@Random Sup guy. This isn't like me I know but i'd had enough with the accusing finger looming over me.
Unfortunately I don't have the space in my room for another console or any friends who play anything but xbox. There are quite a few people who would disagree with you on the quality however. How apparently Dragon Age, The Witcher and Metro 2033 are so far superior on PCs that its a sin to play it on anything else.GSP66 said:All right I'm going to try to keep the over-generalized idealistic platitudes to a minimum in this quasi-intelectual diatribe on the absolute lunacy of this god-forsaken situation.
Let me be as unambiguos as humanely possible: IT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHAT GOD DAMN PLATFORM YOU GAME ON.
The quality of the game comes from the content and mechanics of the freaking game. What platform it is on means NOTHING. Sure some of the quality will be lost in translation if the console/PC port is bad BUT that is the fault of the developer for being lazy and not a problem with the game or the platform itself.
In other words Consoles or Computer are innoculous
For me, I game on the PS3, XBOX 360, and PC. Guess how much it affected the gaming experience from console to console. No seriously I'll wait... If you guessed somewhere between bugger and all CONGRADULATIONS you just won a cookie. The only console can really go after is the Wii as it is poorly designed as the motion controls are unresponsive, unimmersive (*insert any Yahtzee rant on the Wii here). And even that console has some really solid games on it, Silent Hill Shattered Memories and Super Mario Galaxy to be exact IMO.
To sum up this psuedo-rant hopefully without sounding redundant no one should care if someone DARES to play on a different platform than you. And if you do please go jump off the nearest cliff because you are officially pathetic.
Probably because are there are a lot of them, with a lot of different opinions.Bhaalspawn said:Why are PC gamers so fucking inconsistent...
That sums it up well.VeneratedWulfen93 said:People like Sanat can simply shut the fuck up, they don't know anything about me. It is wrong to think all PC gamers elitist (I never even mentioned the word in my post I believe) but it's just as bad to think a console gamer is a poor, idiot who can't build a PC or doesn't have passion for gaming.
This - a comment can only have power over you if you let it. And on the internet, there's a lot of people looking for that power.Ciartan said:For fucks sake people, when are you going to learn that theres assholes everywhere?
Stop beeing a whiny little pussy.
My wrist hurts if I play PC too long. Also my neck hurts. And the keyboard is really frickin loud. Also I hate PC shooters. I also can't drive with a keyboard. World of Warplanes would be more fun with a controller. PC servers confuse my poor, linguistic-oriented brain. I don't have to share my Xbox. Either of them. Also FIFA is weirdly fun and it'd be strange to expect all my friends to suddenly upgrade their PCs too. Oh and my Xbox never RROD'd on me. And all the accessories came with it.AnotherAvatar said:Sounds to me like you're just making yourself feel their comments all the more because you're aware you should just get a better PC.
Quick fact: Every year new gear comes out, making last years gear much cheaper.
I just looked up the graphics card I have in my PC, last a little over a year ago I bought it for around $700, now it's down to $350, and this card has run EVERY game I've thrown at it at full settings, and that includes Crysis, mind you my unnecessarily large ram adds to this, but that wasn't a bad price a year ago and I bet it's dirt cheap now. The tech is getting so strong now that I don't think you should try and box yourself in to the "I can't afford it" mindset, sure, if you are looking at this years absurd cards, but I'm here to tell you that it's not that expensive to build a quality gaming PC using last years parts, and it can easily be strong enough to last you for a while as well.
I feel like a lot of console gamers just buy into the "I can't afford a PC", while spending probably easily enough to build a new PC on accessories and much more expensive games for their console.
When I say things like this, I'm not trying to rub it in console gamers faces, I'm trying to wake them up and help them realize they're being swindled, especially if they own a 360 (from the RRoD, to the absurd price of accessories, to paying for online play, that system is a money sink, long run you would likely save money on a PC compared to this).
I don't want the unwashed console masses to stay ignorant, I want to bathe them in the light of knowledge so they come out as the PC gaming masters they have always been inside.
1) You are so lucky on the RROD, I both had two systems that did it to me, and worked at a GameStop for a minute where I was CONSTANTLY seeing them coming in.Thyunda said:My wrist hurts if I play PC too long. Also my neck hurts. And the keyboard is really frickin loud. Also I hate PC shooters. I also can't drive with a keyboard. World of Warplanes would be more fun with a controller. PC servers confuse my poor, linguistic-oriented brain. I don't have to share my Xbox. Either of them. Also FIFA is weirdly fun and it'd be strange to expect all my friends to suddenly upgrade their PCs too. Oh and my Xbox never RROD'd on me. And all the accessories came with it.AnotherAvatar said:Sounds to me like you're just making yourself feel their comments all the more because you're aware you should just get a better PC.
Quick fact: Every year new gear comes out, making last years gear much cheaper.
I just looked up the graphics card I have in my PC, last a little over a year ago I bought it for around $700, now it's down to $350, and this card has run EVERY game I've thrown at it at full settings, and that includes Crysis, mind you my unnecessarily large ram adds to this, but that wasn't a bad price a year ago and I bet it's dirt cheap now. The tech is getting so strong now that I don't think you should try and box yourself in to the "I can't afford it" mindset, sure, if you are looking at this years absurd cards, but I'm here to tell you that it's not that expensive to build a quality gaming PC using last years parts, and it can easily be strong enough to last you for a while as well.
I feel like a lot of console gamers just buy into the "I can't afford a PC", while spending probably easily enough to build a new PC on accessories and much more expensive games for their console.
When I say things like this, I'm not trying to rub it in console gamers faces, I'm trying to wake them up and help them realize they're being swindled, especially if they own a 360 (from the RRoD, to the absurd price of accessories, to paying for online play, that system is a money sink, long run you would likely save money on a PC compared to this).
I don't want the unwashed console masses to stay ignorant, I want to bathe them in the light of knowledge so they come out as the PC gaming masters they have always been inside.
And I hate using a mouse. Did I mention that already?
1) But then you'd ONLY have heard of the ones that were problematic, 'cause nobody would bring in a healthy one. But yeah I DID have one Xbox RRoD, but it got fixed pretty promptly.AnotherAvatar said:1) You are so lucky on the RROD, I both had two systems that did it to me, and worked at a GameStop for a minute where I was CONSTANTLY seeing them coming in.Thyunda said:My wrist hurts if I play PC too long. Also my neck hurts. And the keyboard is really frickin loud. Also I hate PC shooters. I also can't drive with a keyboard. World of Warplanes would be more fun with a controller. PC servers confuse my poor, linguistic-oriented brain. I don't have to share my Xbox. Either of them. Also FIFA is weirdly fun and it'd be strange to expect all my friends to suddenly upgrade their PCs too. Oh and my Xbox never RROD'd on me. And all the accessories came with it.AnotherAvatar said:Sounds to me like you're just making yourself feel their comments all the more because you're aware you should just get a better PC.
Quick fact: Every year new gear comes out, making last years gear much cheaper.
I just looked up the graphics card I have in my PC, last a little over a year ago I bought it for around $700, now it's down to $350, and this card has run EVERY game I've thrown at it at full settings, and that includes Crysis, mind you my unnecessarily large ram adds to this, but that wasn't a bad price a year ago and I bet it's dirt cheap now. The tech is getting so strong now that I don't think you should try and box yourself in to the "I can't afford it" mindset, sure, if you are looking at this years absurd cards, but I'm here to tell you that it's not that expensive to build a quality gaming PC using last years parts, and it can easily be strong enough to last you for a while as well.
I feel like a lot of console gamers just buy into the "I can't afford a PC", while spending probably easily enough to build a new PC on accessories and much more expensive games for their console.
When I say things like this, I'm not trying to rub it in console gamers faces, I'm trying to wake them up and help them realize they're being swindled, especially if they own a 360 (from the RRoD, to the absurd price of accessories, to paying for online play, that system is a money sink, long run you would likely save money on a PC compared to this).
I don't want the unwashed console masses to stay ignorant, I want to bathe them in the light of knowledge so they come out as the PC gaming masters they have always been inside.
And I hate using a mouse. Did I mention that already?
2) Not all keyboards are loud, and I find during gaming I'm not moving my hands as much as when I type, so it doesn't really get loud at all even on my standard keyboard... I mean it's not like you're typing a paragraph, you're hitting wasd. space is likely the only loudness, and it's not larger a bother than the vibration of rumble.
3) You likely only hate PC shooters because you get wrecked in them. No offense, not saying you're a bad player, it's just anyone who doesn't/can't use a mouse always does, because it's WAY easier to point and click someone in the face than work an imaginary cursor with two sticks into someone's face. And for some games, like RTS or Adventure, controllers just feel weird. That said, I use my DualShock3's wirelessly with my PC using Bluetooth whenever I want to play a console game (Arkham City is a great example as of late, as that on a keyboard would likely not be fun). That's what's so sweet about PC, you can have your cake and eat it too.
4) All the accessories except rechargeable batteries, a cable to charge them, a mic, other controller for when friends come over, headsets for them if you want to game online, oh and let's not forget your subscription to Xbox Live.
5) The only argument I can totally understand in this post is convincing everyone to switch over, as I have a copy of Borderlands and Dead Island that I just won't play because none of my friends have a PC/have a PC Copy of them. So that does suck, but I sort of blame the publishers and console companies on that one, as cross platform play should be a standard, but the industry won't admit that as that would be just one less barrier to catch money in.
P.S. They make mousepads with wrist cushions, they are amazing for stiff wrists, really though you shouldn't be suffering unless you game for an over-extended period of time, which isn't healthy on console either, just feels more comfortable because you're on a couch (which I shouldn't say, as I have my PC set up in my living room).
P.P.S. All of that said: to each their own. I can only show you the path to Valhalla, only you can walk it.
As I mentioned before, A PC is cheaper in almost every circumstance unless you're silly and buy from Apple with their 600% markup. It's essentially awash for purchasing both systems if you own a single console. If you own multiple consoles the averages point to the PC being less expensive. Especially if you consider that games can be gotten much cheaper on a console.chinangel said:fair enough...what if after your bills, your payments to the government and whatnot...you dont' have enough money to buy a pc?
Thus is my problem, and the main reason I dislike PC's and PC elitists. Simply put I do not have the money nor the patience to get a PC. The games I want are on the xbox, and quite frankly: I do not care which one is more powerful. What I care about is if I am having fun.
You don't like the idea of a more powerful system becoming far cheaper than the alternatives? I really can't argue against that because you're basically using the same argument the Amish make.VeneratedWulfen93 said:Pretty much another idea I don't like.
I'm arguing with them because I find it cathartic and fun. People never listen to logic when presented in an argumentative format. My pointing out how much better PCs are will more likely drive the people I'm arguing with away from PCs. Which isn't a universal truth, but is true for most people. They view it as an attack on their person and their egos activate must win mode and they use all their intellectual capacity coming up with damage control ideas rather than looking at the facts and trying to make an argument based on them.(which isn't to say that the person I was trying to 'convince' did that, s/he actually seemed to try to be using well reasoned arguments.VeneratedWulfen93 said:Further down you are arguing with someone to actually make them consider buying a PC when they play console.
I listed how it's economically better. I didn't even touch on the actual features.VeneratedWulfen93 said:You list how the PC is better in everyway as usual and act as if owning a console is illogical or stupid.
you are last sentance.VeneratedWulfen93 said:Also you're last sentance actually disgusts me.
Why yes I am, let my divinity be your apotheosis.VeneratedWulfen93 said:Are you some kind of gaming messiah that must spread his teachings to the unwashed masses?
Firstly, you're acting like I'm breaking down your door and demanding that you throw away all your consoles. You made this thread about this subject not me. And ignoring other people is super easy considering this is all happening on the internet and you can literally just leave any thread about it. If that's not a skill you have, then life is going to be really difficult.VeneratedWulfen93 said:Let people play what they want instead of trying to convert them.
If you read my post you would know I have a descent PC with an £80 graphics card. Seriously leave me to my shit system and stop being a damn priest. The only games I prefer on PC are RTS. Seriously do you guys every stop trying to make everyone a PC gamer? I havn't had RRoD since the jasper chip and people like you really get on my nerves. The smart alick 'There is no logical reason to play console' bastard that thinks all the problems of the industry will go away if people play PC.AnotherAvatar said:Sounds to me like you're just making yourself feel their comments all the more because you're aware you should just get a better PC.
And if that's the case, then do it already man!
Quick fact: Every year new gear comes out, making last years gear much cheaper.
I just looked up the graphics card I have in my PC, a little over a year ago I bought it for around $700, now it's down to $350, and this card has run EVERY game I've thrown at it at full settings, and that includes Crysis, mind you my unnecessarily large ram adds to this, but that wasn't a bad price a year ago and I bet it's dirt cheap now. The tech is getting so strong now that I don't think you should try and box yourself in to the "I can't afford it" mindset, sure, if you are looking at this years absurd cards, but I'm here to tell you that it's not that expensive to build a quality gaming PC using last years parts, and it can easily be strong enough to last you for a while as well (plus, if there is a some huge leap in graphics made you can SLI in another card of your card the next year when it's even cheaper).
I feel like a lot of console gamers just buy into the "I can't afford a PC" mindset, while spending probably easily enough to build a new PC on accessories, the much more expensive games, or even having to pay to play online.
When I say things like this, I'm not trying to rub it in console gamers faces, I'm trying to wake them up and help them realize they're being swindled, especially if they own a 360 (from the mind-blowing-ly still an issue RRoD, to the absurd price of accessories, to paying for online play, that system is a money sink, long run you would likely save money on a PC compared to this).
I don't want the unwashed console masses to stay ignorant, I want to bathe them in the light of knowledge so they come out as the PC gaming masters they have always been inside.
Just letting you know that the majority of your problems listed in your post can be solved simply by plugging your xbox 360 controller into your pc. I do it from time to time and most modern PC games have key mappings for controllers already built in so you dont have to waste hours mapping the keys to your controller.Thyunda said:My wrist hurts if I play PC too long. Also my neck hurts. And the keyboard is really frickin loud. Also I hate PC shooters. I also can't drive with a keyboard. World of Warplanes would be more fun with a controller. PC servers confuse my poor, linguistic-oriented brain. I don't have to share my Xbox. Either of them. Also FIFA is weirdly fun and it'd be strange to expect all my friends to suddenly upgrade their PCs too. Oh and my Xbox never RROD'd on me. And all the accessories came with it.AnotherAvatar said:Sounds to me like you're just making yourself feel their comments all the more because you're aware you should just get a better PC.
Quick fact: Every year new gear comes out, making last years gear much cheaper.
I just looked up the graphics card I have in my PC, last a little over a year ago I bought it for around $700, now it's down to $350, and this card has run EVERY game I've thrown at it at full settings, and that includes Crysis, mind you my unnecessarily large ram adds to this, but that wasn't a bad price a year ago and I bet it's dirt cheap now. The tech is getting so strong now that I don't think you should try and box yourself in to the "I can't afford it" mindset, sure, if you are looking at this years absurd cards, but I'm here to tell you that it's not that expensive to build a quality gaming PC using last years parts, and it can easily be strong enough to last you for a while as well.
I feel like a lot of console gamers just buy into the "I can't afford a PC", while spending probably easily enough to build a new PC on accessories and much more expensive games for their console.
When I say things like this, I'm not trying to rub it in console gamers faces, I'm trying to wake them up and help them realize they're being swindled, especially if they own a 360 (from the RRoD, to the absurd price of accessories, to paying for online play, that system is a money sink, long run you would likely save money on a PC compared to this).
I don't want the unwashed console masses to stay ignorant, I want to bathe them in the light of knowledge so they come out as the PC gaming masters they have always been inside.
And I hate using a mouse. Did I mention that already?