SpectacularWebHead said:
Dude, Cod is marketed at guys. Because it is marketed SOLELY at guys, not in any way, shape or form at girl gamers, you can assume there's gonna be a lot more sexism than it's nearest competitor, Which is I think Halo... Not sure about sales, but assuming it is halo, Whilst the main character is a dude, you at least have some interesting female characters in it, and, You get a helluva a lot more girls playing halo than cod WITHOUT any abuse. As for providing you proof, I can't because I don't work in the gaming industry, and therefore have no kind of access to statistics. All I can tell you is the observation of Cod's community, coupled with it's marketing techniques in relation to other shooters, so yes, in a way, misogynist do get special treatment, because nothing is done about them, because people like you just say "Well, that's the internet for ya". Also, please tell me how you can make a sexist game mechanic, because you're just being silly now. The CoD community are largely up there with 4chan in levels of offensiveness. Just saying "Welcome to the internet" Doesn't make it okay.
Note please that I never said that the entire internet's behavior didn't excuse those from Cod's; but rather that CoD is not some specific nest of misogyny that many seem to think it is. Also, don't try and paint me as a villian for pointing this out. When complaining actually solves anything then you can say that I'm part of the problem. Am I saying misogyny is not bad? Of course not. But until the attitude of the internet itself changes, or they make a way to actually punish those among us who stain all of our reputations, then there isn't much we can do. I submit complaints every time I hear people spout misogynistic bullcrap, and so does everyone in my clan. I don't know what good it does, but I damn well try. Then there is the matter of marketing. A lot of it depends opon your point of view. Does having action make it male directed? If so then every game out this year has had male-centric adverts. That doesn't seem to stop girls from playing it. 3 of the 7 girls on my friends list are people I met on CoD; The other four I know in real life. Girls play Halo without abuse? Then why would the lead designer of Halo make a specific statement about being tougher on it if there was less of/no problem.(Which Microsoft rebuked rather promptly) Interesting female characters? Hardly. Kat and whatever the commander girl from 3 was were just stamped out action girl stereotypes. And this may seem like a cheap shot but Cortana is just SGT. Foley with a blue rack.
Well no, because you get updates, Backstory and a metric-shit ton of other stuff that makes TF2 more interesting. If you're playing on console, fair enough, they have never updated it and never will, but there's more intrigue to TF2 than cod. Fuck, just the use of bright colours as opposed to grey, brown and very rarely, blue is enough to keep you interested.
Funnily enough I actually got into CoD because it was a refreshing change from TF2 and ET: Quake Wars. I play TF2 on the computer, always have and always will. Some of the updates do make the game more interesting, but some have made it more insipid. Need I even bring up hats? Oh, and red and blue become just as dull as grey and brown when they are all you see.
I've explained that already. As CoD is what everyone tries to be, we only get the same shitty brown shooter over and over.
I'm going to single out this statement because it proves you completely ignored what I said. You can't blame CoD for the others who imitate it. If CoD were to strike out and try something completely new on the MP shooter market (for the sake of this hypothetical stament let's just say it was a huge success), then what would stop companies fromm simply parroting that? It's exactly what happened with CoD 1 (or MoH, but that's a whole 'nother debate), and later with Halo, God of War, Gears of War, Uncharted (or Tomb Raider), and last but not least CoD 4. Purging the trend jumping shitheads from the gaming industry as a whole would be the only way to solve that problem. If a company has nothing to do with CoD then only the company itself to blame for making a rip-off.
If CoD was willing to try something new and interesting, it would likely spur all the other companies copying it into doing something different and interesting. And, as you have proved, taking a risk wouldn't hurt their sales in the slightest, because so many people would buy it just because "It's CoD Braaah!" It's not the fault of other developers, becaus ethey are just following your oh so grand marketing strategy, thus leading us into this tidal wave of crap shooters, which is started at it's root, by CoD, the game your game could smell like.
The rest of the statement is not only redundant and asinine, but hypocritical. If you say that you can't fault other companies for simply following basic business strategy, then how can you blame CoD/Activision? If no one else is willing to try a new idea, how can they be seen as any better than Activision? Risk is risk, no matter how large or small the company. For every bold new indie game that takes the world by storm, there are ten that fade into obscurity. It's easy to say that taking risk is better than safe profit, but black and white turns to grey when people's jobs are on the line. And again don't try and paint me as a villian for pointing out the obvious. The irony of this is that the amount of ripoffs coming into play this year is limited to 1 that I can name offhand (that Warfighter abomination). So even discussing this is becoming quickly irrelevant.
I get off calling you sheepish, because in your paragraph, you express your sheep like mentality because you know that very little is added to CoD each year, yet you still spend 60 bucks on what you know is 2 new gametypes and 10 new maps. You buy what you yourself have even said is basically the same game every year because you Enjoy it, but what you don't seem to realise is, you could stick with whichever one came out THIS year instead of wasting $60 on changes that are covered in DLC for most other games. THAT is why I view your mentality as sheep-like. You're following the crowd despite knowing it's unneccesary.
HAHA amazingly pretentious, I love it. Let me make this clear, the reason I buy every CoD is not some kind of willing denial or ignorance. MW2 is in no way the exact same game to MW3, but nerding out over the subtler mechanics isn't a good way to open my post so I omitted it. The basic premise of CoD remains in each installment, but the same can be said of Half-Life. MW3 brought in strike packages, | | mechanics and refined netcode. Along with the standard additions of new| |guns, maps, gamemodes, perks, and equipment. Not adding new stuff as DLC | |rid of people using the OP new weapons in BF3. (Because the DLC update is| |prevent player division) I play each CoD because I'm not a sheep ironically| |know if the changes will suit my tastes unless I play with them; I trust| |but my own. If I don't like the changes then I sell it back to Gamesto| |the purchase price. And I consider knowing the game myself to| |. The CoD I| | MW2. Why don't I just keep playing it? For the sam| |I only play TF2 a onc| |week to indulge in the updates, because of | |mastered every gun in MW2| |mastered every class in TF2 (though | |quantifiable). I still enjoy| |and a new CoD offers new opprotunities. Also ironic is if I followed the crowd I would talk exactly like you. There's a wonderful little hivemind here on the Escapist that I rather like poking to watch the hot air sputter out. "Yahtzee doesn't like the Witcher 2? He must be stupid!" "Someone doesn't like the popular indie game of the moment? They must be a CoD/BF fanboy!" "Someone likes Dragon Age 2? They must be an EA whore!" "If you don't share my opinion you are mentally inferior!". I made this thread because I was sick of such rhetoric but I knew it would remain; no matter how many valid points I threw at it. Though again it seems to be dying down, I hope it stays that way.
