Kingdom Hearts Changes
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Uhhh, yeah. All the really cool plot points that Kingdom Hearts 1 set up at the end, with Riku and King Mickey in the world of darkness? This is where all that stuff went. They actually made the GBA in-between spinoff game that nobody played more important to the plot in a lot of ways than Kingdom Hearts 2. For what it's worth it actually does an okay job of balancing out the old crap it lifted from KH1 with new stuff--like Namine and Organization XIII--and Riku's storyline is awesome. I wish they'd left him the way he was at the end of Chain of Memories rather than what they did in KH2, and I wish Organization XIII were half as threatening in KH2 as they were in Chain of Memories. The gameplay is AWFUL, just because it's SO far removed from what you'd want out of a Kingdom Hearts game and the AI is too good at picking cards a lot of the time, but I'd say it's worth stomaching to get those details.recoverytwo said:
At the same time, though, Chain of Memories was Square's biggest mistake with the series and it leeched off a lot of the cool things that could have or SHOULD have been in the second game. "I have an idea! Let's release the next game on a handheld unrelated to the one our ENTIRE AUDIENCE is based on that they MIGHT NOT OWN or even CARE about! And then let's put vital story information in it. They'll HAVE to play it then, right?" I actually DID play it before KH2, but I can't imagine how confused some of you are. :\
I believe that they need more worlds from Pixar movies, battle system like KH1, make the Winnie the Pooh world like how it was in the first game(I love Winne the Pooh), and NO MORE ROXAS(He is beginning to annoy me). Oh and put Kairi a bit more in the story for game play. Lastly (a little off -topic) release Final Mix in English because playing it in Japanese can get boring after a while, especially when my PS3 isn't reading the disk.
NickCaligo42 said:
A friend of mine played it and filled me in before i played the second game, but i always felt like i was missing something.(tho i understand the story quite well.)
i never understood why game companies make games like that it seems like if they used that team to help make the next game in the series they cold get it out faster and probably have more content. Altho im very happy they are making Birth by Sleep.
I have to say I agree on this I would like a return of worlds with their own true story special to Kingdom Hearts. Although I'd like new worlds I would like to see the return of old ones like The Colleseum but thats just me. I would also general combat made a bit harder as the little actions things while great made it way too easy although secret bosses still whoop my ass.zeldakong64 said:
Also i'd to play as other Keyblade Wielders like Mickey and Rikku as I think this would add a new dynamic to it. I wish they'd use the Final Fantasy characters a bit better as I find they are in there because Square Enix helped make it. Auron was used well and Cloud was used alright but they could still be used much better. Also they should put Vincent in it.
Namine was explained in the games. Like said, Kairi's Nobody, though a special one thanks to the fact Kairi lost her heart without it becoming a Heartless.
Also, there might be a good reason for why Ven looks like Roxas. If I recall, one of the Ansem Reports (might be from Final Mix+) hinted there's still the fourth realm and a form of existence (originally it was Present (I.e. "normal"), Light, Dark and Nothingness/Twilight, but KH2 retconned it so that Light is the Present, leaving the last one a mystery) and also that Nobodies still don't die completely and that something remains.
Of course, Nomura has retconned things before or failed to use the mysteries foreshadowed, but if the fourth realm would happen to be "Time", it would definitely explain why there's a teenage doppleganger of Sora running around despite Sora being already born but not older than six.
Also, there might be a good reason for why Ven looks like Roxas. If I recall, one of the Ansem Reports (might be from Final Mix+) hinted there's still the fourth realm and a form of existence (originally it was Present (I.e. "normal"), Light, Dark and Nothingness/Twilight, but KH2 retconned it so that Light is the Present, leaving the last one a mystery) and also that Nobodies still don't die completely and that something remains.
Of course, Nomura has retconned things before or failed to use the mysteries foreshadowed, but if the fourth realm would happen to be "Time", it would definitely explain why there's a teenage doppleganger of Sora running around despite Sora being already born but not older than six.
I strongly disagree. KH2 already had a huge problem with taking no freedom with the Disney worlds and instead building a ten feet thick wall between them and the main plot/setting.Jamienra said:
Besides, if you do not embrace the fan-service of having random characters from both series interact in anyway, then there's no point in having either FF or Disney in the game.
I do not mind sidestories, but if they in no way at all tie to the main one, it's all pointless padding. It does not help that there's no plot advancement even between most of the Disney worlds, meaning the pacing is way off when you sometimes spend 3-6 hours with the main story barely being mentioned. It gets tiresome.
One word: Time Zombies. Well I suppose that can't actually happen. So uhhh... A more complex combat system? Keyblades having special abilities and attacks such as teleportation? Or perhaps some puzzles at the very least.
No i agree. but Hollow Bastion did invlove the story by using Leon (squall), The King, Ansem and Xehanort. The disney worlds are really pointless to begin with which is annyoing, but when Organisation XII step in they have a little more reason to them. But the Disney worlds definitley need a story other than there own, otherwise i would just watch the film and imagine sora is there ^^Axeli said:
I want the Cloud x Sephiroth plot resolved!
I also want to kick his ass one more time, and make him even harder!
I'd also like something definite to happen between Kairi and Sora rather than the suggestive looks they give each other now and then. An endgame kiss or cuddle would be fine. I want Riku to be in my party, because he kicks royal ass. I'd also like Anti-Form to be an option, that was cool too.
I also want to kick his ass one more time, and make him even harder!
I'd also like something definite to happen between Kairi and Sora rather than the suggestive looks they give each other now and then. An endgame kiss or cuddle would be fine. I want Riku to be in my party, because he kicks royal ass. I'd also like Anti-Form to be an option, that was cool too.