In the source it doesn't say anywhere that she blames the 'Zangeif' kidwinter2 said:
she asked that her OWN son apologises to him
sorry, but its quite a major point
Kid Becomes "Little Zangief" in Response to Bullying
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she asked that her OWN son apologises to him
sorry, but its quite a major point
So this was the thread that tipped me over to sign up. Hello!
On point - I just want to mention to everyone saying "the pile driver was excessive" that you're looking at things a little too objectively.
When I was the overweight kid being picked on in school, and I had finally had enough, this is almost exactly how I fought back. It stems partially from not really knowing how to throw a punch, and partially from the adrenaline.
This wasn't a calculated move - I doubt Casey took any measure of how much punishment he should deal out. He had had enough, and he stood up for himself. And I'm damn proud of him.
That said, I AM also very glad that the other kid was wasn't hurt seriously. We do stupid things when we're kids. You just sorta hope everyone makes it out of childhood in one piece.
On point - I just want to mention to everyone saying "the pile driver was excessive" that you're looking at things a little too objectively.
When I was the overweight kid being picked on in school, and I had finally had enough, this is almost exactly how I fought back. It stems partially from not really knowing how to throw a punch, and partially from the adrenaline.
This wasn't a calculated move - I doubt Casey took any measure of how much punishment he should deal out. He had had enough, and he stood up for himself. And I'm damn proud of him.
That said, I AM also very glad that the other kid was wasn't hurt seriously. We do stupid things when we're kids. You just sorta hope everyone makes it out of childhood in one piece.
Equal force (at least in the USA) doesn't mean "if they punch you, you can only punch them, if they push you, you can only push them". In my state, it means lethal force versus non-lethal force. If someone takes a swing at you, you can't haul out a .45 and blow their head off, for example, unless you can prove you were in immediate danger of death or serious injury, and that this was the only or best way to defend yourself. That would be a disproportionate use of force, responding to a non-lethal attack with lethal force. However, if someone gave you a shove, you could punch them to defend yourself. Non-lethal versus non-lethal force.Jabberwock xeno said:
What Casey did was respond to non-lethal force with non-lethal force. Yes, the bully could have been killed, that's true. You can kill a man with a single punch to the face if things go wrong, it's still considered non-lethal force because it's not generally deadly. Casey responded appropriately and, I feel, with considerable restraint. He stopped after the bastard was down, after all.
Blegh. She said: "I think you need to back off and leave him, or he'll do the same to you", not just "I think you need to back off and leave him..."Gindil said:
Big difference. Also: she stood there doing nothing the entire time. I don't think she deserves praise.
Learn2Read. It clearly says that the mother of the bully wanted HER son to apologize to Casey for starting the fight.Celtic_Kerr said:
I like this mom. Her bully son got a world-wide humiliation, a concussion, a month long suspension, AND is making him apologize.
Anyway, that's a hell of a slam. Nobody will be messing with him anymore that's for sure.
That was not my intention.Caliban1972 said:
I was explaining how he could have achieved the same result (IE: getting the bullies to fuck off) without having to resort to a risky maneuver that could have ended with the other person being crippled, parlayzed, or killed.
Other than that one move, I think he handled himself almost flawlessly.
At first, he ignored the attacker. Then he asked him to stop. When he wouldn't, he blocked the bully. Then he made a quick and decisive move, and once he did so, he simply walked off.
I'm an honest person, so i'll admit that he handled most of the situation better than I often did in terms of what to do BEFORE you respond, but I feel that when it actually came time to do so, he acted in a way that could have caused a large issue, as opposed to thinking through it.
Perhaps he DID have good control over the bully's body when he picked him up, and knew what he was doing. I wouldn't know, I was always the smaller person, not the larger one.
She'd been standing in the shadows for a while already, if my eyes do not deceive me.Gindil said:
It may be me, but I wouldn't really care if that'd happened to that little fuck.
Also, making a move which is not guaranteed to take out the rat would've been a bad decision, since he had at least three people backing him up. Zangeif would've been in a bad position if that'd happened.
How is this news? kids get into fight at school all the time. I've been in fights, you've been in fights. None of use got a Penny Arcade stip writen about us or a ton of crappy photoshop artwork. Why is this so special?
Besides what do you think this fat kids responce to all this applause will be. My guess he's going to go around school threatening other kids with pile drivers and probably grow up into a twat who throws his weight around.
Besides what do you think this fat kids responce to all this applause will be. My guess he's going to go around school threatening other kids with pile drivers and probably grow up into a twat who throws his weight around.
Because most of us didn't stand up to our bullies, let alone in such an epic way.Djinn8 said:
I doubt it. That boy has way too much patience (only after the third or so blow? I wouldn't have managed that) and seems like a silent introvert kid overall.
Of course, being a girl is a huge flaw!Ultratwinkie said:
Lol, I'm kidding of course, obviously bullying is never alright and of course none of those are flaws, the guy has quoted is obviously nuts
As a victim of bullying myself, I approve of Casey Haynes admirable wrestling moves. Clearly the school has failed him, the parents have failed him, the system has failed him. When there is nobody left to help you but yourself, you do what you gotta do.
Mr Gale decided to keep pushing, and this time he got what he deserved. Casey Haynes has my undying support and admiration, He stood up for himself in a secluded world that had long since abandoned him to his tormentors.
Mr Gale decided to keep pushing, and this time he got what he deserved. Casey Haynes has my undying support and admiration, He stood up for himself in a secluded world that had long since abandoned him to his tormentors.
