Last PC Game worth actually buying?

[Valentine82]

Heh, I didn't actually make that comment Valentine, I don't know how my name got mixed in there. Also I would say after reading the comments, although RTS isn't my cup o' tea, it definitely isn't dying.

Depends on how you define dying. If by dying you mean fewer and fewer RTS games released and a diminished quality between releases, RTS games are dying in many ways. RTS games seem to get increasingly dumbed down and the RTS elements seem to get gutted more and more.

Anyway I'm surprised no one mentioned Mount and Blade with the Prophecy of Pendor mod.

 

[Irridium]

huh, come to think of it I haven't bought a game in a while.
I rented Infamous and I may buy it so yeah...

Oh, now I remember, I just bought American McGee's Alice in Wonderland for like $3 from a garage sale.
Best game I played so far this year.

 

[teisjm]

Demigod

 

[Valentine82]

Considering that DoW2 selled alot I think its still alive.

Sales are great for quick income, but they say nothing of the quality of a game or how many people actually continue to play the game past that initial try out after installation.

As EA has shown us so many times before, no matter how bad a game is if the game has a colorful box and exploits a popular franchise that game can be sold. Dawn of War 2 is dying because more people are quitting the game than are buying it, but it's still selling because it has nice Box Art and a lot of people are fans of Warhammer 40K or are simply fans of Dawn of War 1.

Demigod

You don't seem to have finished that thought...

Demigod is a shallow, dumbed down action game disguised as an RTS. It's little more than a death match party game that could have been released on the Nintendo 64 ten years ago.

Fixed.

 

[electric_warrior]

this may be controversial, but the sims 3 comes out in like 5 days and i consider that worth buying.

 

[Valentine82]

this may be controversial, but the sims 3 comes out in like 5 days and i consider that worth buying.

Let's just say I might try it before I buy it, as is the case with all EA games. Given that EA has an entire building full of PR people who's job it is to promote sales on popular third party websites such as GameFAQs I really don't even trust user written reviews to be anything but paid commercials when it comes to EA.

 

[electric_warrior]

this may be controversial, but the sims 3 comes out in like 5 days and i consider that worth buying.

Let's just say I might try it before I buy it, as is the case with all EA games. Given that EA has an entire building full of PR people who's job it is to promote sales on popular third party websites such as GameFAQs I really don't even trust user written reviews to be anything but paid commercials when it comes to EA.

I think its a pretty safe bet that it'll be good if the reviews are good, i mean both the previous sims have been great. even EA can't make it rubbish, right?

 

[Valentine82]

this may be controversial, but the sims 3 comes out in like 5 days and i consider that worth buying.

Let's just say I might try it before I buy it, as is the case with all EA games. Given that EA has an entire building full of PR people who's job it is to promote sales on popular third party websites such as GameFAQs I really don't even trust user written reviews to be anything but paid commercials when it comes to EA.

I think its a pretty safe bet that it'll be good if the reviews are good, i mean both the previous sims have been great. even EA can't make it rubbish, right?

With EA that's not a safe bet. EA promotes sales in the public sphere, so it's hard to tell just who is writing a review as an actual gamer and who is writing it as a PR person working at EA.

On the other hand, chances are Sims 3 will be enjoyable and playable because the whole point in making a Sims 3 is to sell another twenty expansions for it, be it through DLC or in Boxes. If no one likes The Sims 3, it's a safe bet no one will buy the expansions.

But it's The Sims... you know what you're getting into.

This prediction may turn out to be wildly inaccurate but I think it's safe to say that The Sims 3 will probably be a lot like The Sims 2.

Yeah but let's not forget that The Sims 2 was just a graphical upgrade of The Sims 1 that had a few new extra features and removed all of the expansion content.

I've already heard that Sims in Sims 3 will just pop out babies constantly if you don't controle them, and that they'll leave them in random places like in front of the bathroom (where they oddly block the path to the bathroom). If EA releases Sims 3 in such a state I'll never buy it, unless they fix these issues and I just happen to feel like taking pity on Will Wright...

Poor Will Wright, he finished his version of Spore in 2006 and it was his masterpiece, then EA steps in and says "Who's the target audience? This game is just too complicated for gamers." and proceeds to destroy it right in front of him while he's contractually gagged from publically saying they haven't approved him to say about Spore.

It's kind of like if someone had taken a letter opener and ripped apart Picasso's most prized painting, then drew on it with a crayon and sold it with their signature in bold thick letters above Picasso's tiny signature.

 

[Signa]

Sacred 2 is recent and worth buying if you like RPGs.

Thanks, I did buy it and I like it pretty well. Despite some rather serious flaws I must say that game was worth buying. It's more like a larger scale Diablo 2 clone than an RPG, but I enjoy playing it online with my European friends.

Glad to hear it. From the moment I popped it in, I felt awful about it because I saw so much detail and work put into the game, and I knew it was going to get raped in sales. I try to mention it as much as possible in the hopes that some one will pick it up.

I'm not sure if comparing it to Diablo is a good idea. Some one might pick it up thinking that it might be another Titan's Quest, only to find it's not. I like to compare it to a marriage between Oblivion and Diablo. While it's neither, it borrows strong points from both games.

 

[The Madman]

I'm sorry Valentine82, but it's become painfully obvious you have absolutely not intent on listening to anyone else nor did you ever make this topic with the intent of genuine debate or discussion. Every single game mentioned you've either ignored when you couldn't think of a suitably rude reply, or bashed with a bias. Believe it or not, your opinion does not equal fact and I'd say the vast majority obviously disagree with you or those games would not be selling so well nor getting the often excellent reviews they are.

Plus you seem to think that games have sort of expiry date, as though just because a game was made awhile back it's no longer capable of being fun. Myself? One of the reasons the PC is my favorite gaming platform is the amazingly large library of games at my disposal. For example I mentioned I bought the Freedom Force games for 6$ the other day? got around to playing the first one last night, and it is fun, really fun. That's amazing value.

You also never addressed smaller indie games or independent projects such as Mount & Blade. That's an amazing little game, sure it's not exactly pretty looking, but it's got the best damn melee combat ever implemented into a game and so many mods you can keep playing the game for years and never run out of new things to do. Which brings up another thing; Mods. You complained about Empire:TW's balance, but there are already 'multiple' mods out there that help address those problems.

It seems to me like you're just looking for things to hate about the PC, but WHY is my question? You obviously play PC games. Are you just being inflammatory for fun, or have you come down with a terrible case of cynicism, because if so: Cheer up guy, go read a book, take a break from gaming for awhile.

 

[Valentine82]

Sacred 2 is recent and worth buying if you like RPGs.

Thanks, I did buy it and I like it pretty well. Despite some rather serious flaws I must say that game was worth buying. It's more like a larger scale Diablo 2 clone than an RPG, but I enjoy playing it online with my European friends.

Glad to hear it. From the moment I popped it in, I felt awful about it because I saw so much detail and work put into the game, and I knew it was going to get raped in sales. I try to mention it as much as possible in the hopes that some one will pick it up.

I'm not sure if comparing it to Diablo is a good idea. Some one might pick it up thinking that it might be another Titan's Quest, only to find it's not. I like to compare it to a marriage between Oblivion and Diablo. While it's neither, it borrows strong points from both games.

Well, given that my favorite Power Metal band (Blind Guardian) were in the game I had to play it and give it a chance. I ended up going out and buying it as soon as I got a feel for the mage, which wasn't easy to do mind you because I had to drive all the way to Best Buy to find a copy. You're right it's more like a Isometric Oblivion than Diablo.

 

[Jumplion]

It's not that outrageous, considering what you get. I could give you many charts and graphs, but in all honesty if you compared what you get with the PS3 out of the box to what you would need to buy for the 360 to get that stuff (like buying an adaptor to get online, the LIVE subscription, a larger harddrive, ect...) then they are pretty evenly priced though the 360 is probably more expensive in the long run.

It's still pretty outrageous. We're talking about $400 bucks just to be able to play a game in the first place, then another $60 bucks for game. Look I don't need all that extra crap, I just want to play the damn games. When SEGA is charging me an arm and a leg for this multi-media mega-machine that does nothing my computer can't already do in the first place (aside from play PS3 games) then they're alienating me as a customer. Free online and PS3 games, that's great, how about selling a stripped down model with JUST THAT and not all this extra stuff they're charging us for?

Um, SEGA doesn't make the PS3, Sony does. Yeesh, you are really getting your facts mixed up, 'ain't ya?

Well, without the Blu-ray, you wouldn't be able to play any of the PS3 games in the first place. So there's your reason why you're being charged a little extra for blu-ray. Hey, it's either that or an extra 50 or so bucks for it to come with Backwards Compatibility.

 

[Valentine82]

I'm sorry Valentine82, but it's become painfully obvious you have absolutely not intent on listening to anyone else nor did you ever make this topic with the intent of genuine debate or discussion. Every single game mentioned you've either ignored when you couldn't think of a suitably rude reply, or bashed with a bias.

Untrue. I've actually explained several times that I was hoping for some good under the radar game that I may have missed. I'm sorry but Stalin vs Martians, not what I was hoping for.

Believe it or not, your opinion does not equal fact

Never said it did.

and I'd say the vast majority obviously disagree with you

Depends on what you're saying they disagree with me on. I've responded neutrally to a lot of games mentioned, explaining that I tried them and they weren't my thing for various reasons (Mass Effect for instance). I've also responded positively to a few (most recently Sacred 2).

Most of the games I've responded to with negativity (Most of them being Fallout 3, Demigod, and Dawn of War 2) have generated a massive number of negative reviews and a lot of negative feedback for very good reasons.

or those games would not be selling so well nor getting the often excellent reviews they are.

On reviews, no matter how bad a game is it will get a few good reviews. Even a horrible game in most regards can get a 10 out of 10 from a company PR person (EA, this means you) or a fan boy (shout out to Square Enix), but when most of the reviews land between "It sucks" and "Meh, it's ok", that doesn't say very good things for the industry. A lot of the games I mention land in the "Meh, it's ok" 7 out of 10 or 3 out of 5 category.

On sales, as I've said before, high sales does not equal high quality. Hype, Packaging, Product Placement, and Availability of a game all play a major role in sales, often more of a role than quality.

Plus you seem to think that games have sort of expiry date, as though just because a game was made awhile back it's no longer capable of being fun. Myself? One of the reasons the PC is my favorite gaming platform is the amazingly large library of games at my disposal. For example I mentioned I bought the Freedom Force games for 6$ the other day? got around to playing the first one last night, and it is fun, really fun. That's amazing value.

The older a game is the more likely I am to have already played it through until I can't possibly get anything more out of it. The whole point of asking what the Last game people thought of as worth buying was to discover some more recent game that was worth buying. I'm just sick of all the dumbed down or short and shallow "Play it and shelf it" games that seem to be flooding the industry.

You also never addressed smaller indie games or independent projects such as Mount & Blade. That's an amazing little game, sure it's not exactly pretty looking, but it's got the best damn melee combat ever implemented into a game and so many mods you can keep playing the game for years and never run out of new things to do.

Actually I brought up Mount & Blade and the Prophecy of Pendor mod on my own. Mount & Blade is one of the rare FEW recent titles I considered worth buying.

Which brings up another thing; Mods. You complained about Empire:TW's balance, but there are already 'multiple' mods out there that help address those problems.

Mods are great, I love mods, but at the same time many mods are poorly done and unprofessional at best. In the case of Empire Total War, I was hoping for simple gameplay changes and what I found were mods that were either purely cosmetic, horribly invasive, or poorly done. It seems most mods make the game feel broken by adding nations that don't even have descriptions and occasionally crash the game, or they're just purely cosmetic, or they're just too invasive with the changes they make and they also make the game feel broken because half the changes are poorly implemented.

That all said, Total War Games all go though this cycle, it takes a while for the crap mods to get filtered out. It's rather overwhelming at any stage to find the mods you're looking for due to the sheer volume and disorganization of the whole process, but still it normally gets better as time passes. Maybe a few months from now I'll go back and find an Empire Total War mod that will make my purchase worth while.

It seems to me like you're just looking for things to hate about the PC, but WHY is my question? You obviously play PC games. Are you just being inflammatory for fun, or have you come down with a terrible case of cynicism, because if so: Cheer up guy, go read a book, take a break from gaming for awhile.

Sorry to say but you got several things wrong, not the least of which is calling me a guy

No I'm not looking for things to hate about PC gaming, and I'm not sitting here being inflammatory for fun. When the best suggestion that comes up again and again is Demigod, it really tells me that the industry is in the toilet.

 

[Valentine82]

OOPS, I meant Sony... Sorry I was still thinking about Sonic from another thread.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Hmmm...recently?

Plants versus Zombies, I liked Godfather 2, Dangerous High School Girls in Trouble...

And there's a lot of really neat free games out there as well. City of heroes is a wonderful play.

 

[Deusoma]

The last PC game I played that was awesome was Crysis: Warhead. On the other hand, I have no regrets in buying my new PC, since it means I'll be able to play Starcraft II and Diablo III.

 

[Valentine82]

Hmmm...recently?

Plants versus Zombies, I liked Godfather 2, Dangerous High School Girls in Trouble...

And there's a lot of really neat free games out there as well. City of heroes is a wonderful play.

I'll check out Godfather 2 even though I've heard a lot of bad things about it. I heard a lot of bad things about Godfather and I loved it so who knows?

Plants vs Zombies keeps comming up, at first I thought it was a joke but now I'm going to try it out. Thanks for your response

The last PC game I played that was awesome was Crysis: Warhead. On the other hand, I have no regrets in buying my new PC, since it means I'll be able to play Starcraft II and Diablo III.

Yeah I know the last year or two has been pretty hard on Gamers but good mother Blizzard seems to be coming to the rescue. I'm stoked about Diablo 3 personally, the duel gender classes are a great improvement too I'm glad Blizzard's is finally recognizing the girls of gaming. Maybe the large minority of WoW players who are actually female has something to do with opening Blizzard's eyes.

 

[Boron00]

Plants Vs. Zombies
Fallout 3
Left 4 Dead
TF2
Dawn of War 2 : 40k

All really good games, but I am really waiting for COD: MW2, TF2 : Updates, L4D : Updates, The Sims 3, Prototype, Red Faction, Singularity,and Bioshock 2, are all going to be fun PC games.