Sounds like you just didn't play some very good mods. Sure, that stuff was there and helped the overall experience a little bit, but there were ones that had storylines just as long as any of the guilds, and I played with a few that actually altered the layouts of major cities to add in extra buildings to go along with it. Kinda screwed up the pathfinding on existing NPCs, but that wasn't exactly stellar to begin with.Atmos Duality said:
Lets all complain about how Skyrim sucks and how oblivion is beter
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Most of the storylines I did try were very poorly written, rushed, or even glitchy to the point where it broke the game (read: Crash. It's the one thing Oblivion is guaranteed to do). The only memorable story-mod from the TES community that springs to mind is about a lunatic fisherman (and I think that was actually Morrowind; not Oblivion).KalosCast said:
I'm surprised I havn't ever seen anything ever mentioned about this but the only thing that truley pissed me off and was immersia breaking was the lack of a god damn diagonal walking animation in morrowind/ oblivion/ fallout 3/ new vegas. I really do hope they sort this out.
(slow reply I know)GonzoGamer said:
I got Fallout New vegas, and I love it, but I played oblivion and hated it.
Every time a beggars voice went from near insane, to upper class snob it sucked me right out of the experiences ( and the combat was horrible too).
Yea, those were the two things I hated most about Oblivion too.Drejer43 said:
However Fallout New Vegas did a much better job of sucking....me out of the experience every time it froze up completely or crashed to the xmb.
I much prefer dealing with weird audio glitches than complete and utter crashing which happened every time I played it.
There are plenty of series with installments that have their own fanboys, TES is one but the biggest offender is probably final fantasy. You cannot like ff6 without hating 7, you cannot like ff7 without hating 8, and you cannot like anything before ff5 without hating everything after ff5 with the exception of ff9.Dexter111 said:
TES is also really bad, the single worst example i've seen was when a daggerfall fanboy complained that Bathesda had no ambition because oblivion was not as big as daggerfall. And i'm sorry but saying that oblivion was not ambitious is not a legitimate complaint.
Holy crap, this is like the thread that won't die.
I don't think Oblivion was ambitious as they didn't change or improve on much of anything. The leveling system had the same flaws as its predecessor. The story actually got worse to be more "streamlined" despite the fact it wasn't multiplayer enabled. The terrain was copy/pasted instead of hand crafted. The dialogue was improved but used a number of voice actors that at best can be considered half-assed. Combat was streamlined to be as entertaining as combat on minecraft. (X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X etc. is not good combat mechanics.) Auto-leveling had apparent bugs with it that should have been caught on the drawing board by anyone who knows even a little about game balancing.
There is a long list as to why I would say that Oblivion was not ambitious. I think that Skyrim sounds ambitious but all game developers promote their game as ambitious. We will see when it comes out how ambitious it was. In alot of cases they are legally bound to through contracts. This is a overlap with the marketing department of the publisher. I am not saying the developers didn't have any ambition. I am saying that it was not an ambitious project.
I like FF6, 7, and 8. Liked them all the moment I played them. I think alot of people were just crying about 8 not having materia. I never heard of anyone not like 7 when it came out other than people who just didn't like JRPGs.Kashif Omer said:
I don't think Oblivion was ambitious as they didn't change or improve on much of anything. The leveling system had the same flaws as its predecessor. The story actually got worse to be more "streamlined" despite the fact it wasn't multiplayer enabled. The terrain was copy/pasted instead of hand crafted. The dialogue was improved but used a number of voice actors that at best can be considered half-assed. Combat was streamlined to be as entertaining as combat on minecraft. (X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X etc. is not good combat mechanics.) Auto-leveling had apparent bugs with it that should have been caught on the drawing board by anyone who knows even a little about game balancing.
There is a long list as to why I would say that Oblivion was not ambitious. I think that Skyrim sounds ambitious but all game developers promote their game as ambitious. We will see when it comes out how ambitious it was. In alot of cases they are legally bound to through contracts. This is a overlap with the marketing department of the publisher. I am not saying the developers didn't have any ambition. I am saying that it was not an ambitious project.
From what I've seen and heard so far, it seems that Bethesda is taking the series to a direction I hoped they would. I only wish that the game has the "feel" I imagine. Oh [insert deity here], please make it so!