Leave me alone PC gamers!

[hazabaza1]

Is PC gaming better?
Yes.
Is it because of graphics? No.
Are you not a true gamer if you don't play on pc? No.
PC is better because you don't have to go out and get a game, you can just buy it off steam.
Speaking of steam, you can get awesome deals on it, like Elder Scrolls 3-5+all dlc for only 50 bucks.

Consoles have downloadable games too and you can just order stuff online. (Not exclusive to consoles but y'know)
Steam is probably quicker, yes, but you can still get games on any platform without leaving the house.

 

[Mycroft Holmes]

That's the worst idea I've ever heard. How the hell am I gonna control it from my bed?

The same way you control a console system?

I don't see how it would matter that much unless your room is huge and you'd need a 50 foot cable to cross it. And if that is the case for some reason, there are wireless controllers.

Are you also implying that I should just tell my friends (Who I know in real life and have done for years) to fuck off and go play PC? No, just no.

Sounds like fun to me. Enemies are so much better than friends.

Console and PC devs tried cross-platform multiplayer but it was no fun for the console players because they got dominated by perfect sensitivity and accurate controls.

I only get a chance to speak to them on xbox due to our conflicting work hours and only see them about once a week.

Still a problem of them choosing a poor gaming system and not a real reason for consoles. If your friends all only played tic-tac-toe, it doesn't make it the greatest game ever. It just means that your friends have bad taste.

Fair point on the internet one yet why does everyone complain about it?

Because the people who complain about it don't even do a modicum of research beyond 'other people said it and it fits into my world view so I'll report it as truth.' Which is generally the logic behind most statements people make.

I don't mind paying extra since I can still afford 40k stuff, tabs, drink on the weekends and food at college. Counting coppers.

wow. great plan. Pay more for less.

 

[VeneratedWulfen93]

That's the worst idea I've ever heard. How the hell am I gonna control it from my bed?

The same way you control a console system?

I don't see how it would matter that much unless your room is huge and you'd need a 50 foot cable to cross it. And if that is the case for some reason, there are wireless controllers.

Are you also implying that I should just tell my friends (Who I know in real life and have done for years) to fuck off and go play PC? No, just no.

Sounds like fun to me. Enemies are so much better than friends.

Console and PC devs tried cross-platform multiplayer but it was no fun for the console players because they got dominated by perfect sensitivity and accurate controls.

I only get a chance to speak to them on xbox due to our conflicting work hours and only see them about once a week.

Still a problem of them choosing a poor gaming system and not a real reason for consoles. If your friends all only played tic-tac-toe, it doesn't make it the greatest game ever. It just means that your friends have bad taste.

Fair point on the internet one yet why does everyone complain about it?

Because the people who complain about it don't even do a modicum of research beyond 'other people said it and it fits into my world view so I'll report it as truth.' Which is generally the logic behind most statements people make.

I don't mind paying extra since I can still afford 40k stuff, tabs, drink on the weekends and food at college. Counting coppers.

wow. great plan. Pay more for less.

No it just means my friends like differant things to you. I'd rather have console gaming friends than PC gamers if all of them are as big a dickhead as you. Frankly I'd gladly get shafted by developers, pay more for games and take all the disadvantages of consoles x10 than associated with anyone with the same sense as you.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

having read through (and responded to) a few posts, I'm going to add my two cents.

the PC gamers we have on here are, for the most part, a bunch of jerks.

The thing is that some people don't have the time and money to sink into a PC, and it isn't just the PC itself but all the other software that comes with it quickly makes teh damn thing very very expensive.

you build your PC for...oh...let's say around 700 dollars. Then add on top the different programs you need to buy to help it run or stay protected: and at least some of them are going to have monthly fee's that go along with it.

Congratulations! You are already 3 times more expensive then my console, and I haven't even bought a game yet.

Then you ahve the problem of people hacking your PC, the various viruses and bugs that come along with it and the general unpleasantness of the PC community.

And the funny thing is about this whole discussion is that half of the PC gamers on here are proving the OP's point: PC Gamers are Elitists.

I do not care how powerful your system is, I do not care how pretty your graphics are, I do not care about your PC exclusives and I do not care about your complaining about the inferior ports.

Someone I care about has offered to buy me a PC for gaming and I have reluctantly agreed, it's simply so we can play Guild Wars II together and that's it really.

But even when I get that, I'm still going to be a console gamer. Because it's fun, because it's simple and because I frankly couldn't care less about PC gaming.

If you're happy up in your ivory tower PC gamers, then fine: I'm happy for you. Stay up there.

What software are you talking about?

You gotta buy windows, but nothing really after that. The anti-virus software that is free does a perfectly good job.

Hacking, bugs and viruses - That's a computer problem, not a gaming problem...and it's not at all likely to be a problem at all so long as you're responsible on the internet. PSN getting hacked was more worrying to me than anything that's happened on a pc.

"Unpleasantness of the community" - Well I guess there's subjectivity at play here. My own personal experience is that I basically make a friend everytime I load up CS:GO, whereas when I played 360 online I got called a "******" alot... Your post makes you sound like you have no experience of gaming on PC's anyway...so you're just guessing, right?

Lastly. Aha ha ha..."ivory tower". Try not to stare at the beauty of the ivory-tower, it might cause you to fall off of your high-horse.

I gotta ask. Are the people who are bothered by this kind of thing as wimpy and moany in their day-to-day lives as they are on the internet? It must be hell going through life with such thin skin.

 

[VeneratedWulfen93]

having read through (and responded to) a few posts, I'm going to add my two cents.

the PC gamers we have on here are, for the most part, a bunch of jerks.

The thing is that some people don't have the time and money to sink into a PC, and it isn't just the PC itself but all the other software that comes with it quickly makes teh damn thing very very expensive.

you build your PC for...oh...let's say around 700 dollars. Then add on top the different programs you need to buy to help it run or stay protected: and at least some of them are going to have monthly fee's that go along with it.

Congratulations! You are already 3 times more expensive then my console, and I haven't even bought a game yet.

Then you ahve the problem of people hacking your PC, the various viruses and bugs that come along with it and the general unpleasantness of the PC community.

And the funny thing is about this whole discussion is that half of the PC gamers on here are proving the OP's point: PC Gamers are Elitists.

I do not care how powerful your system is, I do not care how pretty your graphics are, I do not care about your PC exclusives and I do not care about your complaining about the inferior ports.

Someone I care about has offered to buy me a PC for gaming and I have reluctantly agreed, it's simply so we can play Guild Wars II together and that's it really.

But even when I get that, I'm still going to be a console gamer. Because it's fun, because it's simple and because I frankly couldn't care less about PC gaming.

If you're happy up in your ivory tower PC gamers, then fine: I'm happy for you. Stay up there.

What software are you talking about?

You gotta buy windows, but nothing really after that. The anti-virus software that is free does a perfectly good job.

Hacking, bugs and viruses - That's a computer problem, not a gaming problem...and it's not at all likely to be a problem at all so long as you're responsible on the internet. PSN getting hacked was more worrying to me than anything that's happened on a pc.

"Unpleasantness of the community" - Well I guess there's subjectivity at play here. My own personal experience is that I basically make a friend everytime I load up CS:GO, whereas when I played 360 online I got called a "******" alot... Your post makes you sound like you have no experience of gaming on PC's anyway...so you're just guessing, right?

Lastly. Aha ha ha..."ivory tower". Try not to stare at the beauty of the ivory-tower, it might cause you to fall off of your high-horse.

I gotta ask. Are the people who are bothered by this kind of thing as wimpy and moany in their day-to-day lives as they are on the internet? It must be hell going through life with such thin skin.

For your point on the whole wimpy and moany. Its yes and no. I'm a wimp as expected of a geek and so would rather be a smart ass and get punched in the face than actually fight someone. However I rarely moan about anything. The last 3 things I moaned about extensively were, in order of most recent: This (I kept it bottled up for a long time), The new Necron codex (That shit just ain't funny) and the sawn off in Gears 3 (Worst weapon idea ever). Otherwise it normally takes alot to get under my skin, I was bullied for most of my school life and so just kinda put up with it. Physical abuse and such i can handle, having my passion for games questioned because of my system I guess I can't.

 

[VeneratedWulfen93]

The new Necron codex (That shit just ain't funny)

Matt fucking Ward man....

If he touches my Tau Codex...I shall be enraged

I can sum up the bullshit with three things.

Warscythe

Mindshackle scarabs

Complete butchering of the lore

I hope Matt Ward is dead by the time the new Eldar codex and even the Tau one. I can see it now. Assualt 15 Markerlights, Pulse Rifles would be AP 4, Fire Warriors BS 4!. That and he'd probably replace the Caste system with a fuedal japanese one or something.

I mean come on. Necrons= TOMB KINGS IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE now.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

having read through (and responded to) a few posts, I'm going to add my two cents.

the PC gamers we have on here are, for the most part, a bunch of jerks.

The thing is that some people don't have the time and money to sink into a PC, and it isn't just the PC itself but all the other software that comes with it quickly makes teh damn thing very very expensive.

you build your PC for...oh...let's say around 700 dollars. Then add on top the different programs you need to buy to help it run or stay protected: and at least some of them are going to have monthly fee's that go along with it.

Congratulations! You are already 3 times more expensive then my console, and I haven't even bought a game yet.

Then you ahve the problem of people hacking your PC, the various viruses and bugs that come along with it and the general unpleasantness of the PC community.

And the funny thing is about this whole discussion is that half of the PC gamers on here are proving the OP's point: PC Gamers are Elitists.

I do not care how powerful your system is, I do not care how pretty your graphics are, I do not care about your PC exclusives and I do not care about your complaining about the inferior ports.

Someone I care about has offered to buy me a PC for gaming and I have reluctantly agreed, it's simply so we can play Guild Wars II together and that's it really.

But even when I get that, I'm still going to be a console gamer. Because it's fun, because it's simple and because I frankly couldn't care less about PC gaming.

If you're happy up in your ivory tower PC gamers, then fine: I'm happy for you. Stay up there.

What software are you talking about?

You gotta buy windows, but nothing really after that. The anti-virus software that is free does a perfectly good job.

Hacking, bugs and viruses - That's a computer problem, not a gaming problem...and it's not at all likely to be a problem at all so long as you're responsible on the internet. PSN getting hacked was more worrying to me than anything that's happened on a pc.

"Unpleasantness of the community" - Well I guess there's subjectivity at play here. My own personal experience is that I basically make a friend everytime I load up CS:GO, whereas when I played 360 online I got called a "******" alot... Your post makes you sound like you have no experience of gaming on PC's anyway...so you're just guessing, right?

Lastly. Aha ha ha..."ivory tower". Try not to stare at the beauty of the ivory-tower, it might cause you to fall off of your high-horse.

I gotta ask. Are the people who are bothered by this kind of thing as wimpy and moany in their day-to-day lives as they are on the internet? It must be hell going through life with such thin skin.

For your point on the whole wimpy and moany. Its yes and no. I'm a wimp as expected of a geek and so would rather be a smart ass and get punched in the face than actually fight someone. However I rarely moan about anything. The last 3 things I moaned about extensively were, in order of most recent: This (I kept it bottled up for a long time), The new Necron codex (That shit just ain't funny) and the sawn off in Gears 3 (Worst weapon idea ever). Otherwise it normally takes alot to get under my skin, I was bullied for most of my school life and so just kinda put up with it. Physical abuse and such i can handle, having my passion for games questioned because of my system I guess I can't.

That's fucked up, mate. I hope you don't see "tough-guy" and "wise-ass" as being the only options...neither is all that likable.

Also, I looked at your profile... Happy birthday!

 

[repeating integers]

The new Necron codex (That shit just ain't funny)

Matt fucking Ward man....

If he touches my Tau Codex...I shall be enraged

I can sum up the bullshit with three things.

Warscythe

Mindshackle scarabs

Complete butchering of the lore

I hope Matt Ward is dead by the time the new Eldar codex and even the Tau one. I can see it now. Assualt 15 Markerlights, Pulse Rifles would be AP 4, Fire Warriors BS 4!. That and he'd probably replace the Caste system with a fuedal japanese one or something.

I mean come on. Necrons= TOMB KINGS IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE now.

On the other hand, now they actually have personality. I liked the old fluff, but the new fluff is probably cooler IMO (if a bit unsubtle).

Also, I've beaten them plenty of times with my Tau/BAs alliance, and just pure BAs before then in 5th ed. It's not that hard, you just kill the fuckers until they get the message.

And Ward isn't meant to be touching the new Tau codex.

 

[VeneratedWulfen93]

The new Necron codex (That shit just ain't funny)

Matt fucking Ward man....

If he touches my Tau Codex...I shall be enraged

I can sum up the bullshit with three things.

Warscythe

Mindshackle scarabs

Complete butchering of the lore

I hope Matt Ward is dead by the time the new Eldar codex and even the Tau one. I can see it now. Assualt 15 Markerlights, Pulse Rifles would be AP 4, Fire Warriors BS 4!. That and he'd probably replace the Caste system with a fuedal japanese one or something.

I mean come on. Necrons= TOMB KINGS IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE now.

On the other hand, now they actually have personality. I liked the old fluff, but the new fluff is probably cooler IMO (if a bit unsubtle).

Also, I've beaten them plenty of times with my Tau/BAs alliance, and just pure BAs before then in 5th ed. It's not that hard, you just kill the fuckers until they get the message.

And Ward isn't meant to be touching the new Tau codex.

Necrons were meant to be silent robots who were a husk of life, berift of personality. I prefered them when all they did was harvest. If they made it a little better than just copy and paste a fantasy book then I wouldn't mind.

Also I played them once and won. My Dark Reaper Exarch flattened around 8 warriors a turn.

 

[Erana]

I have more fun with the Console experience. I have given PC plenty of tries, and use it on occasion, but its just generally not as fun to me.

And while I hate "/thread"-ing, if someone's seriously going to tell me that a platform that isn't as enjoyable to me is somehow better, when we're almost exclusively talking about video games as a source of entertainment and escapism, its pretty safe to say that you're missing the point.

 

[frizzlebyte]

Get ready, because after the Eurogamer KSI banning "controversy", I'm about to get all rant-y up in here.

/tiradeincoming

You know what? I'm tired of gaming's immature, insecure nitwit idiots who sit and whine about how much better their system is compared to everyone else's, or how much better one shooter is to another. The immaturity that is displayed in much of the technology/gaming fandom is just mind-blowing to me. Having a PC is better than having a console, or vice versa? Really?

Prove it.

No, seriously. Prove it. Prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that your PS3 is better than my Xbox or my PC. Or, try to prove that your PC is better than my PS3 and Wii. Do it. I'd love to see the strained, anal-retentive arguments that'd spume forth from your hole if you tried.

And don't give me that crap about how you don't HAVE to prove it, because it's established fact. No, it isn't. Get up and defend your opinions like an adult.

/bigrantover

I say whatever system you use, game on, brother. Don't let any of these losers rag on your choice of gaming device. It's about damn time the games industry grew into its big-boy pants.

 

[blackrave]

I haven't touched console in 12 years
Because I think that by buying consoles you're becoming ***** for Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo
(who exactly owns a console?)
Still there were some good things consoles did
1.Improved software- because resources was needed to make games bigger and prettier, developers struggled to find the ways to make games consuming less hardware (since hardware stayed the same)
2.Increased gaming community- because of plug'n'play philosophy consoles have, it is easier for less techno-savvy people to get into gaming (even if it attracts these retards)

And while consoles did also a lots of bad things, I think these two good things have same weight as the evil deeds.

P.S. Crap, I just remembered that I pulled out my Sega Genesis year ago to play Dune2 and Comix Zone. Dammit, a decade long console-free reputation ruined by nostalgia trip
P.P.S. The guilt and shame is overwhelming. Ladies and gentlemen it was nice to know you. Now I'm going to go and commit suicide by watching Transformers trilogy non-stop.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Get ready, because after the Eurogamer KSI banning "controversy", I'm about to get all rant-y up in here.

/tiradeincoming

You know what? I'm tired of gaming's immature, insecure nitwit idiots who sit and whine about how much better their system is compared to everyone else's, or how much better one shooter is to another. The immaturity that is displayed in much of the technology/gaming fandom is just mind-blowing to me. Having a PC is better than having a console, or vice versa? Really?

Prove it.

No, seriously. Prove it. Prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that your PS3 is better than my Xbox or my PC. Or, try to prove that your PC is better than my PS3 and Wii. Do it. I'd love to see the strained, anal-retentive arguments that'd spume forth from your hole if you tried.

And don't give me that crap about how you don't HAVE to prove it, because it's established fact. No, it isn't. Get up and defend your opinions like an adult.

/bigrantover

I say whatever system you use, game on, brother. Don't let any of these losers rag on your choice of gaming device. It's about damn time the games industry grew into its big-boy pants.

Let's debate on the internet!... About unimportant things!! Like adults!!!...

I'm amused.

Thick skin, everybody...look into it. There's nothing of value you here, if you can't handle your platform being criticised...the problem is you. Whilst it might be a little silly to be putting "PC/PS3/360 is da best!" out there at every given oppurtunity, it's sillier to let it get to you. That's not adult...

 

[TheIronRuler]

Jeez, I wonder WHY they bash you so very hard about having a seriously inferior, overpriced, inconvenient, technologically obsolete and locked down system.

And just so that you're aware, if you're not already:
Consoles are the cause for all the bad things in the industry. Not for the industry mind you, but in the industry. What we game-playing folk want.

TL;DR: Fuck consoles.

Gotta love it when someone comes along and proves the OP's point.


It's so very delicious.

OT: As with every following, there are extremists, so to say. Just ignore them.

.
But I love my PC! I used to own a PS2 but I gave up on life consoles after GoW3 came out for PS3 and the price of the console would mean I had to live off beans and sleep in a cartboard box for the next four months to even out my check-balance. I will never forgive, never forget! I will only use a PC from there on, to infinity and beyond!

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Jeez, I wonder WHY they bash you so very hard about having a seriously inferior, overpriced, inconvenient, technologically obsolete and locked down system.

And just so that you're aware, if you're not already:
Consoles are the cause for all the bad things in the industry. Not for the industry mind you, but in the industry. What we game-playing folk want.

TL;DR: Fuck consoles.

Gotta love it when someone comes along and proves the OP's point.


It's so very delicious.

OT: As with every following, there are extremists, so to say. Just ignore them.

.
But I love my PC! I used to own a PS2 but I gave up on life consoles after GoW3 came out for PS3 and the price of the console would mean I had to live off beans and sleep in a cartboard box for the next four months to even out my check-balance. I will never forgive, never forget! I will only use a PC from there on, to infinity and beyond!

A real gamer would have lived in squalor and destitution.

You disgust me.

 

[Vigormortis]

No, I literally cannot play my games if I can't connect to the Steam/internet. Kinda like in my Mass Effect 2 I discovered when I'm not connected to XBL I can't play a save that had the Normandy Crash Site or Zaeed in it, but can at least still play the game. My offline mode, I swear to God, it switches back on at its own whimsy. But then Steam has never seemed to like me, so big surprise.

If you would like, I can help you to get the Offline Mode working more consistently.

I know it can be a tad finicky, but once you understand exactly how it works, you'll know what to do to get it to work every time.

[sub]And no, I don't mean "just log online to go offline"[/sub]

Just PM me and I'll do what I can.

It is pretty troubling sometimes, when you look at the comments of some news, which just mentions pc's, and there they are.
"Damn Pc gamers, always complaining about console gamers."
"Oh, i can't wait until the pc gaming master race comes and tells me how stupid i am for liking consoles."
"Seriously, fuck pc gaming!"

And that's before even one tiny pc gamer leaves a comment.

That happens a lot around here.

News item shows up that makes the tiniest of mentions of an "unpopular" popular game title, service, developer, etc, and the comments section becomes flooded with hateful comments towards that thing and it's subsequent fan base.

I.E. News item mentions Halo. Following comments are comprised primarily of "Halo players are the worst kind of people. Bungie fans are idiots. Halo sucks."

It's even worse when entire threads are devoted to this sort of thing. On any given day, if you glance around the forum topics, you'll find at least a few "hate" threads. Threads titled something like, "Why do people like Game-X" or "Game-Y. I don't get it." or "This game sucks and you're wrong for liking it." (and at least one of those threads will be about Half-Life, Valve, EA, Call of Duty, Halo, or the like)

What's more, you also get a plethora of threads wherein the OP, and many other commentors, complain about people always talking about one game or another. The irony being, the only ones still bringing up the topic are those complaining.

Gaming has always been full of angry, childish pricks who love to belittle others, complain about any damn thing, and generally act foolish. However, as gaming becomes more popular and more "accepted" by the general public, the "haters" become more numerous and more vitriolic.

At least, that's how it seems to me. :/

 

[AnotherAvatar]

:words:

As someone else mentioned you can use any game controller you want on a PC. You can also plug your PC into the TV if that's the reason why your 'neck is hurting.' Unless your TV is like a CRT from the 90s there should be a connector for the monitor so that you can switch the input. And if it is a really old TV you can probably buy an adapter for like a buck fifty at most.

That's the setup that I have and it's really nice for watching streaming netflix and other videos.

That's the worst idea I've ever heard. How the hell am I gonna control it from my bed?

... They make these things now, they're pretty sweet, they call them wireless keyboards/mice...

See also: Keyboard lap tray.

So much for not having to buy many accessories.

Funny thing about that is I can find all of this for less than the price of a 360 controller... Hmmmmmm

Try to remember your aim is to convert console players to PC gamers, not non-gamers to PC gamers. I already HAVE everything I need to play enjoyable games. You're gonna need some serious persuasion.

And all I have for that is that I can play my games in more ways, with better graphics, and cheaper, and not to mention the potential library, as PC's library makes any other system's laughable, more so when you take into account Emulation.

 

[Lyri]

This is just something I've been getting alot of for about a year now.

I never noticed PC gaming was at this level until a year or so ago. I new it was there but I thought consoles was where it was at because I only used my PC for RTS games. However the gap between consoles and PC gets bigger as time goes on and more people switch to PC gaming. Damn right shame too, means no-one will buy the next gen of consoles.

Anyway the point is I feel like I've got this army of PC gamers bashing my xbox now. Everywhere I look PC gamers always seem to do their gosh damn hardest to make people realise what a 'poor' gaming choice consoles are. I'm constantly reminded about my horrible system, over-priced games, dated tech and such. Sorry but I don't have the time to join the superior beings that are PC gamers. My home PC is downstairs and I'd have to build one myself...which isn't gonna happen because I play 40k and that is ridiculously expensive.

Yes I know the PC is the better platform, I have for years, I don't need to be reminded by stupid comments on youtube videos that say "I can't take Roosterteeth seriously when they play on console" and such. Every forum, site and such I visit advocates PC gaming and makes it seem like consoles are the reason for everything bad in the industry.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I feel the gaming community is against me, that somehow me owning a console makes me a stupid or bad person who isn't a gamer and I should be constantly reminded of my systems failures. Is that the plan? Beat down console gamers until they can't take it and buy PC?

Does anyone feel the same? (likely its a majority of PC gamers on this site)
Does anyone completely and utterly disagree with me?
This isn't an angry rant just an observation that ticks me off a little.

Not to be a douchebag but it isn't really our problem that our choice doesn't have limitations to the extent the console does.

I was browsing the Skyrim Subreddit and every screenshot thread has posts from console players moaning about how much better we have it and how they wish they could do it too.
Yet, when PC gamers bring up points like "Oh we can mod X into our game just because" it isn't us bragging as such it is just something we can do.
It's pretty hard to have a conversation about a game you really like with someone and not touch on the finer points as to why you enjoy it.
As a PC (pfft) gamer my laptop just about runs games I want to play, I'm by no means apart of the top echelon of players who mod out their PC to be cooled by their fridge but I still have those options available to me.

PC gaming isn't as inaccessible as people believe it is to be, you should really look into it if you are that sick of it.
There is nothing stopping you from having a pc that is just as "crappy specced" as an xbox and playing all the lovely games you would have done but with mods and stuff.

*shrug*

 

[Mycroft Holmes]

I'd rather have console gaming friends than PC gamers if all of them are as big a dickhead as you.

You should make another passive aggressive thread about it.

Frankly I'd gladly get shafted by developers, pay more for games and take all the disadvantages of consoles x10 than associated with anyone with the same sense as you.

Spite is for children, have fun with that. I'm sure it will take you far in life.