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SonicKoala said:
How the hell did they build Rapture, and second, how the hell did nobody notice? Seriously, it's an enormous city under the sea - that would take years to build (and apparently it was built prior to or around the 50s, and therefore building something like that is pretty much impossible) and millions upon millions of dollars. And apparently it's in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean - how would you get the building supplies out there? It doesn't affect Bioshock in anyway, it's just something I've always wondered.
If your gonna ask that, you might as well ask, where the hell plasmids came from, and how are the big daddies alive, are they people? are they robots? i dont know
 

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Final Fantasy VII when Sephiroth is about to PWN Aeris/ Aerith

HOW THE HELL DOES CLOUD NOT WARN HER????
 

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Well, seeing as it is never explained, how the Russians got to America undetected in MW2.
And I will now prepare to be told how by someone hopefully.
The ACS module that you were sent to steal in the first level had a shit load of information on the US satellite defense system. It was copied, so the Russians could disable the defense long enough to slip over the arctic to America.

I think. I am too tired to remember correctly



And that is how babies are made they did that
But that was INFORMATION. I doubt that Russia would've been able to effectively disable (since that being only way to make it through) the system without the Americans noticing. Also, anyone with a pair of eyes and a cell phone (OR LANDLINE) would've ruined their plot when they see a fleet of planes flying over there house.
 

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Psychically controlled super soldier projects in FEAR.
I got a 40+ page book for preordering FEAR 2 that tried to explain that. The FEAR series really doesn't make much sense. All I know is "Kill clone supersoldiers, try not to get killed by freaky little girl"
 

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I think this might have been mentioned on ZP, but how is it that Artemis managed to prepare a full invasion into Washington D.C. without anybody noticing.
 

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Zenn3k said:
Most of the story in MW2 takes the cake for me, but this is the major one from MW2 that annoys me

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How did Price single handily get into a nuclear sub, get the launch codes, get both launch keys, AND turn them both all by himself????????
How did Price target that nuke to blow up in space during this time as well?
Exactly, in addition, how the hell does he know anything about nukes? Last time i checked he was Spec Ops, not a technician.
 

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Super_Nintendo_Chalmers said:
Princess Peach was Baby Bowser's mother? What was up with that?
Nope, Bowser just told him that so he would kidnap her.
So he's running out of reasons to kidnap her, and so he just made on up?
No, he made up a reason to motivate his son to kidnap her.

Which begs the queshtion who is his mother?
 

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SonicKoala said:
Ckeesy said:
SonicKoala said:
How the hell did they build Rapture, and second, how the hell did nobody notice? Seriously, it's an enormous city under the sea - that would take years to build (and apparently it was built prior to or around the 50s, and therefore building something like that is pretty much impossible) and millions upon millions of dollars. And apparently it's in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean - how would you get the building supplies out there? It doesn't affect Bioshock in anyway, it's just something I've always wondered.
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Yes, I get what you're saying, but the whole thing requires a MASSIVE suspension of disbelief - even if they were the smartest people in the world, overcoming the technical nightmare that is building a massive city under tens of thousands of gallons of water (without anybody finding out, mind you) is something that is so far beyond anybody even today. Even if it is POSSIBLE, it would be a fucking nightmare to execute and would take far too long to make it a viable idea. I understand your space station comparison, but we're talking about a freaking CITY here.

Secondly, yes it is a plot hole. It's not an extremely RELEVANT plot hole with regards to the central storyline, but it is part of the overarching storyline, which is the story of this man (Andrew Ryan) who, in his very objectivist manner, went and built this fantastic underwater city where people wouldn't have to face the restraints of everyday society. So how did he build it, eh? See, plot hole.
You guy's can believe that several thousand slaves made the god damn pyramids with that much precision with just levi's and ropes a couple thousand years ago but you cant believe that in the 50's they made a city underwater
 

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thenoblitt said:
SonicKoala said:
How the hell did they build Rapture, and second, how the hell did nobody notice? Seriously, it's an enormous city under the sea - that would take years to build (and apparently it was built prior to or around the 50s, and therefore building something like that is pretty much impossible) and millions upon millions of dollars. And apparently it's in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean - how would you get the building supplies out there? It doesn't affect Bioshock in anyway, it's just something I've always wondered.
If your gonna ask that, you might as well ask, where the hell plasmids came from, and how are the big daddies alive, are they people? are they robots? i dont know
Okay, considering this is like the 2,000th time my original post has been quoted, I'll give and say that I was wrong and it ISN'T a plot hole (at least not in the sense of the central story of Bioshock). Still, the idea of constructing this enormous city underwater is so far-fetched and they never even TRY to explain how they did it, but I suppose that would have ruined the mystery surrounding the place, so I'll let that point be.
 

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thenoblitt said:
SonicKoala said:
Ckeesy said:
SonicKoala said:
How the hell did they build Rapture, and second, how the hell did nobody notice? Seriously, it's an enormous city under the sea - that would take years to build (and apparently it was built prior to or around the 50s, and therefore building something like that is pretty much impossible) and millions upon millions of dollars. And apparently it's in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean - how would you get the building supplies out there? It doesn't affect Bioshock in anyway, it's just something I've always wondered.
-Snip-
Yes, I get what you're saying, but the whole thing requires a MASSIVE suspension of disbelief - even if they were the smartest people in the world, overcoming the technical nightmare that is building a massive city under tens of thousands of gallons of water (without anybody finding out, mind you) is something that is so far beyond anybody even today. Even if it is POSSIBLE, it would be a fucking nightmare to execute and would take far too long to make it a viable idea. I understand your space station comparison, but we're talking about a freaking CITY here.

Secondly, yes it is a plot hole. It's not an extremely RELEVANT plot hole with regards to the central storyline, but it is part of the overarching storyline, which is the story of this man (Andrew Ryan) who, in his very objectivist manner, went and built this fantastic underwater city where people wouldn't have to face the restraints of everyday society. So how did he build it, eh? See, plot hole.
You guy's can believe that several thousand slaves made the god damn pyramids with that much precision with just levi's and ropes a couple thousand years ago but you cant believe that in the 50's they made a city underwater
Who said I believed that slaves constructed the pyramids? Everybody knows the aliens helped them......
 

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thenoblitt said:
You guy's can believe that several thousand slaves made the god damn pyramids with that much precision with just levi's and ropes a couple thousand years ago but you cant believe that in the 50's they made a city underwater
slaves actually didn't build the pyramids, instead of paying taxes Egyptian peasants would work for a period of time for the state. Most slaves in Egypt were house or agricultural slaves.
 

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SonicKoala said:
thenoblitt said:
SonicKoala said:
Ckeesy said:
SonicKoala said:
How the hell did they build Rapture, and second, how the hell did nobody notice? Seriously, it's an enormous city under the sea - that would take years to build (and apparently it was built prior to or around the 50s, and therefore building something like that is pretty much impossible) and millions upon millions of dollars. And apparently it's in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean - how would you get the building supplies out there? It doesn't affect Bioshock in anyway, it's just something I've always wondered.
-Snip-
Yes, I get what you're saying, but the whole thing requires a MASSIVE suspension of disbelief - even if they were the smartest people in the world, overcoming the technical nightmare that is building a massive city under tens of thousands of gallons of water (without anybody finding out, mind you) is something that is so far beyond anybody even today. Even if it is POSSIBLE, it would be a fucking nightmare to execute and would take far too long to make it a viable idea. I understand your space station comparison, but we're talking about a freaking CITY here.

Secondly, yes it is a plot hole. It's not an extremely RELEVANT plot hole with regards to the central storyline, but it is part of the overarching storyline, which is the story of this man (Andrew Ryan) who, in his very objectivist manner, went and built this fantastic underwater city where people wouldn't have to face the restraints of everyday society. So how did he build it, eh? See, plot hole.
You guy's can believe that several thousand slaves made the god damn pyramids with that much precision with just levi's and ropes a couple thousand years ago but you cant believe that in the 50's they made a city underwater
Who said I believed that slaves constructed the pyramids? Everybody knows the aliens helped them......
well maybe the aliens helped andrew ryan build his underwater city as well
 

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Lamppenkeyboard said:
If Cole got his powers from the explosion in Infamous, then how did he have the same powers when he came back in time as Kessler to actually set up the same events which had given him his powers?
i think he always had the power, the explosion just sped up the process of getting them, all the conduits you fight in the game had the potential to get powers, the orb just activated them sooner and larger
 

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thenoblitt said:
well maybe the aliens helped andrew ryan build his underwater city as well
Wonderful, problem solved!

Seriously though, after thinking about it, explaining how Rapture was built would have been unnecessary, and it would have just made for tedious dialogue that was irrelevant to the actual story. The whole notion of Rapture is shrouded in mystery, so I think some things are best left unexplained. So, I guess what I'm saying is... I was totally wrong, and everybody should disregard everything I've said about this supposed "plot hole". Talking about Rapture so much has actually made me want to replay Bioshock, so I guess some good has come of this.
 

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Uber Polarbear said:
eh..... I can't believe nobody has mentioned this yet Left 4 Dead

I know there's not supposed to be a story but I'm just mentioning it
There is a story, and there aren't any plot holes.

Zombie apocalypse, the 4 immune survivors team up. Coincidentally, with completely politically correct characteristics. They try to make their way to an Evac station, they escape or die.

I'd have to say half-life has a pretty large plot hole, specifically the giant crevice between HL1 and HL2. It's still an awesome game nonetheless.
 

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Uber Polarbear said:
eh..... I can't believe nobody has mentioned this yet Left 4 Dead

I know there's not supposed to be a story but I'm just mentioning it
Well, in the opening cinematic of Left 4 Dead, Bill examines one of the dead zombies and then comments how "they're changing", or something like that. The whole story of Left 4 Dead is just kind of implied, just as in the first cinematic it's implied that there was some sort of viral outbreak, which has now "changed". At least, that's what I got out of it.