Me: What do you mean, only I can go in there to put in the code, sacrificing my life? Rad-X?
Game: Nope.
Me: Send in the ghoul who is healed by radiation?
Game: Nope.
Me: Send in the mutant who is immune to radiation?
Game: Nope.
Me: Send in the paladin who has sworn to save lives at any costs?
Game: Yes, but that's evil.
Me: But how did Colonel Autumn survive when I can't?
Game: Shut the fuck up and die!
well I think the game wants you to assume that the Russian terrorist guy is just really smart and like to start wars so he let the American do some killing.
Also if an American started killing a airport full of people in my country without being provoked then I'd be pretty pissed, probably not pissed enough to attack one of the biggest military super powers on earth but still pretty pissed.
I still kind of wonder why Shepherd went on his weird "shoot you then set you on fire" thing though it probably falls under the same reasons that some folks think 911 happend
Imper1um said:
MW2 is one big Plot Hole.
1. How come an ACS Module falls over Russia?
2. How come a Military Defense Satellite has a code to disable all of the Satellites in America?
3. How come none of the movement in Russia was undetected?
4. How come none of the movement in Russia was not sent by phone to Youtube or something, instantly alerting the United States?
5. How does a Nuclear Missile only cause an EMP Shockwave, with no Nuclear Devestation?
6. How does an EMP Shockwave from a Nuclear Missile cover the entire United States?
7. How does a Devestation Wave only travel up from the missile?
8. How do you detonate a Ground-to-ground ICBM Missile in midair?
9. Why does Russia drop people on suburban homes and make it really defended?
10. Why isn't at least half of Russia's infantry decimated by gun carrying US Citizens?
11. Who the hell are you transporting on the one defensive mission in the beginning?
12. Why does Predator missiles in the second mission you have them have a reload time?
13. Why do Nuclear Missiles end the game in your favor online?
14. How does a 150-300lb person carry a 1000lb (considering ammo amount) Turret which auto-tracks with no Run Speed decline?
15. How does slicing a man in the backpack constitute an instant kill?
16. On the Terrorist Mission, if this guy is so bad, why don't we kill the guy while we have guns and we're behind the guy?
17. How can you survive a 150-lb bomb from a Stealth Bomber with a small enclosure, but the wall fails to stop 2 inch bullets?
18. Why the hell are you going from one place to another in the first US Mission?
19. How do pipes suddenly fix themselves after they have been shooting hot burning air?
20. After 30 seconds of leaking Propane, why doesn't a single spark light up everything in a 30ft radius? How about 2 minutes, why isn't everything within 120ft burning to a crisp?
21. How the hell would you invent a Heartbeat Sensor?
22. Why can enemies follow you if they are within 30 ft, behind walls, up stairs, around corners, etc. easily, but cannot follow you if they are outside of 120ft, even if they have been watching you the entire time?
23. How do the Thermal Visions work in the Desert? If it's 98.6 Degrees outside, and the human body is 98.6 Degrees, wouldn't you see nothing?
24. How do you carry dual shotguns with no recoil?
25. How can you carry dual machine guns with no recoil?
26. How can you pump a pump shotgun when both hands are taken?
27.Why the fuck did Roach run with the plan to kill civilians?
28.Why the fuck didn't he just kill Makarov?
29.Why the fuck did Roach kill the civilians?
30.How the fuck did they know he wasn't a Rusky?
it was who's sled and what did that have to do with anything
now I don't want to make anyone mad but, it wasn't Roach who did it, it was the American that you play in the first level.
I think (just speculation) that they wanted you to gain Makarov's trust so you could find out his plans.
As for the Russian thing?
he didn't drink enough Vodka prior to the killing?
What's all this "realism" bashing of MW2? We get it, it's not perfect, (realism wise - do you know a game or even a film that is?) but what are questions about gas leaks doing on a plot hole thread? Are we really that pedantic? I'm not defending MW2 here by the way. I'm not even a big fan. But it's like 40% of the posts in this thread are off topic.
The way the nuke works in multiplayer is not a plot hole!
29.why does Makarov even know about price? (if makarov has no connection to the russian government)
30.why is cpt price bieng defended by the russians in a gigantic fortress with hundreds of commandos despite being the only prisoner?
31.why the hell does general shepherd go to freaking Afghanistan? why is he even hiding? why does he have his own private army? With absolutly no one paying attention to what he does with it?( no really, WHY?)
32.How did a nuclear bomb exploding close enough to destroy ISS (which jsut happened to be over Washington) have an area of effect large enough to cover Washington with EMP?
33.Why did no one fall off those little bird choppers? there was no straps or anything.
34. Why is there a giant army of banditos living in rio de ginero armed with the same 100 year old shotgun?
35.Why was makarov supposedly hiding in a us army dumping ground? what in gods name drove the writers to think it was reasonable for the general to randomly "narrow down" makarovs location to two places? and if shephard had this whole army of people he trusts, why did'nt he send them?
36.The russian invasion seemed kind of retarded. So, what, 40 years of cold war with both sides preparing to nuke the planet to oblivion. when war breaks out, they just dropped in nuch of guys with AK's and wheeled apc's to occupy monuments in washington, and then the Americans nuke themselves... ???????
37. Why does the plot have to BLOW SO MUCH? it would have been so easy to make so many minor changes that a normal person could make sense of it- buut nooo, our cash cow cannot be questioned...
27. I'm quite sure they'll explain that later.
28. Action game logic
29. Easily, he found out
30. You got me there, that is rather weird
31. Because he can?
32. Beautiful scene logic
33. Bird choppers?
34. Because of action game logic.
35. Umm, he did?
36. The americans nuke themselves? Have we been playing the same game?
What's wrong with Russia invading the Usa, I kinda liked it, it was really over the top.
37. Because IT IS YOUR OPINION?
I have no problems with it myself.
Nitpicking much?
A lot of the MW2 plot holes people are moaning about are only because you don't understand the more complicated plot points. If you realy want to understand the story and realise that it mostly makes sense go look at http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Call_of_Duty:_Modern_Warfare_2
It's set in the future, with the political climate in Russia very different to now...with ultranationalists etc. Lots of complaints are easily explained by taking time to atually complete the game, like Shepherd's involvement.
The ACS module that you were sent to steal in the first level had a shit load of information on the US satellite defense system. It was copied, so the Russians could disable the defense long enough to slip over the arctic to America.
Not really. You'd think at least one other country in Europe would notice a bloody invasion force crossing over their territory.
The Russians are clearly coming in from the Atlantic anyway, and just because one ACS module got nicked doesn't mean that the US and every other world power lost all things like radar, or in the case of Non-USA countries, their fucking satellite capabilities.
Plus, this is bloody America people. They don't have one defence system, nor do they tend to keep it going and trust that it still works after it has been captured. The USA would have contingency plans for something like that going missing, and they would have never trusted data that had been captured by a hostile country.
Just accept it as a plot hole. Like how a nuke can cause a shockwave in space, or how a nuke can be launched from a submarine into space, or still work in space.
Or how the hell Price ended up in that Gulag and never took the opportunity to escape before.
I'm pretty sure Price didn't make a move earlier because of all of the guards within the prison that Soap and the TF took down on the way to get Price, it must have taken a lot of patience just for Price to strike at that guard at the right time when you find him
I was wondering yesterday which game I have has had the biggest plot hole, and I realised that it was probably in Super Mario Sunshine.
Princess Peach was Baby Bowser's mother? What was up with that?
So come on people, what do you think was the biggest plot hole you've ever seen in a game?
You know it's revealed at the end of the game that Bowser was lying and that Bowser Jr. knows she's not his mother, right?
Mine: Kingdom Hearts 2. If Xemnas is Xehanort's Nobody and Ansem was Xehanort's Heartless, then shouldn't killing Ansem have given him his heart back, thus rendering the entire motivation of the Organization's leader void and moot?
Metal Gear Solid 4.
Just 'The Patriots' in general they make absolutely no sense and in fact the entire last 45 minutes of MGS4 makes no sense at all. I can't be bothered with spoiler tags but to say the least the game has so many holes that they overlap each other so the actual plot is more like a porous sponge soaked in poor cliches and masturbatory self-referencing.
This. I enjoyed the game, but the story make little sense near the end. I mean...
"zero becames one, one becames zero"??? How did Raiden get electric powers all of a sudden? How is it that Naomi got killed by cancer instantly?
Not to menction the whole "Sunny hacked the system and remove the bad parts, and all is fine again". The "Debrin" name is an anagram for patriots... Or my favorite: "The philosophers were a lie created to justify the actions of the bad guys" (talk about meta-revelation and a cheap way to cut down a plot point, Kojima)
Again, on the same topic, how is it that using surveillance they were able to ascertain that the shell casings for Makarovs weapons came from some guy in Rio, but could not actually tell that it was a Russian terrorist that caused the shooting in a Russian airport?
There was suppose to be a part in the game where you went to an HK production plant. But it was cut due the game being rushed into release. This is also the reason for the other plot holes.
Most of the story in MW2 takes the cake for me, but this is the major one from MW2 that annoys me
Incoming Spoilers:
How did Price single handily get into a nuclear sub, get the launch codes, get both launch keys, AND turn them both all by himself????????
How did Price target that nuke to blow up in space during this time as well?
1.MW2: Why did the Russians attack America. You don't do that for a couple civilians.
2.MW2: What the fuck was Price doing on the Gulag? He could've killed everyone there with his bare hands and then swim through the Atlantic.
Most of the story in MW2 takes the cake for me, but this is the major one from MW2 that annoys me
Incoming Spoilers:
How did Price single handily get into a nuclear sub, get the launch codes, get both launch keys, AND turn them both all by himself????????
How did Price target that nuke to blow up in space during this time as well?
To answer you hidden question, its because they needed him alive, and somthing tells me they knew about hte bleeding effect, so they had to be prepared.
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