Kid Becomes "Little Zangief" in Response to Bullying

[Danpascooch]

So we're celebrating and praising a kid for pile-driving a smaller kid into the ground?

No. We are praising self-defense. Notice that after a bully got thrown on the ground, that kid just walked away, while he could beat him up some more. I respect him for that.

Still, he could have killed the kid if he had dropped him on his head. Responding to a violent person with more violence is natural, but it's not necessary. If Casey didn't retaliate and the video made it onto the internet, then the bully would have no doubt been expelled and his friends suspended.

you were never bullied were you?
if you were you would know that this does NOT stop till you make them. the system in place doesnt work these kids would probily have said he started it and the teachers would have beleaved them due to the fact there are more of them.

Alright no, this is not alright.

We all want to stand up to bullies, and a good punch to the face would have been great, but this could have literally killed the guy if he landed just a little bit differently.

It is sheer luck this didn't become a story about a murder, so no, it's not alright, I sympathize with the kid, and I do think he should have retaliated, but we shouldn't be praising him for using force that could have easily been lethal.

i aggree that this could have gone bad but if he had killed the prick (and yes he is a prick) it would have been manslauter in self defense. Now if this would of happened it would of been tragic that a kid who was bullied killed someone when he didnt mean to but to be fair had it happened it was his own fault and while tragic would have been fully suported by my slef and most people i know.

So bullying means you deserve to get murdered? You'd support murder in response to bullying? Seriously?

I get that capital punishment is a hot debate recently, but capital punishment for schoolyard bullying isn't a debate that anyone is having.

I think you need to get your priorities straight, do you want to live in a world where someone is justified to murder a school bully?

It would certainly cut down on the bullying.

Yeah, murder tends to cut down a lot of things, except maybe the amount of weeping family members, and the amount of murderers.

 

[tycho0042]

wow, apparently the video is hate speech? unless there was commentary talking smack I can't conceive how this could be considered hate speech.

 

[-Torchedini-]

I never said pain isn't a way to learn things, I just said it's not the best way to learn things.

Ha, Pain IS the best way to learn things.
I've seen a lot of people being said that they needed to remove powder from the floor. And that in a hundred of different ways. (I work at a milkpowderfactory.) Even when warned with being fired if they didnt.
And still they didn't clean behind them.

That was until they saw what a powder explosion does to everything they started cleaning.
So if you want people to remember to do something you need to let them see/experience that if they don't it hurts.


Thats also the case with bullies. And everyone thats ever been bullied will understand that.

Like I said, I have been bullied, and the kid who got dropped to the ground didn't in that video. He got up, walked to the camera while smiling and laughing with his friends. He didn't learn anything.

Well I saw a bully limping away and the laughing and smiling was bravado.
And a bigger guy going after casey because casey stood up to the bully.

I agree with you that you can't say if the bully learnt his lesson and if casey's getting payback later or something. But you have to agree with me that bullying only stops if the consequences are severe enough. And sometimes pain is the only thing that is severe enough.
I dare to say that this is one of the times it is.

 

[lord.jeff]

I agree with the self defense, but I don't agree with the internet attention, I've seen several posts on different sites with the kids Facebook or email, and like this article pointed out prank called as well. Guess what thats considered internet bullying, you can't go around bashing bullying and then go on to do it yourself, the kid got what he deserved by being throw on his head, the internet attention given to him is to much.

Not blaming anyone here, it's just a problem I've seen and what'd to comment on it.

 

[Dango]

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I personally believe that understanding can be taught and learned, and violence is completely unnecessary to do this... that's not to say beating someone up isn't an easier and quicker solution, but in the long run it's definitely the worse one.

 

[noble cookie]

Bully deserved what he got, end of discussion.

I hardly think anything else would have helped.

Edit: I'm also glad of all the positive attention Casey's getting on the internet, because i imagine its keeping him in a positive state of mind, and me, because im glad the little shit got owned.

 

[4173]

So we're celebrating and praising a kid for pile-driving a smaller kid into the ground?

No. We are praising self-defense. Notice that after a bully got thrown on the ground, that kid just walked away, while he could beat him up some more. I respect him for that.

Still, he could have killed the kid if he had dropped him on his head. Responding to a violent person with more violence is natural, but it's not necessary. If Casey didn't retaliate and the video made it onto the internet, then the bully would have no doubt been expelled and his friends suspended.

you were never bullied were you?
if you were you would know that this does NOT stop till you make them. the system in place doesnt work these kids would probily have said he started it and the teachers would have beleaved them due to the fact there are more of them.

Alright no, this is not alright.

We all want to stand up to bullies, and a good punch to the face would have been great, but this could have literally killed the guy if he landed just a little bit differently.

It is sheer luck this didn't become a story about a murder, so no, it's not alright, I sympathize with the kid, and I do think he should have retaliated, but we shouldn't be praising him for using force that could have easily been lethal.

i aggree that this could have gone bad but if he had killed the prick (and yes he is a prick) it would have been manslauter in self defense. Now if this would of happened it would of been tragic that a kid who was bullied killed someone when he didnt mean to but to be fair had it happened it was his own fault and while tragic would have been fully suported by my slef and most people i know.

So bullying means you deserve to get murdered? You'd support murder in response to bullying? Seriously?

I get that capital punishment is a hot debate recently, but capital punishment for schoolyard bullying isn't a debate that anyone is having.

I think you need to get your priorities straight, do you want to live in a world where someone is justified to murder a school bully?

It would certainly cut down on the bullying.

Yeah, murder tends to cut down a lot of things, except maybe the amount of weeping family members, and the amount of murderers.

So does suicide.
I don't know the kids, I don't know how long Casey had been bullied or his mental state. But we are in the age of school suicides (and school shootings, but I digress). Given a choice between these 3 outcomes (self-defense/suicide/school shooting) I know which one I prefer.

Was this a situation where it was down to those 3 outcomes? I don't know, but do you? I don't think capital punishment is appropriate for burglary either, but if a person is shot during a break in, wouldn't we give the benefit of the doubt to the person who wasn't in the middle of committing a crime?

 

[GeekFury]

Casey, I take my hat off to you, I had that kinda crap for years being a tall and over weight kid. Kudos Casey, kudos.

 

[AMX58]

that was so funny they should have one with a japanese kid doing Ryu and american doing Guile

 

[ProjectTrinity]

With my "be rid of the trolls of society" mentality, I have absolutely no compassion for the bully. I'm just happy on a fundamental level that he didn't die or face anything serious. And I only say that because he's young enough to change into a better person. If he were any older, I'd have shrugged if anything significant happened to him. Apologies to the "all life is equal" camp, but I don't view things that way.

In related news: This is precisely why I don't run for military or government office.

 

[fundude365]

I'm behind Casey 100%. 200% were it possible. That skinny little bastard needed it shown to him that that kind of shit will not fly.

I've been in the exact same shit as Casey and the only difference was I nutted the little shit-stain who tried it with me. I was never bullied again. Casey can look forward to a similarly rosy future.

Good on you Casey.

 

[Arawn.Chernobog]

Don't care if he reacted violently, I'm with Casey on this one, you can't reason with a bully.

 

[theultimateend]

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I personally believe that understanding can be taught and learned, and violence is completely unnecessary to do this... that's not to say beating someone up isn't an easier and quicker solution, but in the long run it's definitely the worse one.

I believe that too.

Keep in mind that doesn't make it true.

I believed I could control the weather as a kid. I was wrong there too.

 

[fundude365]

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I personally believe that understanding can be taught and learned, and violence is completely unnecessary to do this... that's not to say beating someone up isn't an easier and quicker solution, but in the long run it's definitely the worse one.

That's a mighty high-horse you've got yourself up on.

These kids are in puberty. Not the kind of state that considered, rational decisions are made in.

As you said above we're about as ignorant as everyone else but Casey had probably dealt with this shit for years-kids are cruel like that-and this bully was the idiot who pushed him that little bit too far.

Rage is a difficult emotion to control, I'm 22 and I still have to walk away from something if I'm getting too angry. All the understanding in the world hasn't taught me to deal with my rage healthily.

We can consider the possibilities of what might have happened all day, but the fact remains that everybody is fine.

 

[fundude365]

Don't care if he reacted violently, I'm with Casey on this one, you can't reason with a bully.

word

 

[fundude365]

The mother of the bully recently went on Australian TV and said that she wanted her son to apologize to Casey, saying of the viral video "We don't need this posted everywhere. I would like him to apologize."

Why are you people getting this wrong? The mother of the BULLY wanted the BULLY to apologize to the child he BULLIED.

I can see where the confusion arose-Casey was the last individual referenced, not the bully, before she said "I would like him to apologise."