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asinann

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DVSAurion said:
I think school days should be 6-7 hours long and should start around 9 am. Here in Finland it's pretty much that way, except that school mostly begins at 8, which is a bad thing, because it makes everyone in the building unable to work for a few hours. Don't know how long your days are over where you live, but that's just my idea of an ideal school day.

The school year could be around the year, as long as there are a breaks for a couple every now and then. We have a ten week long summmer holiday and that is almost a bit too long. Having an almost continuous year would probably help you keep focused on subjects, a break too long might actually make you forget what you've learnt, making revision necessary to waste good learning time.
The word isn't might, the word you were looking for is does.
Studies have shown that after 3 weeks you start to forget information, meaning the first month of school is a reteaching of last years materials.

Some of the local schools do "year round" schooling, they take a month off in December instead of 2 weeks, and 4 weeks in summer instead of 10. They get the rest of their summer break spread out through the year and those schools seem to score better on tests than the rest of the district. Those schools are in the worst neighborhoods in town meaning that it isn't entirely funding that kills schools in poor neighborhoods, it's also teaching styles.

Parents in the US hate year round schools though, because they don't want to have to find people to watch their kids. Schools in the US really aren't much more than government funded daycare centers for kids over 6.

letsnoobtehpwns said:
7 hours of torture for 180 days a year is enough.
They still only attend 180 days a year, they just don't have a stupidly long break once a year.

I'm all for adding a day to the school week myself, but the teachers' unions are too powerful to allow it.

And for all you people freaking out over "better education" schools don't pay enough to teachers to get quality educators into schools. Maybe you should try passing a levy or two instead of complaining about taxes being too high and refuse to pay a few dollars a year to buy books written some time after world war two (my high school history book stopped in the middle of the Vietnam war when I attended in 1996.) Our best and brightest won't teach because you can make as much and in many cases more working in a mill without a degree and continuing educational requirements. Add in the fear that some day a kid might get mad at you for giving him an "F" on a test because he's a moron and go to the police saying you touched him in a dirty spot ruining your career (and it IS over if a kid says it, true or not.)
Most kids don't pay attention in school towards the end of the year because they're bored and the teachers for the most part don't care about anything other than getting standardized test scores up because that's the measure of teaching ability in the US now.

The entire educational system needs an overhaul in the US but parents and politicians won't pony up the cash. Hell, when cuts need to be made in the budgets, the FIRST thing cut is education when it should be the last.

And you need to stop worrying about stressing the kids out, they're gonna have to start working some day, and it's not like you get 10 weeks of vacation in any line of work I've ever heard of (teachers don't even really get it off, they have to go back to school and take some completely unrelated course because they have to have "well rounded" educations to keep their jobs.)
 

Sir Ollie

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Nimbus said:
Ollie596 said:
Maybe not a whole year, but I think they should extend it in the UK most schools get 6 weeks off in the summer. I always thought that is far too long.
6 weeks? Fuck! That's short! What hours do you have when you do have school?
Depending on schools but mine was 6 and a half hours a day ahh good old school days.
 

sam13lfc

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They should both be shorter, but it doesn't matter to me now, I don't go to school any more x3
 

tomtom94

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I get 9 weeks off school (private school ftw) but there are two problems:
One, I am terrible at appreciating what I have and I am already bored.
Two, I will get back to school and remember NOTHING.

I think that several shorter terms with several shorter holidays is the answer, personally. But of course, we all have to do exams so that the government can test the teachers and therefore that wouldn't work. ¬_¬
 

DeathsAmbassador

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Making a longer school year wouldn't do anything except cause more stress. They could already be teaching what they teach in one day in about 3 hours if they had to. I think they should just work on improving the education instead of trying to make kids sit in a classroom for a the whole year.
 

asinann

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DeadlyGlitch said:
are you all batshit knockers?!?!?! these are kids we are talking about, summer vacation is the only thing keeping them going in the harsh individuality crushing school system! there are some things in life you wont learn in school but if there entire childhood is consumed in school they will be more screwed up then kim jong il hypnotized to do the hula every time someone says "no"
Because that's exactly what happens to kids throughout the rest of the world.

I'm also not entirely convinced that kids need to express their individuality, our schools worked fine back before kids were allowed to have individuality. Or independent thoughts and opinions. And we could still beat them when they needed it.

DeathsAmbassador said:
Making a longer school year wouldn't do anything except cause more stress. They could already be teaching what they teach in one day in about 3 hours if they had to. I think they should just work on improving the education instead of trying to make kids sit in a classroom for a the whole year.
They could if they didn't have to make sure every moron in class at least gets the basics of what was being taught. As it is, thanks to the no child left behind act, even the special kids have to be able to pass those tests. That means inclusion. Inclusion means those special kids have to be put in normal classes to be taught and retaught at the expense and to the detriment of the other students that are capable of understanding the materials. That's why teachers spend two weeks telling you the same thing over and over and over ad nauseum. That's why you have to take english every year and get taught every year what nouns and verbs are. It's not a teachers' idea, they're just as tired of doing it as the kids are of hearing it. Those things come down from on high, from a "C" average student that wouldn't have gotten into a community college if his daddy didn't have a shit ton of money.
 

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Honestly I can't comment, simply because I go to a private school. They don't abide to the government's term and day times, so it's pretty fucked up. For instance, I've been off school for 3 weeks already and the rest of my family has only just finished. And I had a 3 week easter holiday, only 1 week of which were spent with my family and my friends from my other school.
 

Slayer_2

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Fuck no, summer is too short already. Besides, more time spent at school does NOT equal smarter kids. That is determined by the attitudes exhibited by teachers and students.
 

MagicShroom

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Hell yeah longer school year means the less aggravation from little kids, besides they'll get use to it.
 

jat112786

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Being kept longer in a failing school system, Idiots I say. It really won't change a thing.
It would only work if they really teaching students.
 

TheDanimal

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The infamous SCAMola said:
Fuck no. Y'all should adopt the Italian style of school years.

From the 15th of September to the 6th of June, from 8:20 in the morning to 12:20 in the afternoon with three months holidays in the summer.

Aah, Viva Life!
Agree completely. Also, it's not school I have a problem with, it's homework, I know its a good way to get you to remember information, but the stress and time-consumption it creates does more harm than good in my opinion. Then again maybe it's because I go to school, when I finish it I might look at it differently.
 

Triforceformer

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bodyklok said:
cleverlymadeup said:
i think they should have better education rather than longer school years.
Basically this. If anyone thinks people will learn more just because they've been keep in longer they seriously underestimate teenagers ability to ignore their teachers.
Almost my entire 8th Grade class would be proof of that. Hate to imagine High School having to deal with us.