Kid Becomes "Little Zangief" in Response to Bullying

[FROGGEman2]

This makes me ashamed to be Australain...

 

[fundude365]

This makes me ashamed to be Australain...

Don't be And keep in mind that's coming from a Brit, don't be ashamed to be Australian. Your country rocks, the people-for the large part-are awesome and you get Casey Heynes

 

[FROGGEman2]

This makes me ashamed to be Australain...

Don't be And keep in mind that's coming from a Brit, don't be ashamed to be Australian. Your country rocks, the people-for the large part-are awesome and you get Casey Heynes

Don't worry, just this video. I know my country is awesome in other ways.

 

[fundude365]

This makes me ashamed to be Australain...

Don't be And keep in mind that's coming from a Brit, don't be ashamed to be Australian. Your country rocks, the people-for the large part-are awesome and you get Casey Heynes

Don't worry, just this video. I know my country is awesome in other ways.

Were I in your shoes I'd say THIS video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHzpQOVzqX0&feature=relmfu

But its a better tourist campaign than England's. At least you sound inviting, can we say anything without sounding arch and contemptuous? We could say "I'll get this round" and it would sound like we were judging you.

[Edit] To illustrate my point; take this video for the 2002 'Visit Britain' campaign into consideration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmaR_pFdFag&NR=1

 

[garfoldsomeoneelse]

I'm so glad that as a modern society we celebrate acts of violence rather than being, you know, civilized.

I really don't get why this has garnered so much attention though. Not the first time something like this has happened.

If society has progressed to a point where any act of violence is unabashedly refused consideration, that society is not long for this world.

What do you suppose the civilized solution would be? What is your proposal? I would be interested in hearing ANYTHING, ANYTHING AT ALL that would both give the bullied kid a small measure of self-respect back AND perhaps give the bully an actual, visceral reason to, in the future, consider the repercussions of his actions (asking the bully to stop due to empathy towards the bullied is a fool's errand -- that's jumping to the end of the race before it even starts).

Welcome to reality, where VIOLENCE IS NEVER OUT OF THE QUESTION. It may be a terrible decision, it may be the wrong decision in almost every situation, but it's never something we should put out of mind. That's like living your life with the expectation that it will never rain, and that all rain is bad.

This is good violence. This video is making the rounds because, with all the terrible shit going on world-wide right now, it's good to see that at least some times terrible things are used for good ends. Violence in defense of the innocent against the transgressions of the evil IS ALWAYS GOOD.

Without the capability to do violence against those who would do violence to you, there can be no freedom. Period.

I like the cut of your jib, and I'm equally fond of all the typing you just saved me.

 

[ctuncks]

S'not a piledriver those drop you on your freaking head, I would say this would be a Gutwrench front slam. Good job on the kid standing up for himself.

 

[FROGGEman2]

This makes me ashamed to be Australain...

Don't be And keep in mind that's coming from a Brit, don't be ashamed to be Australian. Your country rocks, the people-for the large part-are awesome and you get Casey Heynes

Don't worry, just this video. I know my country is awesome in other ways.

Were I in your shoes I'd say THIS video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHzpQOVzqX0&feature=relmfu

But its a better tourist campaign than England's. At least you sound inviting, can we say anything without sounding arch and contemptuous? We could say "I'll get this round" and it would sound like we were judging you.

[Edit] To illustrate my point; take this video for the 2002 'Visit Britain' campaign into consideration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmaR_pFdFag&NR=1

Dolphins appearing out of nowhere

what

that video was so staged it was hilarious THESE THINGS DO NOT HAPPEN EVERY DAY

Side note- It was kinda cool that I could name he place of every single shot in that video...

 

[DevilWolf47]

I had problems with bullies despite my height as a kid, though all i ever did was kick them in the balls or pull cruel pranks. But pile drive? Never thought to do that. If you humiliate them, they don't report you because their ego is too badly bruised.
...mind you i don't advocate spreading rumors that said person ate his dog and then cement the claim by setting the dog loose, calling animal control so the dog is picked up, and then drawing attention to the fact that the dog is missing to add validity to the claim. Nor do i advocate kicking someone in the balls. Unless that person pushed you first, then it's self defense and perfectly acceptable to kick him in the balls. Pit of the stomach also works well. Not as stylish as kid Zangief, but hey. Precision makes up for a lack of style in my book.

 

[Royas]

So we're celebrating and praising a kid for pile-driving a smaller kid into the ground?

No. We are praising self-defense. Notice that after a bully got thrown on the ground, that kid just walked away, while he could beat him up some more. I respect him for that.

Still, he could have killed the kid if he had dropped him on his head. Responding to a violent person with more violence is natural, but it's not necessary. If Casey didn't retaliate and the video made it onto the internet, then the bully would have no doubt been expelled and his friends suspended.

you were never bullied were you?
if you were you would know that this does NOT stop till you make them. the system in place doesnt work these kids would probily have said he started it and the teachers would have beleaved them due to the fact there are more of them.

Alright no, this is not alright.

We all want to stand up to bullies, and a good punch to the face would have been great, but this could have literally killed the guy if he landed just a little bit differently.

It is sheer luck this didn't become a story about a murder, so no, it's not alright, I sympathize with the kid, and I do think he should have retaliated, but we shouldn't be praising him for using force that could have easily been lethal.

i aggree that this could have gone bad but if he had killed the prick (and yes he is a prick) it would have been manslauter in self defense. Now if this would of happened it would of been tragic that a kid who was bullied killed someone when he didnt mean to but to be fair had it happened it was his own fault and while tragic would have been fully suported by my slef and most people i know.

So bullying means you deserve to get murdered? You'd support murder in response to bullying? Seriously?

I get that capital punishment is a hot debate recently, but capital punishment for schoolyard bullying isn't a debate that anyone is having.

I think you need to get your priorities straight, do you want to live in a world where someone is justified to murder a school bully?

Use the terminology correctly. For it to be murder, there has to be intent to kill. What this would be (if the little bastard had croaked it) is manslaughter. Killed by accident, with no intent to do so, combined with it being self-defense. Manslaughter, and low level manslaughter at that. It may seem to be nit picking, but the different crimes exist because the differences are bloody important.

Casey got hit, several times. Casey defended himself, using appropriate force levels (non-lethal force versus non-lethal force, and yes, an unarmed body slam is considered non-lethal force). If the kid had gotten killed or badly hurt, that would have been too bad, but I'd have had to consider it a self inflicted injury. As it is, he's relatively unhurt, and maybe Casey will have fewer bullies to worry about in the future. I sure wouldn't want to mess with the guy.

 

[fundude365]

This makes me ashamed to be Australain...

Don't be And keep in mind that's coming from a Brit, don't be ashamed to be Australian. Your country rocks, the people-for the large part-are awesome and you get Casey Heynes

Don't worry, just this video. I know my country is awesome in other ways.

Were I in your shoes I'd say THIS video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHzpQOVzqX0&feature=relmfu

But its a better tourist campaign than England's. At least you sound inviting, can we say anything without sounding arch and contemptuous? We could say "I'll get this round" and it would sound like we were judging you.

[Edit] To illustrate my point; take this video for the 2002 'Visit Britain' campaign into consideration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmaR_pFdFag&NR=1

Dolphins appearing out of nowhere

what

that video was so staged it was hilarious THESE THINGS DO NOT HAPPEN EVERY DAY

Side note- It was kinda cool that I could name he place of every single shot in that video...

I knew it!

I'm now a little concerned that I can only name about half of the places in the visitbritain video

 

[FROGGEman2]

...
Dolphins appearing out of nowhere

what

that video was so staged it was hilarious THESE THINGS DO NOT HAPPEN EVERY DAY

Side note- It was kinda cool that I could name he place of every single shot in that video...

I take issue with that video in that there is no mention of the vibrant city of Perth which has unique places like King's Park, the Swan Bells, the best CBD shopping with several pedestrian malls including Forrest Chase. A place where each suberb has it's own cappuccino strip (Mt Lawley's one on Beaufort Street is the best IMHO) and where the public transport network is not privatized and therefore bloody good!

Lol, Brisbane.

...Never actually been, I'm a Sydneysider. I can feel your awe.

I'm sorry, but did you not even get a cameo shot? I thought I saw all major cities from the East Coas- Oh, right. You're from the West Coast. HeheheheehehHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA

Sorry, I had to.

This makes me ashamed to be Australain...

Don't be And keep in mind that's coming from a Brit, don't be ashamed to be Australian. Your country rocks, the people-for the large part-are awesome and you get Casey Heynes

Don't worry, just this video. I know my country is awesome in other ways.

Were I in your shoes I'd say THIS video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHzpQOVzqX0&feature=relmfu

But its a better tourist campaign than England's. At least you sound inviting, can we say anything without sounding arch and contemptuous? We could say "I'll get this round" and it would sound like we were judging you.

[Edit] To illustrate my point; take this video for the 2002 'Visit Britain' campaign into consideration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmaR_pFdFag&NR=1

Dolphins appearing out of nowhere

what

that video was so staged it was hilarious THESE THINGS DO NOT HAPPEN EVERY DAY

Side note- It was kinda cool that I could name he place of every single shot in that video...

I knew it!

I'm now a little concerned that I can only name about half of the places in the visitbritain video

AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A PATRIOT

 

[Ninonybox_v1legacy]

If you're not gunna stand-up for yourself, you can't expect anyone else to do it for you.

Oh come on, Anonymous... DDOSing the school? Why?

Because a Zero Tolerance policy is retarded?
Trust me I know

true that....it doesn't exist.

 

[Danpascooch]

So we're celebrating and praising a kid for pile-driving a smaller kid into the ground?

No. We are praising self-defense. Notice that after a bully got thrown on the ground, that kid just walked away, while he could beat him up some more. I respect him for that.

Still, he could have killed the kid if he had dropped him on his head. Responding to a violent person with more violence is natural, but it's not necessary. If Casey didn't retaliate and the video made it onto the internet, then the bully would have no doubt been expelled and his friends suspended.

you were never bullied were you?
if you were you would know that this does NOT stop till you make them. the system in place doesnt work these kids would probily have said he started it and the teachers would have beleaved them due to the fact there are more of them.

Alright no, this is not alright.

We all want to stand up to bullies, and a good punch to the face would have been great, but this could have literally killed the guy if he landed just a little bit differently.

It is sheer luck this didn't become a story about a murder, so no, it's not alright, I sympathize with the kid, and I do think he should have retaliated, but we shouldn't be praising him for using force that could have easily been lethal.

i aggree that this could have gone bad but if he had killed the prick (and yes he is a prick) it would have been manslauter in self defense. Now if this would of happened it would of been tragic that a kid who was bullied killed someone when he didnt mean to but to be fair had it happened it was his own fault and while tragic would have been fully suported by my slef and most people i know.

So bullying means you deserve to get murdered? You'd support murder in response to bullying? Seriously?

I get that capital punishment is a hot debate recently, but capital punishment for schoolyard bullying isn't a debate that anyone is having.

I think you need to get your priorities straight, do you want to live in a world where someone is justified to murder a school bully?

Use the terminology correctly. For it to be murder, there has to be intent to kill. What this would be (if the little bastard had croaked it) is manslaughter. Killed by accident, with no intent to do so, combined with it being self-defense. Manslaughter, and low level manslaughter at that. It may seem to be nit picking, but the different crimes exist because the differences are bloody important.

Casey got hit, several times. Casey defended himself, using appropriate force levels (non-lethal force versus non-lethal force, and yes, an unarmed body slam is considered non-lethal force). If the kid had gotten killed or badly hurt, that would have been too bad, but I'd have had to consider it a self inflicted injury. As it is, he's relatively unhurt, and maybe Casey will have fewer bullies to worry about in the future. I sure wouldn't want to mess with the guy.

You realize that self defense requires appropriate levels of force right? That is, only enough to remove the threat of harm to yourself.

Casey clearly removed the harm to himself when he grabbed the kid, the kid could no longer hit him, after removing the threat, Casey then proceeded to lift him and basically drop him on his head.

Much like you can't shoot someone in the face 5 times for slapping you, this was nowhere near "appropriate force levels"

 

[FROGGEman2]

...Never actually been, I'm a Sydneysider. I can feel your awe.

I'm sorry, but did you not even get a cameo shot? I thought I saw all major cities from the East Coas- Oh, right. You're from the West Coast. HeheheheehehHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA...

I'm sure that you enjoy every 2nd train being canceled because your private public transport operator is fined when a train is late but not when it is outright cancelled. I'll just stick to my government-run public transport network with the only successful RFID ticketing system in Australia; SmartRider http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/TicketsandFares/SmartRider/GettingStarted/tabid/80/Default.aspx

It hurts because it's true

though we have the best dining, that's undisputable

 

[Gitty101]

ULTIMATE COMBO FINISH!!!

Whilst I do not usually condone violence of any form, this made me smile.

 

[Radelaide]

The funny thing is, the school suspended Casey first and was going to face criminal charges.

The worst part: Casey had told the school repeated about this bullshit and they did absolutely nothing to stop it. That little bastard probably didn't deserve the pile driver into the concrete, but he definitely needed a punch to the fucking head.

My friend and I were talking about this the other day after I showed her the video and we both think Casey was (somewhat) in the right. My friend was bullied so badly that she developed Agoraphobia and didn't leave her house for two years. I was also the victim of bullying and tried to kill myself after kids at my school said my father killed himself because of how horrible I was. (He was actually killed in an explosion in a steel-mill.) We had both told our schools and their responses were "You need to try harder to make friends" and "Just ignore it" respectfully.

The "just ignore it and report it" approach that schools have taken on these days is just bullshit and chips because if the bully isn't caught in the act, what are the chances that a school is going to take action? Absolutely fucking none. It's ridiculous that Casey had to take such extreme measures to get this brat to back the fuck off, but at least now he won't be bullied.