What joint? Anonymous is hardly a group, so there can be no infighting when there is no website/IRC/whatever.TheComedown said:Anon infighting nice. Won't be long before the whole joint goes up in flames.
Jesus, are people still thinking that Anon is behind this? Anon only does DDoS (they use LOIC) and raid websites by spamming the comments section or whatever. This required actual hacking skills and professionalism. Leaving fake traces is just run-of-the-mill hacking shit, nothing concrete and is only there to mislead the investigators.bleachigo10 said:Ah, the sweet taste of retribution. Let this be a lesson to Anonymous that you can hack into as many corporations as you want but you do not mess with a mans video games.
Anonops is not their website, do you know how "operations" start? someone makes a picture with details of a raid (then posts the picture on /b/) and then if enough people fire up the Low-orbital ion-cannon they DDoS the shit out of some website.Ubermetalhed said:Actually they do.
Anonymous with a capital is a name for their group. A group which has a form of website and hence base of operations, Anonops. A group which also makes announcements on behalf of their members.
They are not anonymous in the definition sense of the word by any means.
Yeah, their group name is "Anonymous", it has nothing to do with who they are, infact even when Anonymous was still organized on /b/ the people who took part usually posted with names and tripcodes. Also they have a Facebook group, the sheer irony of it all is hilarious.Ubermetalhed said:Actually they do.Volkov said:Everyone that thinks of the anonymous as an organization that has a website, a base, etc., doesn't know what they are talking about.
Anonymous with a capital is a name for their group. A group which has a form of website and hence base of operations, Anonops. A group which also makes announcements on behalf of their members.
They are not anonymous in the definition sense of the word by any means.
Sometimes some branches decide to do things which are noble, but they certainly don't speak for the whole of anonymous.MaxPowers666 said:Correction good sir they are about how to be the biggest asshole you can.zehydra said:Anonymous is about whatever the hell they feel like doing.
except that's not the only way they start. /b/ is no longer the strict home base for Anon, and I think it's clear now that Anon has grown to such size that we can consider AnonOps a seperate entity within a larger umbrella known as "Anonymous".Hyper-space said:What joint? Anonymous is hardly a group, so there can be no infighting when there is no website/IRC/whatever.TheComedown said:Anon infighting nice. Won't be long before the whole joint goes up in flames.
Jesus, are people still thinking that Anon is behind this? Anon only does DDoS (they use LOIC) and raid websites by spamming the comments section or whatever. This required actual hacking skills and professionalism. Leaving fake traces is just run-of-the-mill hacking shit, nothing concrete and is only there to mislead the investigators.bleachigo10 said:Ah, the sweet taste of retribution. Let this be a lesson to Anonymous that you can hack into as many corporations as you want but you do not mess with a mans video games.
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Anonops is not their website, do you know how "operations" start? someone makes a picture with details of a raid (then posts the picture on /b/) and then if enough people fire up the Low-orbital ion-cannon they DDoS the shit out of some website.Ubermetalhed said:Actually they do.
Anonymous with a capital is a name for their group. A group which has a form of website and hence base of operations, Anonops. A group which also makes announcements on behalf of their members.
They are not anonymous in the definition sense of the word by any means.
So there are no members or anything, ANYONE can call themselves Anonymous, meaning that its just a label for when script-kiddies decide that someone pissed them off.
This was taken from anonops.in (which seems to still be under their control).its big said:00:04 AM GMT (10th May 2011)
thinq_, unfortunally you have been trolled. Ryan clearly had no intention to do anything for Anonymous... EVER, he was only ever here to boost his own ego. There is no "leadership", Ryan seems to be mistaking "leadership" with people who actually get of their ass and do stuff (and not just treating other users with contempt). To add further to the point of "leadership", network staff have a hard enough time trying to keep the network functional and stable, let alone leading a PR campaign.
Ryan talks about how he wanted to show how insecure AnonOps was, and yet he was an oper (Network admin) for over 5 months. You would of thought he would have bolstered security if he considered it inadequate. He talks about the "incompetence" of other opers, but it would appear this is merely a distraction from his own shortfalls.
Moving onto the database of leaked IP's. Ryan had been a network administrator on AnonOps since december (going under the name of V), since that time he had achieved a level of trust. It's this trust he exploited. There was no wholesale lapse in security, or critical vulnerability. As with many things its just the human element coming into play. It would be no different from a disillusioned employee releasing the photocopies after the christmas party. Embarassing, yes - catastrophic, no. As seen in recent copywrong cases, an IP doesn't equal a person, in the same way a blurry photocopy of someones ass is unlikely to prove who they are.
Finally, AnonOps is hoping to get some basic functionality within the next 12 hours.
P.S: Also names from the original post are removed as they were only added to be some "proof" of authenticity (users may have done !staff and seen one or more of these names), as without a formalized blog/bulletin, there is was no easy was to make users aware of the seriousness of the message. Seeing as it's now established that news will be here for the time being, this is no longer necessary
P.P.S: Should *.anonops.in stop resolving then further news will be on anonops.li
14:03 PM GMT (9th May 2011)
Interesting news starting to circulate, and some great conspiracy theories, also some amusing quotes:
Firstly news:
Both the domains are now pointing at almost random addresses, so stick to the advice (don't use them), let the children play with their "POWAH", Its not like AnonOps is going to die because .net and .ru got taken, there are plenty more TLDs AnonOps (and our "friends") have control over (The mass squatting of late December is really going to come into its own... watch this space).
Currently we are predicting to get some semblance of network online on .in in the next 24-48 hours (thanks for your patience).
Fail reporting
Some "mainstream" media is calling this the "insider threat" which isn't really a fair representation, AnonOps doesn't have any corporate secrets, its run by the people for the people on a basis of mutual trust. Drama happens almost 24/7, occasionally drama overspills the network. The only reason this is more important than most drama is because AnonOps has let its users down.
Also we must remind the press AnonOps DOES NOT EQUAL Anonymous, saying they are one and/or the same thing in a blog/article just makes you look stupid. AnonOps is just a IRC network and a few other services that ANYONE can use, its not the only place Anonymous gather, and unlikely to be the *last* (see Streisand effect)
Conspiracy theories:
No, AnonOps hasn't been taken over by the feds or any other govt organisation, the message below is quite clear. You would know if they had taken it because they love to leave messages when they dun goofed(see something like www.tvshack.net)[Now some "lulz" can ensue when someone copypastes that onto the hijacked domains, and brix are shat (inb4 copypasta)]
Quote of the day: "And this is why we can't have nice things" - Anonymous
3:40 AM GMT (9th May 2011)
A small update: Some friends of AnonOps didn't like what had happened, so they... well go and look at http://www.anonops.net
[ Image link: http://i.imgur.com/YZnqb.png ]
Currently Ryan is "hitting" anything that moves (and even some things that are quite stationary), so their isn't any chance of IRC returning for a good few hours.
irc.anonops.net + irc.anonops.ru seem to be pointing at IRC servers that don't mask IPs, so we suggest you don't connect to them
Dear Users of the AnonOps Network,
We regret to inform you today that our network has been compromised by a former IRC-operator and fellow helper named "Ryan". He decided that he didn't like the leaderless command structure that AnonOps Network Admins use. So he organised a coup d'etat, with his "friends" at skidsr.us . Using the networks service bot "Zalgo" he scavenged the IP's and passwords of all the network servers (including the hub) and then systematically aimed denial of service attacks at them (which is why the network has been unstable for the past week). Unfortunately he has control of the domain names AnonOps.ru (and possibly AnonOps.net, we don't know at this stage) so we are unable to continue using them. We however still have control over AnonOps.in, and will continue to publish news there.
We would STRONGLY ADVISE all users to STAY AWAY from AnonOps.net and AnonOps.ru, and they should be considered COMPROMISED. Using or connecting to any service on those addresses may put your computer, and by extension your person, at risk.
We will continue to update you on this story, as well as on how we proceed with the future of Anonops.
We are profoundly sorry for this drama, and we can't give you a an estimate on when service will resume normally.
Alas, the IRC-network will probably remain down until we can sort this out.
We will try to keep you up to date you via our official channel (anonops.in).
Signed,
The AnonOps netstaff.
P.S: Further notices on AnonOps.net/ru will probably be posted to dispell this one, and any unavailablity of AnonOps.in will only prove this message is true. THIS IS NOT A JOKE, THIS ISN'T A LIE, THIS IS THE TRUTH AND WE ARE SORRY FOR THAT.
P.P.S: The person behind this attack is also involved in the "new" Encyclopedia Dramatica (encyclopediadramatica.ch) . If you have previously signed up as a user with a legitimate email-address/password, you should take caution and consider that your account and password *might* be compromised.
tl;dr:
AnonOps.ru/net got hijacked by a rogue admin, and no longer has anything to do with AnonOps, this domain should NOT be used if you wish to connect to the legitimate AnonOps network. Please use anonops.in instead. Sorry!
Hm. That Ryan kid is only 16, and they posted all of his information. Since he's a minor...I'm sure they just pissed off every law enforcement agency at the same time. (In the US, anyway)bibblles said:Time to vomit up some info from anonymous themselves:
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Holy amazing metaphors, Batman! That's the perfect way to describe Anon to anyone that's liked something they did.erbkaiser said:Just because a rabid dog bites someone you don't like, doesn't mean you should go to it and pet it. It's just as likely to bite you as well.
the quoted date of birth said he was 16 in 2008, so now he should be 19...Kopikatsu said:Hm. That Ryan kid is only 16, and they posted all of his information. Since he's a minor...I'm sure they just pissed off every law enforcement agency at the same time. (In the US, anyway)bibblles said:Time to vomit up some info from anonymous themselves:
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DOW has been working hard to create more jobs for americans. I do not believe that hacking them would result in anything good.The Cheshire said:Well, I don't know much about them, even if they have a manifesto of sorts, however, I do believe hacking certain companies is a good way of making a political point. I don't know about Sony, are these people the one who go stealing credit card numbers? Cause that does not seem very ethical.erbkaiser said:That's what they'd love to tell you. It's about hacking for lulz and pretending to be a huge threat to 'da evil', while actually it's 99.99% scriptkiddies and /b/-tards with a very small core of people who actually know what they're doing pointing them at targets and keeping their own hands mostly clean.The Cheshire said:I do not understand what this Anonymous is about. Is it about hacking big evil corporations and showing their breaches? Because I see nothing wrong with that.
Just because a rabid dog bites someone you don't like, doesn't mean you should go to it and pet it. It's just as likely to bite you as well.
However, if someone was to hack, for example, Halleyburton or DOW chemical and cause them severe financial damage, I'd be all for it. Justice from the masses.
Hm. Musta missed that. Still, the whole thing seems juvenile. "DURR HURR USELESS IP ADDRESSES!" "HERPA DERP YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION."bibblles said:the quoted date of birth said he was 16 in 2008, so now he should be 19...Kopikatsu said:Hm. That Ryan kid is only 16, and they posted all of his information. Since he's a minor...I'm sure they just pissed off every law enforcement agency at the same time. (In the US, anyway)bibblles said:Time to vomit up some info from anonymous themselves:
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http://i.imgur.com/YZnqb.pngKopikatsu said:Hm. Musta missed that. Still, the whole thing seems juvenile. "DURR HURR USELESS IP ADDRESSES!" "HERPA DERP YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION."bibblles said:the quoted date of birth said he was 16 in 2008, so now he should be 19...Kopikatsu said:Hm. That Ryan kid is only 16, and they posted all of his information. Since he's a minor...I'm sure they just pissed off every law enforcement agency at the same time. (In the US, anyway)bibblles said:Time to vomit up some info from anonymous themselves:
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