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Mycroft Holmes

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chinangel said:
Eh...i let myself get into an argument with a troll. Fair enough, my bad. Enjoy your day ^^
Being a dick isn't the same as trolling. Come back when you have some arguments that you've put actual thought into to support your position.

Also you quoted me first so when you say "I let myself get into an argument with" you really mean "I started an argument with."
 

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As someone else mentioned you can use any game controller you want on a PC. You can also plug your PC into the TV if that's the reason why your 'neck is hurting.' Unless your TV is like a CRT from the 90s there should be a connector for the monitor so that you can switch the input. And if it is a really old TV you can probably buy an adapter for like a buck fifty at most.

That's the setup that I have and it's really nice for watching streaming netflix and other videos.
That's the worst idea I've ever heard. How the hell am I gonna control it from my bed?
... They make these things now, they're pretty sweet, they call them wireless keyboards/mice...

See also: Keyboard lap tray.
So much for not having to buy many accessories.

Funny thing about that is I can find all of this for less than the price of a 360 controller... Hmmmmmm
Try to remember your aim is to convert console players to PC gamers, not non-gamers to PC gamers. I already HAVE everything I need to play enjoyable games. You're gonna need some serious persuasion.
And all I have for that is that I can play my games in more ways, with better graphics, and cheaper, and not to mention the potential library, as PC's library makes any other system's laughable, more so when you take into account Emulation.
And the amount of friends I can have in the room at the time makes your system laughable. Boom. Social life'd.
 

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Thyunda said:
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As someone else mentioned you can use any game controller you want on a PC. You can also plug your PC into the TV if that's the reason why your 'neck is hurting.' Unless your TV is like a CRT from the 90s there should be a connector for the monitor so that you can switch the input. And if it is a really old TV you can probably buy an adapter for like a buck fifty at most.

That's the setup that I have and it's really nice for watching streaming netflix and other videos.
That's the worst idea I've ever heard. How the hell am I gonna control it from my bed?
... They make these things now, they're pretty sweet, they call them wireless keyboards/mice...

See also: Keyboard lap tray.
So much for not having to buy many accessories.

Funny thing about that is I can find all of this for less than the price of a 360 controller... Hmmmmmm
Try to remember your aim is to convert console players to PC gamers, not non-gamers to PC gamers. I already HAVE everything I need to play enjoyable games. You're gonna need some serious persuasion.
And all I have for that is that I can play my games in more ways, with better graphics, and cheaper, and not to mention the potential library, as PC's library makes any other system's laughable, more so when you take into account Emulation.
And the amount of friends I can have in the room at the time makes your system laughable. Boom. Social life'd.
I will often use my two fightpads to gather a room full of my friends to throw down on my PC at every fighting game ever made thanks to wonderful arcade emulation.

I JUST said in that last post that I can play my games in more ways: that means I can do it with as many controllers as I want. Seriously, if I wanted to and a game supported it I could easily have 40 controllers all going at once, with 40 people attached to them...

Also, if your social life consists of multiplayer gaming... fuck man... I'm a musician and a writer, I have better things to do with people than play games, not that I don't do that as well (fighting games were really the first games I got into simply because they had such a fun social aspect in the arcade days), just that it's probably the last thing I consider when it comes to the system on which I game as I'll usually only game when I've had enough being surrounded by people.

"Boom. Social life'd" See also: Derp.
 

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This probably has been said already but I got lost in the bickering at some point.

While I hate both of these terms and I find the only people they apply to are ignorant twats with nothing better to do than troll.

But what the hell is the difference between a console "fanboy" and a pc "elitest"?

I find it confusing. Is it because consoles are outdated so being elitest is somehow worse than being a fanboy?

Even to this day I still find people that still think the cell processor is the most powerful cpu ever made. (how is this not elitest?)

It got to the point I cant even have a sensible conversation with a lot of console games, because as soon as I mention the advantages of playing on a pc I get put down and called an "elitest" like it makes the truth somehow less valid.


TL/DR

Both sets of gamers are as bad as each other!
 

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Actually, if you really had read through most of the posts, you'd have noticed that a vast majority of the self-proclaimed PC gamers on here have been the most well-mannered and open of the posters.

In fact, most of the confrontational posts, like the one quoted from you, have been from the console players. Kind of telling about this whole discussion. (though, sad to say, there have been one or two rather obnoxious PC commentors)

I have to ask: Do you not see the issue of lambasting PC gamers for be "prejudiced" towards consoles and console gamers, simply on principle, when you yourself are "prejudiced" towards PCs and PC gamers for the very same reason? How does that not make you just as guilty as the "PC elitists" you revile so much?

You can make all the claims you want about PC gamers being "mean" to you for your choice of gaming platform, but don't expect any sympathies when you do the same to them.

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On a side note, however, I have to add a few things.

Firstly, you can build a decent PC today for between $300 and $400 that is vastly more powerful and vastly more capable than any of the current-gen consoles. So your "$700" is quite an exaggeration.

Secondly, I'm not sure what kind of computers your familiar with, but I don't need dozens of different programs to "help it run". All I need is an operating system and a few drivers, same as a console requires. Likewise, any superfluous programs I might use (not require) don't require monthly fees. The only case I can think of a software package, used for gaming, requiring a monthly fee is, ironically, Xbox Live.

Now, no one will argue that buying a PC is, initially, a little more expensive than buying a console. However, over the course of owning either system, you will end up saving a hell of a lot more money with a PC than you ever will with a console.

The increased costs of games, services, peripherals, etc you find on consoles add up quite quickly. Given both the lower costs of ownership and increased number of services available on PC, PCs end up being cheaper for gaming than consoles.

As for being "hacked" or acquiring viruses, well...that's on the user. If you practice safe internet surfing then you'll be fine.

Your comment on the "general unpleasantness of the PC community" is not only an inflammatory generalization, it's just rude. There's no call for that. Not if we all want a have a conversation and not an argument.

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All that said, I don't care what platform someone games on. What ever platform suits your needs or proves to be more fun should be the one you use. Regardless of it's "pros" and "cons".

You prefer one of the consoles? Great! Good for you. It's no skin off my bones. Hell, if it's an Xbox360 or a Wii perhaps we can play something together. God knows I wouldn't mind an excuse to start using my Xbox again.

Still, though you seem dead-fast in your hatred of PC gaming, I wouldn't mind introducing you to the wonders held within. There are a lot of great games to be enjoyed on the PC.

If you ever change your mind, I know of a few really great TF2 servers. ;)

Mycroft Holmes said:
Being a dick isn't the same as trolling.
Perhaps, but that's still no excuse to act that way. Especially if we, the PC gamers, are going to rid ourselves of the "elitist" image.

Come on man. We can do better!
 

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Jeez, I wonder WHY they bash you so very hard about having a seriously inferior, overpriced, inconvenient, technologically obsolete and locked down system.

And just so that you're aware, if you're not already:
Consoles are the cause for all the bad things in the industry. Not for the industry mind you, but in the industry. What we game-playing folk want.

TL;DR: Fuck consoles.
Says the guy who has linked his Xbox live account...
 

Korihor

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I decided to get on the pc bandwagon for the same reason you do not buy the cheapest printer money can buy.
Sure that cheap printer may do everything a more expensive can do but it can not match photo quality and it uses a lot more ink.
The ink your printer wasted costed you way more money than having a decent printer.
It is the same with consoles.
Consoles do not have as good as graphics as the pc does and when you add up all those games that you either payed full price or a very high price compared to steam.
A physical game disc is almost always going to cost more than a digital copy.
This is true for both the consumer and the manufacturer.
Console games never go on sale for bargain prices.
Consoles are fighting a losing war.
It used to be that only consoles let you lay down on the couch with your controller and your giant hd tv.
Now I can do the exact same thing with the pc.
The only war I see consoles winning so far are for additional hardware like kinect and the wii u second playable touchscreen.
But eventually the pc will catch up to this.
The only other war the pc has to win is piracy, but this is something many consoles have battled too.
The console has allowed the industry to get away with a lot of bad things.
But if you love your console there is nothing to be ashamed of.
 

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I have a 360, a PS3, a Wii by proxy (it's technically my boyfriend's) and a PC (and a number of older consoles in the attic/at the back of cupboards) so the console versus PC argument confuses me.

There are games I enjoy that I can't get on a console (World of Warcraft), games I enjoy but are simply better on the PC (anything heavily moddable, The Sims series for instance), and games that I prefer to play on a console (any of the Lego games or fighters). True, I could set up a controller on my PC for the latter, but I know the console I've bought them for can run them, whilst my PC might struggle a little.

When everything I want to play is available on the same machine, I'll buy that and be done with all of this extra technology. Until then, I will continue to get really pissed off at my PS3 because it is a dust freaking magnet. Seriously, I have to dust that thing twice a day.
 

I am Harbinger

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I only skimmed the first page of this thread, and I already have the "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" feeling.
 

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PC gamer here, I'll argue against anyone who tries to say outright stupid things like "PCs cost 200x more then consoles" or "Consoles have more games and better hardware then PCs" but I'm not dumb enough to attack anyone over what they play games on. At the end of the day, if you want to sit on a couch with a controller or a stylus instead of on a chair with a keyboard, who am I to judge?

That said I still hold the position that the PS3 and 360 are useless to me, since they're just trying to be PCs with bad OSes. Ninendo actually went ahead and tried to give you a reason to buy it's consoles and I have to applaud them for that, I do indeed have a Wii and a DS (And by damn I love my DS, hundreds of epic exclusives) I also have a PS3 that I never really touch because anything I want on PS3 I can normally get better on the PC...

Yes sometimes Consoles fuck things up for PC releases, but that's life, PC screws things over for consoles too occasionally.

CrunkParty said:
Wow. What could you guys possibly be talking about for 13 pages?
If only there was some way for you to find out... it would be really great if forums let you read what people said wouldn't it?
To save you the trouble though, it's mostly just people arguing the same tired arguments repeatedly :/
 

5ilver

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I wouldn't worry about it. Consoles are on their deathbed anyway. Not that they were alive to begin with...
 

enriquetnt

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This is a dead end thread, simply because BOTH ARGUMENTS ARE EQUALLY VALID AND RIGHT stop fighting, consoles are cheaper initially, bar none (unless you can build a 199 PC that can run a game in the league of UNCHARTED 3 AND play Blurays, this is a FACT)

PCs are far more flexible, have cheaper software, but are more prone to initial problems, THIS IS A FACT if you played SKYRIM, or RAGE, (and a heck ton of other games, especially new ones) when they first came out you know it so dont deny it.

so lets leverage consoles PROS: cheap hardware, ease of use, better confort, far better for local multiplayer (you know the one where you play whit your actual friends in the SAME room), lots of exclusive games (you know you want to play mario galaxy, uncharted, gears of war, and a loooong etc of great console only games), you have access to your ENTIRE game collection at the swap of a disc, even if you have hundreds of games.

CONS: hardware gets old quick so graphics tend to get "dated" (in the case of the wii the word would be "horrendous"), if they broke you have to replace the entire thing, hell expensive peripherals, hell expensive software (and the greedy bastards at Microsoft charge you for online mp), also backwards compatibility is severely limited, (or expensive because they want to sell you AGAIN the games you already bought years ago for other platforms)

Lets See PC PROS, higher flexibility do what you want the way you want, far, FAR, FAAAAAR better graphics if you have the right setup, universal compatibility whit all games from all times, cheaper software, cheaper peripherals, capacity to upgrade for better performance, if somethings breaks is cheaper to repair (unless is the GPU)

and the CONS: higher entry price point (DONT argue you know the GPU alone in the pc sittin besides you costs the same if not more than any console, and you change it EVERY TWO YEARS), you can get in a lot of trouble to run certain games, sucks at local multiplayer (and dont tell me LAN because lugging around my 20 pounds 1000 dollars desktop is not my idea of fun), you have to install games before you play them and unless you have terabytes upon terabytes of HD space is not practical to have your entires game colecction installed at the same time, far less confort unless you have especialiced peripherals to connect and play from your couch on your tv (all of wich cost even more money) also the platform is ridden whit piracy wich discourages developers to make more games for it, or to do proper ports.

So neither one is perfect, BOTH sides have bullet proof arguments, is a dead end discussion, you can play PCs or consoles or both (wich i higly recommend, far to much great games to miss out just because of snob ism on one side, or laziness on the other side, sure 700-1000 dollars for a fully fledged gaming PC that you can hook to your home theater whit some quality wireless peripherals, seems a bit steep but is a 5 year investment and one that most likely brings you a lot of joy whit beautiful deep highly customizable experiences that only high end PC can bring you (and youll get to join the glorious PC gaming master race for bragging rights), on the other side just 200 bucks for a console and you get to play a lot of REALLY good fun games, play whit your friends and family, sure graphics suck but fun is more important than graphics. (and maybe look like a complete idiot playing kinect or wii, just make sure your drunk when yo do it, an someone please, PLEASE upload it to youtube)
 

enriquetnt

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5ilver said:
I wouldn't worry about it. Consoles are on their deathbed anyway. Not that they were alive to begin with...
They said the same thing at the end of EVERY console cicle for the last 30 years so i wouldn't hold my breath, also didnt they say the SAME thing about PC gaming at the start of every console cycle... hmmmm maybe there is a trend here?
 

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i switched from consol gaming to PC gaming, why you ask? well because PC is the master race and the corporations who bring out consols are getting more retarded by the day. the only consol i will buy will be the ouya
 

SoulSalmon

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CrunkParty said:
SoulSalmon said:
If only there was some way for you to find out... it would be really great if forums let you read what people said wouldn't it?
That's twice in one day some Escapist's condescending reply has been entirely dependent on intentionally ignoring important aspects of the original comment. Seriously, guys? Are you that hard up?
Well I'm terribly sorry for making a joke, and especially sorry for this part:

CrunkParty said:
I'm so tempted to read the entire thread. Someone please please please talk me into it.
SoulSalmon said:
To save you the trouble though, it's mostly just people arguing the same tired arguments repeatedly :/
Because that was obviously in no way trying to help by saving you some time.
Oh wait...