Kelis slams UK for racism

[RhombusHatesYou]

Maybe he just called her a C-word. It sounds similar, and it's what someone like that would call a woman he thought was over-reacting. That just makes him a jerk.

Possibly a '**** from Kingston'

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Maybe he just called her a C-word. It sounds similar, and it's what someone like that would call a woman he thought was over-reacting. That just makes him a jerk.

Possibly a '**** from Kingston'

Now that sounds more likely. And then he was just being offensive.

Still, hardly a reason to slander 10 million people across the newspapers, is it?

 

[Comando96]

I live in North Wales. The only "racism" here is angry welsh people vocally insulting the English.

Why is racism in inverted commas? It is racism.

Not really, we called it banter. They call us imperial bastards and we call them sheep shaggers. Neither true, both a joke.

Its like calling the French cheese eating surrender monkeys. Just a joke.

So... it's not racism if everybody does it? That argument doesn't make sense.

No, its not racism when the peoples that make up the United Kingdom do it to each other. Its a friendly rivalry going back centuries.

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Kiardras said it better.

 

[Versuvius]

I live in North Wales. The only "racism" here is angry welsh people vocally insulting the English.

Why is racism in inverted commas? It is racism.

The british are all racist towards one another. I view it as a joke. The 'racism' isn't just between our sum countries either. Barnsley (where i live) is considered an area full of illiterate chavs (it is, but not everbody). On a less local scale the north of england is full of inbred farmers and the south are all in bred posh twats. They aren't but thats the stereotype. The irish are thick, the welsh fuck sheep, scots are all fat drunkards. By these the english are just hated in general. Swhy you don't call an irishman British, he will punch you.
Even less local than that, the french vs english thing. They are cowardly, frog eating, cheesy pricks. We are sweary "fuckoffs" and "ros beefs". It IS casual racism, but it's not entirely malicious. Give it good back as we get, and more often than not it's funny for all participants.

If that stopped making sense, hangovers. If it DOES...well i hope you get the point that theres a point where 'racism' stops being 'racism' and becomes international namecalling for the sake of ancient rivalries tret as fun.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

But calling someone Welsh isn't racist. If they are or not. I doubt even your Polynesian friend would be insulted at that.

Most of the Polynesians I've known were Maori so they might take being called 'welsh' as a sideways sheepshagger dig.

 

[Marmooset]

Well, whattya know - looks like the US isn't the only country that shakes the apologists and defenders out of the woodwork when the charge of racism is leveled.

Congrats, UK - with this thread, you've moved a little closer to being the 51st state.

 

[stabnex]

Who the hell does she think she is? Someone assassinate this bimbo.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Still, hardly a reason to slander 10 million people across the newspapers, is it?

Don't ask me, I'm Australian. We can't even give KFC to West Indians on the telly without Americans having a good old sook.

 

[Iron Mal]

Isn't labelling a country racist a racist (or at least discriminatory) action in and of itself?

I read the report of what happened and while what happened to her does sound like the actions of a single racist bastard (to be fair the 'red faced man' did sound like a bit of a prick and was acting in a way I would define as racist) I wouldn't say that this or the fact that no-one rushed to her defense is grounds to say the the whole of the UK is racist.

Let us consider the following:

a) While the UK does have it's own immigration and discrimination issues (including the policies of the BNP) we don't have groups such as the KKK and Westburo Baptist Church so I'd say that if you were going to accuse anyone of being antiquated in regards to it's views on equality then it'd probably be the one that still has very notable hate groups who are active (of which the UK doesn't really have any).

b) The incident allegedly started over the musician in question queue-jumping, is it possible that this summoning of the 'you're all racist' arguement was just a method to get away with doing what she wanted? (I know that not all members of ethnic minorities 'play the race card' and that actual racism does still occur in the world today but this is still a thought to be taken into consideration)

c) She claims that she had these thoughts already about England but simply chose not to mention it until now for 'a lot of reasons', what are these reasons? If you're so disgusted by the 'backwards' nature of the UK then why did you not reveal this earlier?

d) The things she's quoting the aggressor as saying don't actually sound like the sort of things I could imagine someone in the modern world saying (unless they happened to be a time travelling 1800's Texan planation owner), quoting a book about the slave trade doesn't exactly sound like a very effective way to try and insult someone in this day and age.

e) 'probably a disgusting Nigerean' sounds awfully specific to me, do Nigereans look prominantly different from people from other African nations? The only negative stereotype I'm familiar with in regards to Nigereans is the old 'I'm a Nigerean prince' scam (which I somehow doubt was applicable in this situation).

Somehow I get the feeling that we haven't heard the whole of the situation and that there may be more to this.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Still, hardly a reason to slander 10 million people across the newspapers, is it?

Don't ask me, I'm Australian. We can't even give KFC to West Indians on the telly without Americans having a good old sook.

Well, you convicts always did like to stir the septics.

[sub]SATIRE![/sub]

 

[Klodz]

I live in North Wales. The only "racism" here is angry welsh people vocally insulting the English.

Why is racism in inverted commas? It is racism.

Not really. There's little to no racial difference between us. Not after all this time.

Race isn't just phenotypical, it's social. As long as people associate with being Welsh (or people are associated with being Welsh) they continue to be a separate race (according to the very fuzzy definition of race commonly in use, anyway).

So you are saying you don't know the difference between a race and an ethnic group is? An ethnic group has socially based differences.

 

[GoodGodItsAnOxymoron]

It is ridiculous do stereotype a nation because of the blethering of a racist old man. Ive lived in England all my life and ive never once come across a racist incident. I know its completely out of order and that man is clearly a vulgar individual but coming from America, a place that has gained the stereotype for being very racist through decades worth of incidents, she would have come across an incident herself. Furthermore it it much more likely to come across a racial incident in somewhere like an airport than anywhere else so how she can claim that Britain is decades behind progression is beyond me.

 

[lostlevel]

It's pretty bad here in the South West, although it's getting better. Around 99% of the population is white, and people just don't know how to react...generally it's a good reaction, but there's a significant minority that are racist. A small percentage of them will be vocal about it.

I'm from the South West and I'm mixed race but you get varying levels from the abuse from a skin head down the pub to the pikey that compares you to the last black person he saw on telly but it?s all about context.
So yes the man was racist but on the other hand you can?t queue jump in the England that?s just wrong. So both people I could live without ...

 

[Hugga_Bear]

So...Kelis, who was charged for being racist towards undercover cops a few years back gets pissy because she jumped the queue and someone purportedly was racist to her and then those evil people in the queue refused to stand up for the talentless queue jumper?

Yeah. That's what's wrong with Britain today, individual racist fucks. No, the guys a turd if he said that (though...really? I mean, how ridiculous was his insult?) but how the fuck does that justify insulting an entire nation? Pot, meet kettle.

Oh and about the whole England vs Wales vs Scotland 'racism' thing, it's just like one huge inside joke basically. The whole thing is in jest, we give as good as we get with eachother, some people take it too far yeah but in general it's all just for a laugh.

 

[marfoir(IRL)]

Upon reading the title:'Who?'

Reading the article: 'Again, who is this and why should I care?'

In summary: Random person i don't know but may possibly be famous overreacts.

 

[aashell13]

most americans don't take american celebrities seriously. why should anyone else?

 

[EeveeElectro]

She's a vile, screechy, hypocritical, washed up cow who needed something to get back into the limelight.
There are two sides to every story... To me, it sounds like she was making a lot of up or exaggerating to make it sound much worse than it actually is.
People wouldn't want to say anything because you don't know what others are capable of. If you try jump in and defend her, he might have given you two black eyes. It's not just Britain that do it, I don't know many people who would defend a stranger like that.

Shame on the guy for being such an ignorant pig but like everyone has said, a few people =/= a whole country.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Still, hardly a reason to slander 10 million people across the newspapers, is it?

Don't ask me, I'm Australian. We can't even give KFC to West Indians on the telly without Americans having a good old sook.

Well, you convicts always did like to stir the septics.

Well... yes. But as far as I know it wasn't intentional that time. Although with KFC being a US based multinational you'd have thought they might have gone 'uh... what?'... Or maybe they did it to be racist and get away with it because Australians don't understand half of the US's racial stereotypes (we have our own biases to pander to, after all).

Best laugh I ever had was some seppo raging against how racist Australia was because of a picture he saw of a bunch of mediterranean looking blokes standing around a 'Wog Pride' sign and having no idea of the word in Aussie context nor any interest in learning the context. Of course, this was the same seppo who went nonlinear when I said I liked 'a bit of Coon on my sandwich'.

 

[Ickorus]

Im gonna go ahead and reconstruct the situation as to the way it most likely occurred:

She queue jumped, someone got angry and called her a nasty name or two, she responded angrily then the official told her to get to the back of the line and something went off in her head that told her it was all racism.

I think she posted that comment on twitter and later on when people approached her for a full story she made up a bunch of the details to make her reaction not look silly. Another thing to note is she didn't give the name of the airport since if she did her story would be found out to be a load of bollocks.

I would like to point out that if it turns out this event did occur (despite souding like a load of bollocks) that the guy is a single racist prick among 10 million people and hardly representative of our entire culture.

Four things really:
1. You queue jumped so what did you expect,
2. You were on the Isle of White so what did you expect,
3. What possible input could she have thats usefull about the riots in London and across the country.
4. She was in a queue for immigration, so the bloke who insulted her COULDN'T have been from ANYWHERE in the European Union as they wouldn't have been in that queue, so before that stupid woman starts to complain about Britain again, she should make sure it's actually an actual British man insulting her.

Im from the Isle of Wight, sure it's a mainly white population but we aren't racists, most people here really don't give a crap what other people look like or do so long as it doesn't affect them.

Also note: There isn't even an airport on the Isle of Wight anymore so it's actually very slightly impossible for the incident to have occured here.