Logic failures in video games.

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DRTJR

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A Unskilled 12-17 year old is better to send that an army of trained professionals
 

moretimethansense

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The order of the one true way in suikoden tierkis

For those that haven't played(no major spoilers)
They are an Evil brainwashing cult that (almost) makes Scientology look sane
they believe that everything that happens is preordained and unchangeable so you should just accept destiny and content with your lot in life.

And they follow this belief of not trying to change one's fate by conquering anyone who doesn't follow the one true path brainwashing them telling their followers since everything is preordained that you must do whatever they tell you, should you suddenly fall sick no doctor will help you since "it wouldn't matter destiny decides if you live or die" and anyone who disagrees or thinks independently is sent away for "re-education".

the logical fallacies here are so numerous and huge that listing them here would take weeks and yet people believe this so wholeheartedly they will send their children away for "re-education" at the first sign of a dissenting thought

however the biggest failure of logic is the heroes never call anyone out on the obvious and MASSIVE flaws in this but instead continually say (paraphrasing)"I don't believe in destiny" telling someone that you disagree with them isn't going to change their minds but pointing out the flaws in their argument just might,
in fact give anyone with even the slightest idea what the definition of fate is 10 minutes of talking in public and the entire fucking cult would just collapse under its own stupidity.

Seriously I know it's meant to be a cult of evil and I'm 99.999% sure that they are only using this crap to control the populace but it is so stupid that I have a tremendously hard time imagining This crap fooling enough people long enough for them to gain the power to drag dissenters off the street for re-education for thinking aloud about wanting to be a fisherman instead of a soldier.

sorry for the long winded post but I just got this game for christmas and it's still fresh in my mind and also sorry for any spelling, grammer, punctuation mistakes or if It's just hard to understand what I'm getting at it is quite late and I am quite tired
 

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SikOseph said:
Logic fail? Having to go around hunting for keys when I'm carrying a shotgun/grenade launcher that will definitely blow that piece of crap door off its hinges.
All resound a ringing "Amen."
 

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How does Moira Brown survive the explosion? I feel cheated of a massive victory. She was out scavving near by, presumably in the damn blast radius!

But it's OK since Mr. Minigun is always pleased to make new friends..
 

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DiscoveryOne said:
What barrels have you seen around? And maybe you should be changing professions. Because I'm pretty sure barrels like those in Half Life 2 and other shooters are a bit of an exaggeration... gas tanks etc don't explode when shot- or even the ol' cigarette in the gas trail doesn't work. Neither is hot enough.
Most where green and white marked, with a red 'flammable' sign. Nothing to be scared over, isn't like they explode just by looking at them and it is very unlikely someone is going to be blasting around a lot of lead in a factory. The locations where they where stored and used one couldn't smoke, but we had far worse things to worry about then a flammable liquid... some places the air itself would burst into flame if you lit a match, as we used a dry fuel for the boilers that burned suspended in air.

These chemicals have a range of applications, from lubricants and solvents right through to ingredients used in a wide range of products. Not all flammable liquids are high explosives or used to fuel some sort of combustion engine. Hell, I worked in a SUGAR mill, just to show you how mundane a factory might be but still will contain such chemicals, and no we didn't add the flammable liquids to the sugar... we used heavy corrosives like caustic. Oh if you only knew some of the things I saw go on in to the sugar you would never eat it again.

These are not rare things, these barrels, but they are not just left laying around either. They defiantly don't just get pile and littered all over the place waiting for someone to shoot them... putting aside the fact a bullet isn't enough to set off a barrel. Bad guys do seem to have a fascination with stacking barrels right near the bulk of their troops and look surprised when one guy sets their whole army on fire....
 

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TheNamlessGuy said:
Getting a arrow between the eyes in Oblivion doesn't kill you.

It only takes about 1% of your health...
You're not kidding. Once I had a levelling mod turned on, and a level 2000-or-something bandit charged me with a battleaxe. I had a full quiver of arrows and an iron bow so I just took refuge on a rock that he was too stupid to climb and kept shooting him. After about half an hour his head looked like a pincushion and he'd lost about fifteen percent health... that was when I decided there might be flaws to the levelling mod business.
 

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magnus gallant said:
the biggest one for me is when a headshot doesnt insta kill, or when you have to unload an entire clip on guys to kill them (it increases the difficulty slightly.....not that games are much of a challange anymore anyway).

its really just awful when they do that, totally unessecary, there are plenty of better ways to increase game length...
I'll add to that... any game in which the bad guys take several shots to the legs / arms and just keep on coming instead of rolling on the ground screaming "MY LIMBS! MY LIMBS! OH THE INFERNAL AGONY!" over and over again.

Although I'm guessing this is one of those "realism sacrificed in the name of not completely wrecking the game" kinda situations.
 

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Fantasy RPGs:

You kill a boar, it is carrying a magical sword and some money o_O

You get attacked by a giant carrying an axe bigger than you and take maybe 10% damage..... the thing should cleave you in twain on the first hit!

Why does everyone trust that you killed what you said you would? I want to be able to lie to them about it.
 

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In KOTOR I play dark side so I have the pale evil looking face and red lightsaber I go to the jedi enclave in Dantooine. How come nobody can tell I'm evil?
 

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Are we just making fun of logic failures or arguing that there's supposed to be logic in games? Logic would make games like the GTA series pretty short and boring. Oh, and in CoD4 Cpt. Price wouldn't make it to a sequel, the dork stands right in front of enemies and takes whole clips to the face if you advance too fast, heh heh...
 

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derelict said:
Are we just making fun of logic failures or arguing that there's supposed to be logic in games? Logic would make games like the GTA series pretty short and boring. Oh, and in CoD4 Cpt. Price wouldn't make it to a sequel, the dork stands right in front of enemies and takes whole clips to the face if you advance too fast, heh heh...
We're making fun of blatant logic failures.
 

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Is Samus Aran had a brain she would make back up copies of her weapons, so that wau when she looses them in the next game she has spares.

Or she could just not respond to a distress call immediately, because its the times that she rushes in, head first, that she looses equipment.
 

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The most annoying one for me is in games like Modern Warfare 2 or Rainbow Six Vegas 2 where you're faced with characters wearing full-body threat level IV tactical armor but can still somehow be put down by a few 9mm handgun rounds hitting his vest, presumably holding trauma plates; or conversely, a "Juggernaut" that can withstand a half-dozen headshots from .50 or .408 anti-materiel rifles, or direct priming impacts from M203 grenade launchers, or point-blank Claymore detonations. And the fact that I literally cannot engage a target directly across the street with a combat shotgun (EVERYONE gets this one wrong), or that a handgun cannot be carried along with a secondary slung weapon, since they obviously aren't carried in the same place, and I can see a drop-rig on my character model.
 

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orangebandguy said:
How does Moira Brown survive the explosion? I feel cheated of a massive victory. She was out scavving near by, presumably in the damn blast radius!

But it's OK since Mr. Minigun is always pleased to make new friends..
she was researching for the wasteland survival guide.
 

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DiscoveryOne said:
Jinx_Dragon said:
DiscoveryOne said:
Explosive Barrels: why they exist and more importantly why they're like hanging out at the Malt Shop for bad guys...
Barrels like that exist, seen plenty myself, but the second part is spot on... when these barrels are stored it is in buildings designed to take the blast of one exploding. Never are they just left laying around, and indeed heads would roll if they where just piled out in the streets or other places where people would die if a smoker flicked a cig the wrong way.
Durp Durp Durp, a lit cigarette cant light a flammable gas even though it's embering and actually quite hot

What barrels have you seen around? And maybe you should be changing professions. Because I'm pretty sure barrels like those in Half Life 2 and other shooters are a bit of an exaggeration... gas tanks etc don't explode when shot- or even the ol' cigarette in the gas trail doesn't work. Neither is hot enough.