 year old is usually barraged by a large amount of information regarding controversial topics. Especially during election years. Youths in the US have been doing projects regarding universal health care for several years and have been debating its uses and in the last 4 years, I can bet you that number has increased with news of Obama's health care reform. As for Abortion, its been a hot-topic issue for several months. As for politics, you ever try watching the morning news without ever hearing anything about politics? Every teenager has some minor idea about politics, even if it isn't their primary concern, they usually know a thing or two about it.

Look, you're asking for me to cut a kid some slack and not ask him any tough questions? Why? The kid already has it easy enough. He has enough money to not only retire, but to be financially secure for the rest of his life. He is on easy street, no reason to take the tough questions away from him because chances are those are the only things he will ever have to worry about. Besides, if they get really tough, he could always just say 'no comment.'

I miss the days when i was 16, and work? nope, 3-5hours of homework? nope did them at school most of the times, chorse? well tidy my room now and then and clean up after myself. do that make me unnormal?

And he have it easy? how can you say that widout knowing his life? you think its easy having the news haunting after you day and night, to know if you say somthing "outrageous" the news is going to have you for dinner.

And money aint all just trowing that out there.
And why ask him the question? What reason is there to ask a pop start of 16 year old that have such a "easy" life, question about abortion, and politic and healthcare?

And yea my english is not the best, if somthing is unclear just ask.
And my "excuse" is that i have dyslexia, working to better myself but its not allways that easy ;) should have seen me a few year ago :p
 

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The healthcare isn't free,as stated by the reporter,it's payed by their taxes.
As a 16 year old,his political and religious views aren't very strong. I'm 13 and I have a better idea of what's going on in our world. And as an American, I take offense to how he thinks our country is evil. He thinks we're evil,while so many of our citizens are off in the Middle-East experiencing Hell.I don't see anything wrong with Canada,but it isn't the best country in the world.
 

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America, do you hear this?
Your healthcare system is so thouroghly stupid that even this tit can see the problem with it, why don't you have an NHS?!
It boggles the mind!

Beyond that, why do we care?
 

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The political parties thing was kinda disappointing. I'm not really that big on politics but I knew about the damn parties when I was 16. Hell, it was part of my education from the time I was about 14. And yeah, the rape answer was just bad...
 

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Zachary Unkle said:
The healthcare isn't free,as stated by the reporter,it's payed by their taxes.
As a 16 year old,his political and religious views aren't very strong. I'm 13 and I have a better idea of what's going on in our world. And as an American, I take offense to how he thinks our country is evil. He thinks we're evil,while so many of our citizens are off in the Middle-East experiencing Hell.I don't see anything wrong with Canada,but it isn't the best country in the world.
The healthcare is free, you know not all people pay taxes so for them its free ^_^
Beside what do you want? a small tax raise and free healthcare, or the system you got now, where the poor or unlucky gets screwed over badly time after time

If you want to se a movie about NHS Watch Sicko, now after you watch sicko go to www.youtube.com and type sicko ekstra or this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4L6-0WRfSA

Now last, ask yourself, why cant USA have NHS?
 

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believer258 said:
Vanalosswen said:
Ah, I remember being sixteen and raised in a born-again Christian household. Had I been asked then about abortion, I would have said the same thing as him. Now I'm older, have lived in the real world for the last five years, and understand there's more grey in that question than most Christians would believe.
May I ask like what?

Now, a woman that's been raped, that's a very gray area. It's still a life, but... she was raped. There's a chance that the kid may be better off not born. And there are other situations, I'm sure - I don't think the technology in abortion should be abandoned.

But in a normal healthy pregnancy where the only thing wrong is that the woman (a woman old enough to support the child) doesn't want it? Abortion is the absolute wrong thing to do, that's a life there. And if she doesn't want it, why not give it up for adoption?
Well let's start.

One quite a lot of people simply can't support childeren regardless of their age, money isn't the only concern, what about simply being there?
It's quite a commonb occurance for the male to simply not want anything to do with the child be it because it was a one night stand, he simply isn't ready/capable of supporting a family.
There are a nimber of health problems that can happen during pregnancy that could kill the mother, the child or even both.
The mother may not even be mentaly fit to look after a child to begin with.

There, is that enough grey for ya?

As for adoption, you do realise that many childeren spend quite a long time in temporary foster care, are often moved around and sometimes never actually get a permanant home?
Now imagine that every aborted baby was instead placed in to some form of adoption program instead, they simply wouldn't be able to cope.
Also many people for some reason or another feel that allowing a child to be born the tossing it out is a far worse thing to do, condemnig it to possibly never knowing it's parents, spending it's entire life wondering "Was I not good enough?", Imagine if the child is adopted quickly, what happens when they find out they are adopted?
Such an event could shatter a mentaly fit adults sense of self beyond repair, imagine what it would do to a child.

At this point I'd like to oint out that I'm actually on the fence on the abortion issue, I simply despise the common arguements used by both side, though the pro lifers tend to be the most short sighted with regards to the whole Abortion vs Adoption thing.

My oppinion can be summed up as thus: Learn to close your fucking legs! or at least use contriceptives.
 

mireko

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Who the hell cares what a 16-year-old pop artist thinks about abortion and health care?

I mean, really. Really. What the fuck.

Let's all go ask taxi drivers about nuclear physics! Hey, Taylor Swift! What is the nature of the nuclear force that binds protons and neutrons into stable nuclei and rare isotopes?

[sub]It's a madhouse, A MADHOUSE![/sub]
 

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katsumoto03 said:
Wow. He actually said rape happens for a reason.

I'm speechless.
http://www.avclub.com/articles/rolling-stone-clarifies-that-justin-bieber-doesnt,52008/

I'm a little surprised that Rolling Stone would make such an oversight.

Or I would be, if this whole matter wasn't completely silly in the first place.
 

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katsumoto03 said:
Wow. He actually said rape happens for a reason.

I'm speechless.
He said everything happens for a reason, that sentence have been used millions of times and yes he used it at a unfortunate time. with that being said.

I am pretty sure that he dident mean rape was a good thing, or that it should happend, or that he want it to happend, or that he really ment that it happens for somthing bigger *a reason*

=3 This is once again showing that what i said was correkt, you say 1 thing wrong in the news and your getting BBQed in the eyes of the public.

Life in the spothlight sure aint just easy road on lifes highway
 

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schrodingerscat said:
What's with all the Young Turks hate? There are few musicians that know anything about politics. It would be a little bit like asking Obama about *politics*.
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Ryouma said:
katsumoto03 said:
Wow. He actually said rape happens for a reason.

I'm speechless.
He said everything happens for a reason, that sentence have been used millions of times and yes he used it at a unfortunate time. with that being said.

I am pretty sure that he dident mean rape was a good thing, or that it should happend, or that he want it to happend, or that he really ment that it happens for somthing bigger *a reason*

=3 This is once again showing that what i said was correkt, you say 1 thing wrong in the news and your getting BBQed in the eyes of the public.

Life in the spothlight sure aint just easy road on lifes highway
... You spelled "correct" wrong.

Anyway, regardless of how often people use that phrase, the quote is still "everything happens for a reason" when talking about rape.

P.S. I know that it was a misquote.
 

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I don't have any issue with what he said. People just love to hate on Justin Bieber.