Kanye West announces bid for president.

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Good, keep that lunatic away from anything of actual importance in the world.
They already let too many in already and that is why we are having the problems we are now. Why do people keep making lunatics rich so that they can do these things in the first place?
 
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So, do I go for the "Taylor Swift is not going to be killed in a drone strike" or the "Oh, so that's why they aren't making any more KUWTK" joke?
 
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They already let too many in already and that is why we are having the problems we are now. Why do people keep making lunatics rich so that they can do these things in the first place?
This is where I get depressingly philosophical and argue that either:

1.) We're in a simulation and it's starting to glitch pretty badly, so we're pending either a reboot or a full system crash.

or

2.) Hell exists. The proof is that we're already there and just don't realize it. The belief that there's something better and worse, maybe, once we die, is part of the torture. Basically, we're all in the bad place and we just don't know it.

I might be depressed because of 2020 in general and more specifically the fact I can't go outside my front door because wildfire smoke has made the outside air hazardous to breathe, I haven't seen the sun barely at all in that week and its been this way for a week it seems.
 
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Maybe it is just a simulation..

If you are having to stay indoors, hopefully you have access to some vitamin D3 supplements to compensate for the lack of sun. 4000 UI D3 is the reccommended, but if you are entirely indoors right now 5000 UI should be fine. If you take a vitamin D supplement, be sure to take it with some calcium as well so that you can absorb it properly. A couple of tums would do the trick if you don't drink milk. They are just calcium carbonate and sugar. Lack of sunlight can cause depression and a good number of health issues, so it could help you get through the rough period. Also try to maintain good indoor air quality with either Air purifiers or at least a DIY air filter/Fan like I linked over in this thread for Revnak since he seems to be having the same problem right now:


 
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C'mon Kanye, just one more step, you can do it. Declare yourself the messiah, oh king of kings.
Actually support this guy, asking to look at people's contracts, see if they're being exploited. Good Guy Kanye
 

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C'mon Kanye, just one more step, you can do it. Declare yourself the messiah, oh king of kings.
Kanye, fuck off with your savior/prophet complex. You ain't Jesus and you ain't Moses. They had actual brains, you don't. Your music sucks. A whole bunch of rappers, new and old are better than you and surpassed you. The Gorillaz are still one of the best bands ever. You suck, go to hell, and take your friends with you.
 
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Kanye, fuck off with your savior/prophet complex. You ain't Jesus and you ain't Moses. They had actual brains, you don't. Your music sucks. A whole bunch of rappers, new and old are better than you and surpassed you. The Gorillaz are still one of the best bands ever. You suck, go to hell, and take your friends with you.
I'm finding this whole saga quite uncomfortable. He clearly needs mental healthcare, and I don't think it's making the world a better place by treating someone's ill health as a spectator sport. We long since accepted that putting physical "freaks" in a circus for entertainment wasn't ethical.
 

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I'm finding this whole saga quite uncomfortable. He clearly needs mental healthcare, and I don't think it's making the world a better place by treating someone's ill health as a spectator sport. We long since accepted that putting physical "freaks" in a circus for entertainment wasn't ethical.
The problem is you got people who refuse to say no or arealways Yes Men. Then you have the ones who want to attach themselves to a personality or make that person or thing part of their own identity instead of having their own. And then you just got people who don't want to feel guilty about anything and don't think and make pathetic excuses for rich assholes
 
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I'm finding this whole saga quite uncomfortable. He clearly needs mental healthcare, and I don't think it's making the world a better place by treating someone's ill health as a spectator sport. We long since accepted that putting physical "freaks" in a circus for entertainment wasn't ethical.
Except this isn't a case of "putting physical freaks in a circus". Using that analogy, this is a case of the freak climbing up on the tallest building he can, of his own volition, and shouting LOOK AT ME!!!! I DESERVE TO BE LISTENED TO AND OBEYED!! So I have far less sympathy for his "plight", since he is literally bringing it upon himself with his own ego and delusions of grandeur.

The only thing that rivals Kanye's ego, is his mental instability, and that is a deadly combination.
 
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Except this isn't a case of "putting physical freaks in a circus". Using that analogy, this is a case of the freak climbing up on the tallest building he can, of his own volition, and shouting LOOK AT ME!!!! I DESERVE TO BE LISTENED TO AND OBEYED!!
You're judging someone irrational as if they were rational. Don't you think that's a problem? Would you give someone suicidally depressed a loaded gun, feeling safe in the assumption that sensible people don't deliberately kill themselves?

The problem is you got people who refuse to say no or arealways Yes Men. Then you have the ones who want to attach themselves to a personality or make that person or thing part of their own identity instead of having their own. And then you just got people who don't want to feel guilty about anything and don't think and make pathetic excuses for rich assholes
Yes, I certainly think there's a good chance Kanye is surrounded by semi-parasitic yes men who facilitate his behaviour, even when it is self-damaging.
 

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You're judging someone irrational as if they were rational. Don't you think that's a problem? Would you give someone suicidally depressed a loaded gun, feeling safe in the assumption that sensible people don't deliberately kill themselves?
No I wouldn't, but that's not what you said. You said you were feeling uncomfortable with how he was being paraded around, at least that was the implication with your "freak in the circus" example. My point is that that is a false comparison. He's not some poor victim, he's orchestrating ALL THIS SHIT. I don't really care that his reason is that he is irrational. My brother is a paranoid schizophrenic, who has tried to kill me and my parents in the past, and has done so many insane, criminal things, that I've lost count over 30 years. But I don't feel sorry for him. HE refused to think there was anything wrong with him, HE refused to take the treatment needed to keep him marginally stable, HE refused to stop living a lifestyle that perpetuated his manic tendencies and aggravated his condition. And Kanye is doing the same thing. I'm 100% certain that his family has TRIED to get him some help, and he's refused it. Given some of the things he's posted accusing Kim of, it's pretty obvious they've tried to reign in his behavior, but they are limited by the law, and him being unwilling to cooperate. And thus, I don't have any sympathy for him. Being crazy doesn't excuse you from the consequences of your actions. And Kanye is standing up on a GLOBAL stage, spouting nonsense and falsehoods, convincing people of dangerous shit, causing serious harm to humanity in a year where we really don't need that shit. So no, zero fucking sympathy for the guy.

It's not OUR fault that he's up there thinking he's the right hand to god and jesus, spouting bullshit. He's the one putting himself on these public platforms. I'm quite certain most people would wish he would just shut the fuck up and make horrible rap music like he used to, instead of spouting his nonsense. But that's not what HE wants to do. He wants to set himself up, for the whole world to see. Well, we see him, and he's a fucking nutjob. If he doesn't like the fact that we find him mentally unstable and a complete loon, then maybe he shouldn't put himself out there for everyone to see.
 
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Being crazy doesn't excuse you from the consequences of your actions.
Indeed not. Unfortunately, what this almost invariably means is that crazy people tend to suffer an unusually large number of negative consequences. I would suggest that as bad as you feel you've had it from your brother, you've had a significantly happier life than he has.

So I'm sorry your brother couldn't do the decent thing of happening to be pleasantly sane for you and your family's convenience. I get that you're frustrated and angry with him, and presumably thus by extension Kanye. But I'm not sympathetic to people taking out their frustrations and anger on others in that sort of way.
 

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Indeed not. Unfortunately, what this almost invariably means is that crazy people tend to suffer an unusually large number of negative consequences. I would suggest that as bad as you feel you've had it from your brother, you've had a significantly happier life than he has.

So I'm sorry your brother couldn't do the decent thing of happening to be pleasantly sane for you and your family's convenience. I get that you're frustrated and angry with him, and presumably thus by extension Kanye. But I'm not sympathetic to people taking out their frustrations and anger on others in that sort of way.
Lol, wow. My convenience? My brother's insanity tore my family apart. It drove a wedge between my parents as they fought over how to try and manage a psychotic adult who would steal, assault and badger everyone around him, at all hours of the day. It made me have to clean up blood from the fight they had in the kitchen, where he tried to choke out my mother to death, and then my father had to wrestle him off of her, getting cut in the process. It made me have to acknowledge that I might have to kill my brother, who I used to love and look up to, because he was a rabid dog, and might show up at my house to try and kill me (which he threatened to do multiple times) or my parents (which he actually attempted to do). It made my parents become so distant that they fought every night, and I had to try and block their screaming out with heavy metal music every night, until they eventually got divorced. And after 20 years of my brother bouncing in and out of jail/hospitals, because the laws about mental health are so fucked up, he was finally able to get remotely stable, as long as he's living under constant supervision in a group home. But only after destroying an entire family, 3 lives, and very likely others that we don't know about, considering some of the disturbing objects I found in his rooms when I would clean them out when he would be evicted. Finding a little girls pair of panties in your brother's apartment, piled up with filth, is such a joyful experience let me tell you. So yeah, it was "inconvenient" to us. Yep, that's the best word for what his actions did to me and mine. Inconvenient.

Fuck off with your condescending bullshit.
 
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Fuck off with your condescending bullshit.
Yeah, that was pretty cold of me, sorry.

But I would still maintain the world shouldn't work where people get cut out and damned because we've got our own shit. Man does not have to hand on misery to man.
 
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You're judging someone irrational as if they were rational. Don't you think that's a problem? Would you give someone suicidally depressed a loaded gun, feeling safe in the assumption that sensible people don't deliberately kill themselves?



Yes, I certainly think there's a good chance Kanye is surrounded by semi-parasitic yes men who facilitate his behaviour, even when it is self-damaging.
Kanye being mentally ill isn’t why people are laughing at him. They’re laughing at him because he’s building his own big top to act like a clown in, as long as he gets to be king clown because he’s a raging egomaniac.

People are going to take the piss on this one, end of story. Man needs a hospital, not the burden of captaining the ship of state.
 
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Yeah, that was pretty cold of me, sorry.

But I would still maintain the world shouldn't work where people get cut out and damned because we've got our own shit. Man does not have to hand on misery to man.
I don't disagree that the world would be a better place if people that need help could get the help. But here's the reality. That help IS out there. But if they don't choose to seek it out, then that's their fault. We can't just force them to get the help we all know they clearly need, because they have certain freedoms regarding their own health. And unless they are doing things that are immediately threatening to others, as in that very moment, assaulting, acting irrational (beyond Kanye's normal irrationality, though if he was saying some of his shit on a street corner he might actually get picked up, but it's ok on a public stage. gotta love religious bullshit), then there really isn't anything anyone can do, but try and mitigate his collateral damage. But that's not what's happening with Kanye. He's pumping millions into some bullshit ministry, making false claims about various things that can ultimately cause long term harm to a lot of people, and spouting religious zealotry in the guise of "faith" and a desire to run for public office. NONE of that is anything we are obligated to just respond with "gosh, what a poor guy, I feel so much pity for his obviously mental instability." Because it's not a harmless set of behavior. I would LOVE to never hear about Kanye again. For him to get his shit together, live a positive, normal, beneficial life for his family and friends. But that's not happening, and the reason it's not happening is Kanye. Nobody else.

You could argue that his support group is perpetuating his insanity, but again, it's not like they can have him committed just for "saying stupid shit and trying to run for president" That's not enough to warrant legal/medical intervention. When Kim shows up with a black eye, or he assaults one of his children, or he decides he needs to have sex with some random person because jesus told him to sire the second coming of jehovah or some such nonsense, so he strips naked and starts humping a random person at Publix, THAT'S when action could be taken to reign him in. Until then, we have to put up with his shit. And for me at least, I have very little patience for that kind of shit, especially when it's on a global stage, and polluting the public sphere with so much negative, insanity, that people are taking as literal gospel, because he's all jesus-y and shit. That's how cults are formed, that end up with piles of corpses and a charismatic leader urging them to kill themselves, or kill anyone who questions their faith. It's how we get conspiracy theories that persist and won't die, that can cause people to not find help they might need, because some jackass like Kanye told them they don't need medical help, they just need GEEEZUS in their heart.
 
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