Letting children die horribly seems to be the new 'hook'. (Now includes video, due to popular demand

[Akiada]

It's not about hating children, it's about being realistic. Sometimes kids die on-screen in books, movies, etc. too! Do they hate children? Fuck no, it's part of the story. It happens. Not everyone gets a happy ending, not everyone gets to grow up to be a happy, well-adjusted adult.

Some stories are dark, some stories about the people who didn't make it. They're stories that you're supposed to remember when you're in the shoes of a character who does get to make it - those darker stories remind you that the horrible dead things you're putting down used to be people.

It's horror. It's supposed to make you uncomfortable. Horror is not a genre that is liked for putting people in their happy place. It is liked for dragging them, kicking and screaming, out of their comfort zone.

 

[Bloodstain]

Well, adults dying has become common in movies and games. A few decades ago, everyone would be shocked, whereas nowadays everyone yawns. So you need something fresh and new to shock the audience. The death of children is relatively unexplored area.

That's my theory, at least.

 

[Siege_TF]

If Spielberg can make tens of millions of dollars putting children in jepordy that they ALWAYS survive then the video game industry can do the same, except with the little buggers dying messily.

 

[C95J]

Wow, I can't believe I had never heard of this game before I watched this trailer, and after reading up on it, it looks to be a definite buy for me!

If they do it right of course, I love the concept of it and the sandbox style it's supposed to be like.

 

[Sun Flash]

Also about Nintendo, they don't use this method because they use the same method of relying to sell games for the past ten years: Mario and more Mario...

Oh Come on! You're just generalizing now! Nintendo have got lots of fresh franchises like:
Brain Training...
Pokémon...
Kirby ...
[sub]Metroid... [sub]
Zelda...
[sub]...and that Princess Peach spin off they did.[/sub][/sub][/sub]


OT:I dunno, it makes sense. In the Real World, there are kids, and if a zombie apocalypse occured, chances are they'd be the first to fall to gruesome ends. Not gonna hate on it for being realistic.

As a sidenote, the zombie girl in the ad acts no different to how my little sister does around me. That's just like a normal vacation. I mean, I haven't thrown her out a window yet...

I should note that I think that the trailer is awesome and shall most likely be buying this game when it comes out.

 

[Stickwell]

I don't enjoy killing the children, I enjoy that its an option and that it takes only 2-3 times before everyone... and I mean EVERYONE wants to kill you.

 

[Kopikatsu]

Also about Nintendo, they don't use this method because they use the same method of relying to sell games for the past ten years: Mario and more Mario...

Oh Come on! You're just generalizing now! Nintendo have got lots of fresh franchises like:
Brain Training...
Pokémon...
Kirby ...
[sub]Metroid... [sub]
Zelda...
[sub]...and that Princess Peach spin off they did.[/sub][/sub][/sub]


OT:I dunno, it makes sense. In the Real World, there are kids, and if a zombie apocalypse occured, chances are they'd be the first to fall to gruesome ends. Not gonna hate on it for being realistic.

As a sidenote, the zombie girl in the ad acts no different to how my little sister does around me. That's just like a normal vacation. I mean, I haven't thrown her out a window yet...

I should note that I think that the trailer is awesome and shall most likely be buying this game when it comes out.

Jumping onto your back and trying to remove your jugular vein with her teeth is how your little sister normally acts?

Sir, I believe you have a zombie infestation. That, or vampires. The non-sparkling kind.

 

[Sun Flash]

Jumping onto your back and trying to remove your jugular vein with her teeth is how your little sister normally acts?

Sir, I believe you have a zombie infestation. That, or vampires. The non-sparkling kind.

So... wait. that's not how families show affection?

I guess I should stop swearing at my rabbit then.

 

[Candidus]

Emotional reasons? Yes.

Rational? No.

* North Korean invasion of America.

* American protagonist.

* Foes will be north korean invaders, rather than aliens, because north koreans are not aliens- even though Kim Jong Il (sp?) kind of looks like one.

Read the bullets carefully. This is not an emotional pattern of thought, it's a logical one. You cannot represent a specific group of people by NOT representing them. In the above scenario, it makes perfect logical sense for your enemies to be North Korean conscripts, collaborators and vehicles. It makes no sense, by comparison, for your enemies to be elephants or wet sponges. It's reason at work there, very basic and very sound.

Your argument is either trollery, or it's like those mental blocks you get where you temporarily can't do a basic mathematical sum. I get those sometimes. =\

 

[Kopikatsu]

Jumping onto your back and trying to remove your jugular vein with her teeth is how your little sister normally acts?

Sir, I believe you have a zombie infestation. That, or vampires. The non-sparkling kind.

So... wait. that's not how families show affection?

I guess I should stop swearing at my rabbit then.

You have a zombie/vampire nazi Wabbit? Jesus, man. That thing'll be harder to shoot than a Jack Rabbit roastin' on an open black fire grill in the middle of JEW-LIE. WOOOOOOOO-IE!

Translating my own nonsense: Zombie Rabbits would be retardedly difficult to kill, especially with a gun. Much more than a child zombie, anyway.

It's in a cage now, right? You know what you must do.
...
...Feed your little sister to it!

 

[Treblaine]

Hmm, didn't the Dawn of The Dead remake start with a little-girl zombie? hell she even featured on the poster art in full zombie mode, that opening scene was released in its entirety to promote the film.

Hypocrisy much?

This is what is holding back Video games as an art form, because so many of our own hold our medium to a much lower standard, as if somehow it's OK for film to approach subject matters such as child death/zombification but all of a sudden it's "too far" if a game does the same thing.

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P.S. Captcha: ssGen Mood => SS General Mood?
WTF?

 

[McMarbles]

What's the point? They never have good stuff.

 

[Tanner The Monotone]

This is the first time that something making me fell dipressed is a good thing!

 

[Rhinzual26]

Well, adults dying has become common in movies and games. A few decades ago, everyone would be shocked, whereas nowadays everyone yawns. So you need something fresh and new to shock the audience. The death of children is relatively unexplored area.

That's my theory, at least.

The reason some find it shocking today is that prior to this stuff, it was very rare for children to die. Look at Friday the 13th and later installments? Aside from Jason as a kid, no Cute Kid Adorable died. Look at The Blob remake of 1984, a number of people died, including at least 1 kid in a rather graphic but brief manner. AvP Requiem, questionable quality but the Predalien was more than willing to kill pregnant women/unborn children to... lay chestbursters inside, whatever.

To have a monster killing children like it would an adult is a way to show the audience just how monstrous or inhuman the things really are from our perspective. If they leave children alone, then it shows a degree of compassion or such to them, but by making them treat every human the same, it turns them from somewhat dimly sympathetic, into monsters that you would otherwise genuinely be afraid of. By seeing every human and even animal as a post/easy kill/source of food, it says, "The creatures are not human, never treat them as such, they will kill you like they would everyone else if you did."

That's the vibe I get anyway.

 

[Bloodstain]

snip

"The death of children is relatively unexplored area."
"The reason some find it shocking today is that prior to this stuff, it was very rare for children to die."

I understand we agree?

 

[Ninjaghostdog]

I guess its because child mortality is so much more gripping. No seriously like, people seem to get way more work up when child death is in there.