Meh. I play consoles because that's what I grew up on. First thing I owned was a Sega Master System.
And I still use my laptop for Broken Sword.
'Nuff said.
And I still use my laptop for Broken Sword.
'Nuff said.
Leave me alone PC gamers!
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Oh for the love of MOSES! This topic has been discussed and debated in more threads then gangnam style has views on youtube.
I'll stick with my previous replies to such threads: Stop putting gamers into categories of consoles and PC-gamers, and stop working on the assumption that because you meet arseholes on both sides that either sides are all twats.
Sure, the PC may have advantages but so does the console. They both have different strong-sides and trying to sit oneself firmly in one camp and argue against the other is just stupid. People enjoy different things. People should just deal with it.
And no, I dont think there is some sort of plot against you by PC-gamers, and if you honestly think that the "gaming community" is against you for just using a console, you're paying WAY too much attention to the occassional douchebag.
I'll stick with my previous replies to such threads: Stop putting gamers into categories of consoles and PC-gamers, and stop working on the assumption that because you meet arseholes on both sides that either sides are all twats.
Sure, the PC may have advantages but so does the console. They both have different strong-sides and trying to sit oneself firmly in one camp and argue against the other is just stupid. People enjoy different things. People should just deal with it.
And no, I dont think there is some sort of plot against you by PC-gamers, and if you honestly think that the "gaming community" is against you for just using a console, you're paying WAY too much attention to the occassional douchebag.
I sincerely hope you are trolling, this is what gets people to call people who play on consoles idiots. Most games don't have the capability on the console to produce anything more than 720p hd due to the hardware. Turning down your graphics also does not turn down the pixelation unless you specifically reduce screen resolution in the game options menu, rather than turning down particle effects, AA, post processing etc, or the HZ that your monitor runs in. Also TVs are different and inferior (for games) to computer monitors in terms of latency (which is a HUGE deal in multiplayer games) and the amount of resolution you can get at max for one of them today (apposed to over 2000 by 1600 in Computer Monitor world) However computer monitors because of latency and quality to show text are more expensive and smaller (size).Spade Lead said:
Exactly the same. I grew up on consoles, the first one being the Master system. I also use a pc for age of empires, as well as point and click games.Caffeine_Bombed said:
Funny you say that because I stopped playing 40k to build my current machine, well, that and the (what fourth?)Marine codex.VeneratedWulfen93 said:
Anyway
OT: I recently stopped using my playstation, not because it's a bad machine, or because the players are stupid....well the last one is debatable, any COD games have their share of stupid.
I just find it easier to use my pc, I can download all of my games, which is nice because biking six miles to gamestop is on my weekly to do list.
Now, on the subject of these people that believe they're the 'PC gaming master race' they're idiots, thinking they're better than someone because they like something else, right guys.
I like mountain dew, therefore I'm better than all of you non mountain dew drinkers.
That may be true, but if that's how you feel, then don't get a console. Some people just want to play games and that's it. I just don't get why others get so wrapped up telling them they made the "wrong" choice.blackrave said:MysticToast said:I think you don't understand argument hereAylaine said:I can't be too sure why. From what I observed, some people are so into their preferences that they will use them as a weapon. Again I don't see the point. I'm of the mindset that you can be proud of your preferences within a varied medium, such as gaming, without conflict or disdain for the other aspects of that medium.
Do you feel similar?
On the software level you are right, games are games, and we all are playing games not MS Excel spreadsheets.
It is the hardware level where things get messy (at least for me, maybe I am minority amongst PC gamers)
Because consoles are slavery
While slavers have done few magnificent things (Pyramids, Coliseum, etc.), I don't like slavery.
Similarly with consoles- few good things, have plenty of bad counterparts.
Want to modify your console? You aren't allowed, because you only borrowed it from MS/Sony/Nintendo.
Gamers are divided enough as it is already, we don't need to keep adding fuel to that fire.
If you bought a PC for 520$, 2 years ago and it can't run Crysis or skyrim, it's because the PC was terrible and a bad deal. Before I upgraded a few months ago, I was using a 300 dollar crappy toshiba laptop from 2007 which was only average at the time, and it ran crysis fine. As it grew older it had problems with overheating all the time, but specs wise it was still more powerful than a console.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Well I'm alittle late to the game and i refuse to read 11 pages just to see if someones posted this so:
It wasn't as big a deal way back when PCs and consoles were different things. There were console games and there were PC games and it was fine, you played what suited your taste. However now the consoles are nothing but underpowered PCs with a ridiculous amount of restrictions on how you can use them. So theres really no point in playing consoles unless theres a franchise you really like and its exclusive.... of course my PCs better than any console so I guess you could run the disc on a emulator?
To be honest I have never ever seen PC gamers insulting console gamers except when a console gamer raises the flame flag by saying their console is the best thing ever and nothing can beat it, which is like
It wasn't as big a deal way back when PCs and consoles were different things. There were console games and there were PC games and it was fine, you played what suited your taste. However now the consoles are nothing but underpowered PCs with a ridiculous amount of restrictions on how you can use them. So theres really no point in playing consoles unless theres a franchise you really like and its exclusive.... of course my PCs better than any console so I guess you could run the disc on a emulator?
To be honest I have never ever seen PC gamers insulting console gamers except when a console gamer raises the flame flag by saying their console is the best thing ever and nothing can beat it, which is like
Every PC i have owned lags/crashes when i try to play a game on a decent graphical setting, so i just gave up. I have never had a problem with my 360, no game lags, i don't have to keep upgrading it and every game i put in a game it works right off the bat without having to install it first.
I don't care if your PC can play Skyrim on it's highest graphical setting and i don't care if it runs better, we are all playing the same game it's just yours is more shiny. Now, that's not say Consoles are perfect, hell no, no system is, i just prefer console. (namely the 360 because the controller fits my hand perfectly)
If anyone says there is no problem with the PC, or the 360 is perfect in every single way, then that person is stupid. Every system has its pro's and con's, don't forget that
Now that that is out of the way, Halo Reach is calling me.
I don't care if your PC can play Skyrim on it's highest graphical setting and i don't care if it runs better, we are all playing the same game it's just yours is more shiny. Now, that's not say Consoles are perfect, hell no, no system is, i just prefer console. (namely the 360 because the controller fits my hand perfectly)
If anyone says there is no problem with the PC, or the 360 is perfect in every single way, then that person is stupid. Every system has its pro's and con's, don't forget that
Now that that is out of the way, Halo Reach is calling me.
I do. Like I said in a previous post, gamers are divided enough already.Aylaine said:I can't be too sure why. From what I observed, some people are so into their preferences that they will use them as a weapon. Again I don't see the point. I'm of the mindset that you can be proud of your preferences within a varied medium, such as gaming, without conflict or disdain for the other aspects of that medium.MysticToast said:
Do you feel similar?
The main argument for consoles over pcs is simple. If i buy an Xbox 360 game and place it in my Xbox 360 it will work. If I buy a PC game and put it in my mid range laptop it will not work on anything but low settings. The barrier to entry for PC gaming is that much higher. It's all very well talking about how it allows you to mod the game and make it better, but only a small percentage of people actually know how to do that. I'm reasonably tech savvy, certainly I'm the one in my house people come to when technology breaks, and I wouldn't have the foggiest how to do it.
Suggesting I should spend more money on a PC, where software conflicts etc could render any given game unplayable whilst having to wrestle with ridiculous services such as Steam to play (it only works when your internet is on, great if you live in a magical land where internet always works but I live in the UK) to access benefits such as a mouse and keyboard (which apart from rts games I've never enjoyed using more than a controller DESIGNED for gaming) or modding seems odd to me. Also I see virtually every week an article about hwo PC gamers get considerably worse versions of console games, or no ports at all and yet somehow they're better off?
Maybe this is all because I dislike Minecraft...
That said my Xbox has many annoying flaws. But the workable software library trumps all for me
Suggesting I should spend more money on a PC, where software conflicts etc could render any given game unplayable whilst having to wrestle with ridiculous services such as Steam to play (it only works when your internet is on, great if you live in a magical land where internet always works but I live in the UK
) to access benefits such as a mouse and keyboard (which apart from rts games I've never enjoyed using more than a controller DESIGNED for gaming) or modding seems odd to me. Also I see virtually every week an article about hwo PC gamers get considerably worse versions of console games, or no ports at all and yet somehow they're better off?Maybe this is all because I dislike Minecraft...
That said my Xbox has many annoying flaws. But the workable software library trumps all for me
-The gap gets periodically reset when a new generation of consoles comes out. Though that didn't work out too well for the highest powered consoles of the past 2 generations (PS3/Xbox[not360])VeneratedWulfen93 said:
-As you and your friends age, the convenience factor of a PC/Laptop over consoles grows. Hence the natural shift. Though perhaps not the biggest consumers of the console demographic, the youngsters are the ones who get the most use out of them.
-In an ideal world the PC would be the best platform. However with the increased tech knowledge to keep one running from game to game, it is far more often less than ideal.
That's such a flawed comparison! If you buy "a console game", and try to place it in your "console", it won't work. Yes, if you buy a game for the system with the right alphanumeric designation, it will work, but the overwhelming majority of Earth's population wouldn't know that either.BenTheWolf said:
Yes, it's a barrier, but not being willing to step through it says more about you, than about the offering's quality.
Even if obtaining a gamer PC would be so complicated that only a few hundred people would be willing to do it, us not being able to follow them wouldn't be an argument for how that makes cosoles better. Just because the rules of chess are more complicated and harder to learn than the rules of tag, that doesn't make tag a superior game.
1. No, Steam is not always-online-DRM.BenTheWolf said:having to wrestle with ridiculous services such as Steam to play (it only works when your internet is on, great if you live in a magical land where internet always works but I live in the UK
2. Most games have official releseas outside of Steam.
3. The rest have unofficial cracked versions outside of Steam
Controllers aren't "designed for gaming". They are designed for directly controlling a humanoid or small vehicle character with the joystick around in a space, and attacking enemies.BenTheWolf said:
For any genre demanding something else than that, such as most standard RTSes, Turn-based startegies, life simulators, old-school RPGs, sim/tycoon games, point-and-click adventures, roguelikes, MMORPGs, space simulators, MMO space simulator Tycoon RPGs, or submarine simulators.
stop buying alienwares thenGunsmithKitten said:
lawl $200 2 years ago fail ofc it wont then if its $200 now then it will stupidest thing ive heard, and psn got hacked like twice? nuff said. my laptop is 2 years old $300 now ish and can run all of them fine and runs crysis 1 n 2 on full (anti aliasing cripples most hardware anyway n isnt good on consoles so is irrelevant)NameIsRobertPaulson said: