Latest Xbox Dashboard Update Makes Pirates Sad

[John Funk]

I'm just saying, mods ban people on here for mentioning that they pirate games.

I though they only ban people that post links to pirated software.

I've seen quite a few people put on posting suspension for just stating that they'll get the pirated version of a game for whatever reason it may be. Always rubbed me the wrong way.

Posting here on our private forums is a privilege, not a right. The Escapist has a very firm anti-piracy stance, and encouraging it even subtly is frowned upon. That is our rule, and if you don't like it then... I'm sorry, it's just how things are.

 

[TomLikesGuitar]

Oh so anyone who has ever pirated is forever a pirate? Well then, most of the people on the internet are pirates I suppose.

Probably

Ever play a SNES game on an emulator, for example?

Yes I have. (Please mods don't ban me.) And yes, this makes me a pirate.

I have been prevented from playing a legit game because of DRM. Fate wouldn't recognize the disc because of Securom. Sure you can eject and retry over and over again until it works but that just wears on your DVD drive and your patience. I can't prove it over the internet though so I guess I am lying, right?

Of course, anecdotal evidence over the internet is equivalent to none at all, but you already knew this.

EULA's don't allow Microsoft to destroy other people's property, which is why I am in this conversation. I don't care if you've modded your XBOX or not, if their update is designed to brick it, I don't think that is legal.

I feel as though I missed something. I thought you were saying that Microsoft should refund you if they ban you from Xbox Live. It is precisely because you accepted the EULA that they are allowed to do this.

 

[La Barata]

Screw Pirates, it makes me sad too. It looks like shit.

Amen to this, it's absolutely hideous. Seriously, I'd never thought I'd see an ugly shade of white, but they managed it.

 

[cobrausn]

EULA's don't allow Microsoft to destroy other people's property, which is why I am in this conversation. I don't care if you've modded your XBOX or not, if their update is designed to brick it, I don't think that is legal.

Doesn't brick it, so far as I can tell. Cuts off the Xbox LIVE service from it.

 

[cobrausn]

With any software you buy, you are actually buying permission to use it. Just that no one complains because what you are given permission for is exactly what you bought it for.

That's probably the only reason they haven't faced a significant legal challenge. You're basically agreeing to 'I won't do anything illegal with this' for the most part, though some like to push the boundaries.

My guess is the first time a EULA tries to do something really crazy the whole concept will find itself in court.

 

[Polaris19]

Good, let them be sad.

Dear Microsoft DRM Division
The majority of the pirates play xbox offline with their copied disks on old or modded firmware. Oh, and of course, it'll probably be cracked within a week. Congratulations on doing abso-fucking-lutely no good at all, probably wasting a crap load of money, and persecuting bystanders and legitimate customers.

Regards
Someone who is VERY GLAD they aren't a M$ customer.

And it being Microsoft has what to do with it? Sony makes the same changes from time to time, as does Nintendo.

Microsoft is taking action, even if pirates waste their lives trying to figure out how to crack it, Microsoft has still provided a deterrent for some pirates who don't want to bother with it. You don't make progress by standing still, and at least they've attempted to do something, rather than sit there, twiddling their thumbs asking "Duh, what should we do about them piraters?".

 

[thublihnk]

I'm just saying, mods ban people on here for mentioning that they pirate games.

I though they only ban people that post links to pirated software.

I've seen quite a few people put on posting suspension for just stating that they'll get the pirated version of a game for whatever reason it may be. Always rubbed me the wrong way.

Posting here on our private forums is a privilege, not a right. The Escapist has a very firm anti-piracy stance, and encouraging it even subtly is frowned upon. That is our rule, and if you don't like it then... I'm sorry, it's just how things are.

I get that, but considering how often piracy gets brought up it'd be nice if being able to discuss it candidly without encouraging illegal acts (and the definition of 'encouraging' needs to be made a little clearer) would be nice, especially when as I said before blatantly encouraging other illegal acts gets a pretty big pass.

 

[LogicNProportion]

This new update gets better and better!

Love the new look, love the new perks, loving the dashboard again.

That last one made my balls hurt.

 

[cobrausn]

I get the impression that sometimes Pirates will say that they got nixed for having a legitimate copy to either fix their problem or spread bad publicity because they hate anti-piracy measures.

Nope, wouldn't happen, people are inherently honest.

DRM is hardly ever a good thing. What slows down pirates, stops honest customers. Cheering on DRM is insane as far as I am concerned.

Wait, you say it is 'hardly ever' good, implying that sometimes there is good (or at least acceptable) DRM, but then lump in cheering for all DRM as 'insane'. Which is it? Isn't acceptable, successful, and unintrusive DRM worth cheering for?

Like, uh, Steam?

 

[cobrausn]

I get that, but considering how often piracy gets brought up it'd be nice if being able to discuss it candidly without encouraging illegal acts (and the definition of 'encouraging' needs to be made a little clearer) would be nice, especially when as I said before blatantly encouraging other illegal acts gets a pretty big pass.

Well, this is a video game and gaming news site. Considering they are probably working very closely with some members of the industry, it seems like letting their forum members 'encourage' or 'enable' piracy could conceivably be... bad.

 

[zxBARRICADExz]

I give them 1 month tops to crack it and everything goes back to normal. Also why would you play online if you had a hacked console?

because having a j-tag'd box is cool to tell people about on live... and because those people that do have one are fuckin cunts.

MS needs to start updating firmware more often to catch these bastards.

 

[thublihnk]

I get that, but considering how often piracy gets brought up it'd be nice if being able to discuss it candidly without encouraging illegal acts (and the definition of 'encouraging' needs to be made a little clearer) would be nice, especially when as I said before blatantly encouraging other illegal acts gets a pretty big pass.

Well, this is a video game and gaming news site. Considering they are probably working very closely with some members of the industry, it seems like letting their forum members 'encourage' or 'enable' piracy could conceivably be... bad.

Yeah, and I wouldn't encourage or enable piracy on the site. I would like to, however, talk about how perhaps bittorrent, or even software piracy could have a net positive effect on the industry without fear of mod wrath.
Also

Good. If only there was a way to make pirates consoles catch fire and lock their room door!

That would be progress.

gets a pass. Setting gamers of any kind on fire is also a bad thing.