No way they can't do that...Sacman said:It's like Activision is trying to piss everyone off...
Sorry, but when you say that valves games are JUST games, what do you classify the halo series as? Something more than games? At it's most basic you could view Halo, Bioshock, Half-life, Unreal Tournament, Thief, and Starcraft as JUST games.Lyri said:Right.
The thing about Valves titles is, they're just what they are. TF2 IS a multiplayer FPS, one of the finer ones out there but that's all it is.
Half life IS the epic story of Gordon Freeman fighting the Combine. Portal is a sexy, sleek little single player puzzler but again, that's exactly what it is.
In my eyes, Valve makes great games sure but none of them seem to take that step to be that little bit more.
Halo, whilst being mostly famous for it's online play being loaded to the teeth with "wooting dickholes" is a single player game with a decent and expansive story (1-3, reach, missed any? *shrug*).
It's also a really good time on Multiplayer too, hell the fans were playing for a damn long time after they threatened to shut down the Halo 2 servers.
It even went competitive,
Bungie did well for themselves, Reach seems to be quite the swan song for all their hard work and honestly seeing the trailer for forge world.
I came.
I was tempted to shuffle my xbox off just to get it fixed so I could play (Note: I didn't).
It's a lot of ground for one title to cover, Valve has done it all sure but it's done it all through numerous titles.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to down talk Valve at all here. I guess I'm just looking at it differently.
Never! How could you possibly think such a thi- Oh wait...Sacman said:It's like Activision is trying to piss everyone off...
He doesn't think. Period.Hannibal942 said:Let's just hope Kotick wasn't thinking before he spoke...
You missed the point of the post entirely.Firetaffer said:Sorry, but when you say that valves games are JUST games, what do you classify the halo series as? Something more than games? At it's most basic you could view Halo, Bioshock, Half-life, Unreal Tournament, Thief, and Starcraft as JUST games.
Straw man, you are giving examples for Bungie contribution that goes beyond games, but do not take into account what other companies have done that is beyond the games themselves.Lyri said:Traun said:This is not an opinion, this is you not reading comments.Traun said:this is you not reading comments.Traun said:not reading comments.Come again.Lyri said:I won't go into Steam and Unreal Engine because I'd believe Kotic would only be talking about games development, could be wrong though.
I think I am getting where you are getting with it now. Unfortunetly you are still incorect.Lyri said:You missed the point of the post entirely.
Each game valve produced is pretty set in its ways, TF2 is just an online FPS, portal is a single player FPS/puzzler.
Halo is a single player story driven game, co-op based, or mutliplayer title.
Essentially what I was getting at.