Leave me alone PC gamers!

[Waaghpowa]

fact that almost every 6 months you have to update your system to play the newer games

If you honestly believe that, you must be completely ignorant. Upgrades are only necessary every couple of years if you want peak performance, but even that's pushing it. Current generation hardware can go well over 4-5 years, or longer, without needing to change anything.

Let's not forget that you still own a PC which on it's own has more versatility than modern consoles.

 

[blackrave]

Because consoles are slavery

You sir, haven't a goddamned clue about slavery and what's involved in it if you liken it to anything involving something as trivial as video games.

Of course I don't. Do you?

What if I say that slavery is freedom?
You will again start judging who knows and who doesn't about this?

fact that almost every 6 months you have to update your system to play the newer games

If you honestly believe that, you must be completely ignorant. Upgrades are only necessary every couple of years if you want peak performance, but even that's pushing it. Current generation hardware can go well over 4-5 years, or longer, without needing to change anything.

Let's not forget that you still own a PC which on it's own has more versatility than modern consoles.

Thanks for reminding me this good side of consoles
(they are slowing down the need of PC upgrades)

 

[Waaghpowa]

Show me ONE post from a console zealot where they compared PC gaming to a metaphor for everything wrong in the world.

Show me just one, and I'll leave Escapist for good and never darken yours, nor anyone else's doorstep here ever again.

I'd show you the post where a console gamer compares elitists to Hitlers extermination of the Jews, but that thread seems to be lost in time.

This will have to suffice. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.268021-Anyone-else-sort-of-sick-of-it-PC-and-Consoles-Topic?page=3 Second post on that page, the one that got a warning.

He made a Hitler not liking Jews comparison.

 

[Sandjube]

I just want to point out how proud I am of my good friend Sanat and how he has been referenced about 100 times in this thread. Good job man!

...also, pretty much everything he said was true. He could have padded it and worded it nicer, but why bother.

 

[blackrave]

Of course I don't. Do you?

Yes. Yes I do.

You will again start judging who knows and who doesn't about this?

That all depends who decides to start throwing certain words around...

I'm really sorry to hear it.
I previously only once met victim of sex slavery.
Some things she said was overwhelming (thinking about them still causes rage in me, mixed with shame)
I'm glad that you at least trying to fix your life (if it's even possible)

P.S. In my defense- I meant it at level of economical slavery (you owe someone money, but can't return it so you become his slave for a time). It is one of forms that originated slavery and I consider it the most acceptable form of slavery (since you become slave through your actions, not because you were born, tricked or overpowered).
P.P.S. Still I don't expect one who suffered from it, to understand my (rather cynical) point of view.

 

[chinangel]

-snip-

great for you? Again, I do not care how more 'economic' it is, I'm still sinking money I do not have into a machine for the sole purpose of gaming, when I already have a gaming console. Why should I play a port when the original is on the system I already own?

My Daddy wants to buy me a gaming laptop so we can play GW II together, and if so then fine, I'll play it with him, but that's the only reason I'd get a gaming laptop/computer: to play with my friends.

I do not care about specs, I care about if I'm having fun -_-

 

[Syntax Error]

Oh god... I really hate Jims show sometimes. The sheeple are coming out everytime he says something and repeat it like it is universal truth. It happened to me because I see "whining" from gamers as the lowest form to state criticism and that this kind of behaviour should be ignored by the industry. Listening to the most vocal minority is just BS. But everytime I wrote that someone came out with a link to the Jimquisition episode as if it was universal truth and every other stance is wrong. *sigh*

Haven't you seen the early videos? Accusations of trying too hard to be Yahtzee or trying to usurp Extra Credits from people who have no idea who he actually was. Fact is, that man had been presenting arguments like a boss even before Jimquisition (as a show here in The Escapist) was an idea. Look for his older articles in Destructoid and see what I mean.

As for the topic at hand...

So many games to play (on my PC), books to read, models to build and money to make... I have no time to care. I suggest you do the same.

 

[Calibanbutcher]

What a delightful read. It is always so nice to see, that something as arbitrary as one's choice of system can lead to so much hate in the world.

Because obviously YOU (everyone arguing) made the only correct choice and everyone else is simply a stupid boo-boo-head in need of someone to set him straight, which can only be achieved by violent yelling, insults and Godwin's Law. There is no other way. They need to be taught that

They need to be taught that they are NOT enjoying their system of choice.

They need to be taught that only one system reigns surpreme.

They need to be taught a very painful lesson.

They need to be taught by fire.

 

[repeating integers]

The new Necron codex (That shit just ain't funny)

Matt fucking Ward man....

If he touches my Tau Codex...I shall be enraged

I can sum up the bullshit with three things.

Warscythe

Mindshackle scarabs

Complete butchering of the lore

I hope Matt Ward is dead by the time the new Eldar codex and even the Tau one. I can see it now. Assualt 15 Markerlights, Pulse Rifles would be AP 4, Fire Warriors BS 4!. That and he'd probably replace the Caste system with a fuedal japanese one or something.

I mean come on. Necrons= TOMB KINGS IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE now.

On the other hand, now they actually have personality. I liked the old fluff, but the new fluff is probably cooler IMO (if a bit unsubtle).

Also, I've beaten them plenty of times with my Tau/BAs alliance, and just pure BAs before then in 5th ed. It's not that hard, you just kill the fuckers until they get the message.

And Ward isn't meant to be touching the new Tau codex.

Necrons were meant to be silent robots who were a husk of life, berift of personality. I prefered them when all they did was harvest. If they made it a little better than just copy and paste a fantasy book then I wouldn't mind.

Also I played them once and won. My Dark Reaper Exarch flattened around 8 warriors a turn.

"Silent robots who were a husk of life, bereft of personality" was cool for a while, but it also made them kinda bland - after all, we already had a horde of personality-less omnicidal evil things (the Nids, whose current codex is incidentally tragically underpowered). Now the Necrons are at least a tad more unique within the 40k universe - not quite so much like an army of Terminator-expies.

Can't wait for the new Tau codex, though. I hope they give Crisis suits more anti-MEQ weapons than just plasma rifles - after all, they have a ridiculous amount of awesome anti-horde weapons but only really one way to counter Marines.

 

[NotALiberal]

The weirdest thing that they say, from my point of view, is the overpriced games part. I understand that PC gaming has its advantages, but from a financial standpoint (speaking as a married father of two with a very low gaming budget), it seems like PC gaming is actually MORE expensive, due to the fact that almost every 6 months you have to update your system to play the newer games, and I can play a PS3 for years, or the WiiU (again, family man, we have a Wii for the kids to play, and thus already have four controllers for the next system to save me that $200+, lol) and still have games that they make for the console for years and years.

What? That's rubbish. You should only be having to upgrade every 3-4 years MAX (you could easily run most games nowadays with a 4 year old system that was mid-range at the time of purchase) with these overly long console cycles.

Let me break it down for you.. many people NEED computers, whether it be for work, emails, internet usage etc. Now, add $300-400 to that cost, and you can get your self a decent mid-range PC that will last you for quite a while, and you can do a helluva lot more than play games on it.

Or you can pay $300 for an archaic, underspecced, closed source system, which you aren't allowed to modify, and if you want to get the full experience (seeing as most systems don't have anywhere near enough exclusives on their own to justify them as your sole gaming machine), you have to buy 3 consoles, each at $200-300, and with $60 games at launch.. unless you buy them secondhand in which case you can't play online, or some other bullshit like that.

I'm a PC only gamer, and mostly because I can't afford spending $300+ dollars on ancient hardware solely dedicated to playing videogames, to play games at 720p with shitty textures, with many games dumbed down to accommodate the fact that your average controller only has 11 buttons.

 

[The Lugz]

consoles are pc's, they're drm locked laptops and always have been

they control what you do, how you do it and when you get games to manipulate you into forking out as much cash as possible bit by bit
they're the digital equivalent of a loan shark

and the ironic thing is, console gamers think they're getting the good end of the price and 'fun' deal
sounds like brainwashing to me.

so, is that to say that fun is directly proportional to the equipment that you play a game on?
hell no. i enjoyed the crap out of my game-boy and that thing was bought second hand from a pawn shop.
so does that mean it's the best option to play a game on?
definitely not.

but it was fun!! ?? .. :S
fun is the point of gaming
except when it isn't

in conclusion:
do what makes you happy and don't worry about what's 'best' it will only lead to misery.