Kid Becomes "Little Zangief" in Response to Bullying

[Dice Warwick]

it's a simple fact; keep fucking with people, you will fuck with someone who can beat your ass to oblivion, Like a pimp trying to pimp-slap a black-belt!

 

[Kuro Kaze]

Ya done good pig.

 

[Lissa-QUON]

The best thing to do with bullies is to destroy them - turn them into a non-bully...Bullying isn't a matter of picking on the weak - it's picking on a threat. Understanding the threat (why the bully is threatened by you) is very useful to resolving the situation.

It's completely wrong (and not just morally) to stop bullying by means of making the bully afraid. The bully is trying to resolve an interpersonal issue so do him a favor and help him resolve it rather than beating him into submission.

We need to understand that many people find "pacifistic" people threatening since in their mind these people must have some source of power that allows them security without the threat of violence. The strength of pacifists (which I don't believe in but bullies do) is a threat which bullies seek to destroy...

I am going to have disagree with this one. I spent a rather large chunk of my childhood being a punching bag for anyone who decided I stuck out like a sore thumb. Being rather tall, skinny, pale with frizzy red hair and glasses this was a lot of the time. For most of my punching bag career I was a pariah with no friends and didn't fight back. Playing Ghandi didn't ever impress anyone, ignoring them just made them meaner.

I stayed in the same school system for my entire childhood. I had years with the same kids elementary school and up, using the same insults over and over again. Never at any point did my lack of action impress them or win me friends.

Yes, bullies are venting their emotional problems and insecurities onto someone else to make them feel better. This is something that I understand NOW but at the time it didn't matter. Expecting a bullied kid find enough common ground to "convert" a bully is unrealistic. Sometimes the only way for a fight to finish is to end it.

 

[Mittens The Kitten]

That pile driver was beautiful,it brought a tear to my eye :')
I'm pretty sure Casey is currently wrestling bears and grew a glorious beard+'stache combo.

What are you talking about? it was a terrible piledriver.

 

[RandallJohn]

I'm not gonna lie... while I'm glad Casey fought back, I think he went overboard. Last time I got into a fight, I subdued the guy. I didn't suplex him into freaking concrete. I mean, I know the bully had it coming and all, but I dunno. I still see a little kid getting thrown around.

 

[Mittens The Kitten]

I hate to be the guy to say this but
A CHILD ALMOST DIED.

No he didnt. Casey held on to the kid long enough for him to land horizontal. You could throw someone like that all day and they wouldnt break their neck.

That's right, and i should know, because i hold the national record for the child shotput, 30 kilogram division.

 

[Giest4life]

I don't feel Casey's reaction was unnecessary nor his punishment just. The sever emotional trauma a kid can go through, and in some cases, much more than the physical harm that comes off of bullying. Casey did what was right--show the bullies their place. Smack that little shit so that he's picking his brains off the floor. And I believe my last sentence had an oxymoron in there somewhere.

 

[SmileyBat]

Pile driving and all, I thought little Zangief was remarkably conservative in the fight. He tried avoiding confrontation at first, he didn't throw any fists, and most important he didn't continue punishing Gale once he was down and obviously defenseless. He didn't "snap," he handled his business and moved on. Good for him.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Albeit not as epic as my own epicest moment in a fight in school where I punched a guy in the gut in such a way that caused him to crap himself right away, while defending myself against him and his 3, 3 years older than me friends, it is still nice to see that the new generation of people who will actually stand up and fight exists and that we haven't all melted away into a mess of weak people who have others fight their battles.


Oh and I got suspended for that too, so the mentality of blaming the innocent isn't really new, it's been there for over 15 years or do.

 

[SmileyBat]

The best thing to do with bullies is to destroy them - turn them into a non-bully...Bullying isn't a matter of picking on the weak - it's picking on a threat. Understanding the threat (why the bully is threatened by you) is very useful to resolving the situation.

It's completely wrong (and not just morally) to stop bullying by means of making the bully afraid. The bully is trying to resolve an interpersonal issue so do him a favor and help him resolve it rather than beating him into submission.

We need to understand that many people find "pacifistic" people threatening since in their mind these people must have some source of power that allows them security without the threat of violence. The strength of pacifists (which I don't believe in but bullies do) is a threat which bullies seek to destroy...

I am going to have disagree with this one. I spent a rather large chunk of my childhood being a punching bag for anyone who decided I stuck out like a sore thumb. Being rather tall, skinny, pale with frizzy red hair and glasses this was a lot of the time. For most of my punching bag career I was a pariah with no friends and didn't fight back. Playing Ghandi didn't ever impress anyone, ignoring them just made them meaner.

I stayed in the same school system for my entire childhood. I had years with the same kids elementary school and up, using the same insults over and over again. Never at any point did my lack of action impress them or win me friends.

Yes, bullies are venting their emotional problems and insecurities onto someone else to make them feel better. This is something that I understand NOW but at the time it didn't matter. Expecting a bullied kid find enough common ground to "convert" a bully is unrealistic. Sometimes the only way for a fight to finish is to end it.

Seconded. I was bullied because of my race and other non-reasons. While I never got in a fight for my own sake, I've taken bullies for others, such as smaller females. The only way is to fight back.

 

[SmileyBat]

I'm so glad that as a modern society we celebrate acts of violence rather than being, you know, civilized.

I really don't get why this has garnered so much attention though. Not the first time something like this has happened.

If society has progressed to a point where any act of violence is unabashedly refused consideration, that society is not long for this world.

What do you suppose the civilized solution would be? What is your proposal? I would be interested in hearing ANYTHING, ANYTHING AT ALL that would both give the bullied kid a small measure of self-respect back AND perhaps give the bully an actual, visceral reason to, in the future, consider the repercussions of his actions (asking the bully to stop due to empathy towards the bullied is a fool's errand -- that's jumping to the end of the race before it even starts).

Welcome to reality, where VIOLENCE IS NEVER OUT OF THE QUESTION. It may be a terrible decision, it may be the wrong decision in almost every situation, but it's never something we should put out of mind. That's like living your life with the expectation that it will never rain, and that all rain is bad.

This is good violence. This video is making the rounds because, with all the terrible shit going on world-wide right now, it's good to see that at least some times terrible things are used for good ends. Violence in defense of the innocent against the transgressions of the evil IS ALWAYS GOOD.

Without the capability to do violence against those who would do violence to you, there can be no freedom. Period.

THANK YOU.

 

[Flying Dagger]

stuff like this happened to me when I was a kid... should have got someone to record it.
Reckon a video of two 16 year olds picking on a 12 year old (tried to put me in a bin, with tried being the operative word) with an arm in a cast and getting their arses handed to them would be amusing.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Impressive. That Casey kid should look into being a forward for his school's rugby team. Hopefully one of his PE teachers picks him up for it. Nimble hands, decent jaw, and man enough not to lose his cool.

Prime rugby material if he lost a bit of weight.

 

[BrionJames]

Some punk-ass kid tried to punch him...the kid that was obviously bigger than the other finished the fight with a superior attack, I don't see what the problem is. Kudos to him.

 

[Hexenwolf]

...you need to reread the final paragraph. The mother of the bully wants her son to apologize. I also agree that there's no real reason to spread the video everywhere, but we both know nothing's going to stop people from sharing it.

Actually the initial post clearly stated that the mom wanted Casey to apologize to her son. Later on it was edited to what it currently reads as.

Anyhoo... That little punk got what was coming to him and everything else is just so much fluff. I would not be surprised in the slightest if the guy that shot the video did so originally at the behest of the bully and even if that turns out to be incorrect that boy STILL got what was coming to him. Internet infamy or not.

To cluck our tongues at the victim and complain that HE was the one that took it too far is just plain silliness. The way I see it his response was measured. After slamming the bully down he simply walks away instead of really measuring out some punishment.

Also, from what I saw it doesn't look like the victim went "I'm gonna choke slam this little *****!". It appears to me that the lift was a consequence of their relative positioning and not a part of some elaborate technique on his part. I think he simply found himself in a good position and he took advantage of it.

And I say good for him!

Ah, my apologies.

In any case, I agree with what winter said. A lot of people keep saying Casey pile-drived the bully, but I don't think so at all. It looks like he just picked him up, and threw him at the floor. He wasn't trying to do any particular "move," and after that single attack, he didn't try to keep hurting the bully. Basic self defense.

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

Ouch.

Not for the bullied kid, but for the bully.

As much as he deserves to get hit back, he didn't deeserve to be fucking pile driven into concert, he could have been killed.

Thowrn into the wall, maybe, but not headfirst into the sidewalk.

 

[Agent Cross]

What's the bully thinking here? What you gonna do, huh? famous last words

 

[Dense_Electric]

I'm so glad that as a modern society we celebrate acts of violence rather than being, you know, civilized.

I really don't get why this has garnered so much attention though. Not the first time something like this has happened.

The problem is that some people, especially children, are so ethically underdeveloped that they don't understand anything other than violence. Had someone talked to the other kid (which I doubt anyone did, this whole extreme-leftist attitude of no personal responsibility), would he have stopped bullying Casey? Not a chance in hell. But now that someone dislocated his kneecap, think he's going to mess with Casey ever again? Hell no. This idea that "violence never solves anything" is a load of BS. I agree completely, it should be used only as a last resort, when all other methods have failed, but when all other methods *do* fail you don't have another option.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Ouch.

Not for the bullied kid, but for the bully.

As much as he deserves to get hit back, he didn't deeserve to be fucking pile driven into concert, he could have been killed.

Thowrn into the wall, maybe, but not headfirst into the sidewalk.

He wasn't thrown headfirst in the concrete.... His left leg and arm connected with the ground before his head. Bah ... I've seen spear tackles worse than this.

Casey just threw the lad ... it would have hurt, and sure might have broken an arm or leg, but I think it's a bit sensationalist to say 'he could have been killed'.

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

Ouch.

Not for the bullied kid, but for the bully.

As much as he deserves to get hit back, he didn't deeserve to be fucking pile driven into concert, he could have been killed.

Thowrn into the wall, maybe, but not headfirst into the sidewalk.

He wasn't thrown headfirst in the concrete.... His left leg and arm connected with the ground before his head. Bah ... I've seen spear tackles worse than this.

Casey just threw the lad ... it would have hurt, and sure might have broken an arm or leg, but I think it's a bit sensationalist to say 'he could have been killed'.

Maybe, but do you know how hard it is to accuratly control a entire person so that a partgilar part of their body does not hit the ground first?

The fact of the matter is, he COULD have been seriously injured. Did he desrve to be beat up? maybe, but not a freaking concusiion.